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post #21 of 136
Ah. I'm cold. My nearly 2yo hates fireworks (thus proving that she is in fact a changeling and the fairies are about to come and take her back, replacing her with a boy with eczema and allergies who doesn't sleep). She's just spent an hour in the carrier on my back with her arms round my neck shouting happy, happy happy, no,no,no, and NOT in a good way. I need to teach her more emotion words

We've been late for school every day this week. One part of me is seriously close to homeschooling, the other thinks I'll mess that up too
post #22 of 136
Hey..we are here, but someone is crying (ok, screeching, but whatever)...
post #23 of 136
Flapjack, for some reason I thought you did homeschool. I hope tomorrow is better day. Some days I think dd1's biggest reason to homeschool is that she doesn't like to get up early.

Dh is out with my two oldest and some friends while am at home on Saturday night with the others. I feel so overworked and alone. All I wanted was for the bath water to stay in the tub. Is that asking so much?

For Thanksgiving I try to make a special meal that is not just Turkey Day without the turkey. We plan up a special menu and go from there. One year we simply made everyone's favorites. It was such a hodge-podge.

As to Christmas, I was going to do a couple family gifts and stockings but then the big gifts added up to more that I thought so I am still thinking. We do tend to keep it small mostly because I hate the frenzy and deadline.
post #24 of 136
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Plus we are not really religous so how do I put more meaning into christmas without bring a whole lot of religion into it?
I hope I'm not being rude, but why celebrate a holiday centered around the birth of Christ if you don't believe in him? I'm Christian myself, and while other religions have holidays I think are cool, I don't celebrate them because they're not from our religious tradition.

As far as gifts with many, we're giving each kid three gifts at our house this year. Jesus got three, and so will they. (Of course, they'll be getting more from extended family)
post #25 of 136
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All I wanted was for the bath water to stay in the tub. Is that asking so much?
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somedays it is....
post #26 of 136
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As far as gifts with many, we're giving each kid three gifts at our house this year. Jesus got three, and so will they. (Of course, they'll be getting more from extended family)
I just might steal that idea! (If you don't mind!)
post #27 of 136
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I hope I'm not being rude, but why celebrate a holiday centered around the birth of Christ if you don't believe in him? I'm Christian myself, and while other religions have holidays I think are cool, I don't celebrate them because they're not from our religious tradition.
Santa isn't a christian thing so I imagine there are lots of people who celebrate for non-religious reasons. Plus, Jesus wasn't actually even born on christmas, that day was chosen because many important religious holidays were traditionally celebrated around that time so the church felt it would be easier to convert people.

We celebrate a culturally inspired version of xmas that has nothing to do with religion on xmas day. We infuse it with our practice of gratitude and our appreciation of the return of light, the passing of the solstice, and we show respect for ALL the religions that feel this time of year is special, significant, or holy. Tolerance is important to us.
post #28 of 136
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We celebrate a culturally inspired version of xmas that has nothing to do with religion on xmas day. We infuse it with our practice of gratitude and our appreciation of the return of light, the passing of the solstice, and we show respect for ALL the religions that feel this time of year is special, significant, or holy. Tolerance is important to us.
Yeah, pretty much that here too, but FRM said it better than me. It has to be said, though, this isn't the right week to discuss cultural imperialism and appropriation of religious holidays with me, the unbridled marketing scam that is Samhain, Celtic New Year still rankles. My favourite sabbat and once family holiday is, apparently, all about dressing up, getting sweets and scaring people. Yeah, right :

mommajb, the boys are in mainstream schooling, but I keep thinking about taking them out. We've always considered ourselves homeschoolers who do school as well, but I think we need to get off the fence. I'm not sure an inability to get out of the house on time in the morning is really the best reason, though.
post #29 of 136
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I admire you homeschoolers. dd1 can get a stubborn streak for us and does better with an outside teacher. We prefer that and then to supplement her learning on weekends and holidays.

Then again, we have a really good school system that I feel comfortable having her in.
post #30 of 136
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mommajb, the boys are in mainstream schooling, but I keep thinking about taking them out. We've always considered ourselves homeschoolers who do school as well, but I think we need to get off the fence. I'm not sure an inability to get out of the house on time in the morning is really the best reason, though.
I totally understand, while this may be the #1 reason my dd hs it is not ky main reason. It might be on the list though.

FreeRangeMama, thank you so much for answering the holiday question. I was way too tired to figure it out while nak last night.
post #31 of 136

Ugh, it happened

I had my first rude comment/discussion a few days ago in the store.

The "wow, you have your hands full" comments don't bother me a bit. I have three kids under 3.5 years old - something apparently quite unique judging by the amount of comments I get nearly every single time i leave the house alone with the kids.

However, a woman stopped dh and I in the store a few days ago and said "oh my gosh, you have to stop!" when she saw our kids. Then she went on to say that kids are expensive, and we need to be able to afford a good education for them (so dh told her they'd be getting a wondeful HOMESCHOOLED education, we aren't poutting out kids in the school system) and she asked if we were certified and if we had the know how to do so... ugh. SO then she went on again about the kids, and mentioned "there's a thing called a vasectomy" and I had about enough and stepped between them and said "look lady, I think the number of children a family has is a decision to be made between a husband and a wife, not a strainger in a store" and she acted like she was sorry and wanted to make up, then she said "we need to take control" and I said we leve our fertility in Gods hands... it's not something we feel is in our realm to control...

nice, huh?

I keep thinking I should have told her we're pregnant with #4, to blow her mind, (we're not), but that woudln't have been right. I feel bad about the way I handled it, I think that was the first time I had gotten so snarky with a stranger!
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"I BEG your pardon?" Loudly. Top of your voice loudly, so that everyone stops to look at her, with that special look on your face that you usually reserve for the days when your children have made mudcakes with dog poo, jelly worms and toys made in china. Some people are just scum.
post #33 of 136
Dang, she siad that and you only had 3 and you were with your DH? How absolutely crazy!
post #34 of 136
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Santa isn't a christian thing so I imagine there are lots of people who celebrate for non-religious reasons. Plus, Jesus wasn't actually even born on christmas, that day was chosen because many important religious holidays were traditionally celebrated around that time so the church felt it would be easier to convert people.

We celebrate a culturally inspired version of xmas that has nothing to do with religion on xmas day. We infuse it with our practice of gratitude and our appreciation of the return of light, the passing of the solstice, and we show respect for ALL the religions that feel this time of year is special, significant, or holy. Tolerance is important to us.
Thank You, you put that much better than I could. And I didn't mean to cause any debate about religion. I don't think that is what this thread is about. I was just giving some info about my family so that you could understand my question.
post #35 of 136
StromySar I would have burst out laughing just at the first thing she said and I can't imagine what dh would have done. Actually I do: he would have mentioned Little Nigel Lloyd Vincent Edgar who is his as yet unborn son. Nigel is such an old fashioned name here that everyone thinks he is joking. It s only half in jest but I think if we had a boy he is unlikely to be called Nigel

We don't get too much of that though because we are often out with only two or three not all four as ds1 spends a lot of time hanging out with his mates not hanging ot will all of us or durng the day I only have the girls with e than people are astounded to find that I have a 10 yo and a 14yo as well

Flapjack I never felt that school was the end of my boys learning and I get what you mean. In my case I feel like a home birther who births in hospital.

The 9am start was a real factor in Amelia staying at home and I'm not ashamed to admit it. She is a late riser and really not very pleasant comany before 10am. when she did go to Foundation it was a real palaver to get her out of bed and eat something before going out and we only live 5 mins walk away. If she had gone to school the first hour would have been useless.
post #36 of 136
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9am? That's early? Oh my. School starts at 8:20 here. Maybe that is a midwest thing to start around 8.

That lady went above and beyond what she should have commented on. I let people have their one comment "Hands full/Oh my" etc, but they don't need to go on and on about it.
post #37 of 136
We have received so many positive comments about our bunch lately. It seems everywhere I go lately someone stops to tell me how wonderful my family is. Yesterday someone said we were, "lovely". Last week a guy went on and on about how great and well behaved my kids were (and cute too). It is weird. And even the "hands full" comments of the week seemed to be stated in a positive way which was a refreshing change from the "wow, you must be crazy" undertone I have grown accustomed to What is going on? I am almost nervous about the drastic change in attitude :

Really though, it has been nice!
post #38 of 136
mclisa, When we were babysitting ds' friend (7yo) we had to have him to school by 8:15am. We're on the East Coast.
post #39 of 136
Yes 9 is early in our house ds1 has to be at school by 8.30 but everyone big and small finish at 3pm.
post #40 of 136
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We have received so many positive comments about our bunch lately. It seems everywhere I go lately someone stops to tell me how wonderful my family is. Yesterday someone said we were, "lovely". Last week a guy went on and on about how great and well behaved my kids were (and cute too). It is weird. And even the "hands full" comments of the week seemed to be stated in a positive way which was a refreshing change from the "wow, you must be crazy" undertone I have grown accustomed to What is going on? I am almost nervous about the drastic change in attitude :

Really though, it has been nice!
It is so nice to get positive comments. When my youngest was a few months old I ran into a high school friend's mom. She asked how many kids I had, I braced myself for the usual comments and instead she said "oh, how wonderful. I love big families." I almost cried.
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