Friendly Reminder to Treat Morning Sickness BEFORE it hits... - Page 4

[herenow2]

Originally Posted by Spark

Milk thistle & estrogen effects - From what I read about it, there's a "possible" connection, but there hasn't been any kind of evidence. There seems to be more evidence to support that Milk Thistle is beneficial to endometrios patients to help support the body's ability to regulate estrogen & process excess in a way that's helpful to the body. This is Shonda Parker's site. She's a well-known herbalist & huge promoter of Milk Thistle during pregnancy. You might find some answers with her: http://naturallyhealthy.org/archive3.htm

Thanks for the information and the link Spark. That's a great site, so much useful information.

[ekblad9]

Someone tell me why I'm so paranoid about RR Leaf Tea? I mean, truly paranoid. I drink it mixed with several other herbs in a pregnancy tea. The tea is awesome, makes me feel better, but I worry constantly about it. I am a worrier at heart anyway but I'm really worried about this. Even though MOST things I read say it's OK. I'm such a pain!

[Spark]

Herenow - the slant there is definitely Christian. Which if you are, then it's great. If you aren't, then just know that the information is REALLY good! Glad you're enjoying the read.

Well, let's see, Amy, RRL does have tannins in it. Some women are more prone to ctx when taking tannines. But, if you haven't experienced that in the past, then its' probably not an issue for you. RRL is used to prevent miscarriage. Susan Weed is a well respected herbalist & she has tons of info here on RRL for all stages pre and during pregnancy. http://www.susunweed.com/Article_Pregnancy_Problems.htm

[Mom2Lex&Cay]

Just thought I'd mentioned that I was able to find a time release B-6. I like that I only have to take 1 pill and it covers me for a day, I hope.

So far I'm feeling well, just super tired. I'm only getting a bit queasy, mostly due to eating something that didn't agree or going too long without eating. Waiting for the other herbs I bought online to arrive.

I'm also about a week to 2 weeks out from when the worst usually hits for me. :

[veganf]

Originally Posted by Mom2Lex&Cay

I'm also about a week to 2 weeks out from when the worst usually hits for me. :

Me too. I may be feeling great now, but the real test for all the herbal supplements will begin later. I'm only 4 weeks right now. I hope we all continue to do well!

[Spark]

Yes, week 7-8 is the real test for me. : Let it work!

[ekblad9]

I keep thinking "please let this work in a couple of weeks" so we'll see. I usually don't feel yucky this early and have felt massive twinges of m/s. I would already be down for the count if it weren't for all of these great ideas. So thank you so much for this! Every day I manage to function is a gift. I'll be eternally grateful to you!

[Spark]

Originally Posted by mama to 2 girls

I just got some milk thistle extract from the health food store and the one I bought has the least amount of anything added...It is standardized to 80% Silymarin, but it also has 700mg of Turmeric in it. Is that ok?

Ack! I'm so sorry, I didn't catch the tumeric info the first time I read though... I don't even know why I was re-reading, but I was! Anyway, that's too much Turmeric for pregnancy. Turmeric helps the liver cleanse and supports healthy function, however it's a mild uterine stimulant as well. It's fine to flavor food, but 700mg is too much while pregnant... unless you're in the last couple weeks. I'm going to PM you to make sure you see this!

[Spark]

Originally Posted by ekblad9

Every day I manage to function is a gift. I'll be eternally grateful to you!

Hey, I just compiled the info & everyone else has added what they know, too. This is about you making choices for you to have the best possible pregnancy you can have.

Who else feels like a major science experiement? It's like we're all prepping for the big 7-8 week surge... wondering... will our experiment work!?!? Sometimes I think, OF COURSE IT WILL, other times I get fearful and wonder if I should start care with an OB... but really, it HAS to work. I just can't check out of life for months on end.

[veganf]

Originally Posted by Spark

Who else feels like a major science experiement? It's like we're all prepping for the big 7-8 week surge... wondering... will our experiment work!?!?

Time will tell. But it BETTER WORK!!!!!!!!!!! I can't be that sick again.

[ekblad9]

Well, I got REALLY sick this afternoon. Nothing was helping. I decided to try the Zofron to see how I reacted since I didn't have any driving etc. to do. It worked like a miracle. I feel completely normal. Now I'm worried I'll want to take it all the time. I'm still going to do all the herbal and supplemental stuff because it *is* helping. I just have to be able to function. Please, God, don't let this harm my baby.

[mrs rockstar]

Ha, I was just joking to my husband that I feel like I'm in a science experiment. I just checked my milk thistle bottle and I wanted to run the ingredients by you to see if they sound ok dose wise (since you're the expert here!!)...

it's milk thistle 120mg providing 100mg silymarin and 20 mg of milk thistle fruit and 14 mg citrus bioflavonoids. All good?

I don't feel great today. I don't know if it's that I didn't sleep enough, drink enough, eat enough, a combo or just that my time to feel icky has come. I still don't have wild yam root, I'm going to pick some up when I go into town tomorrow. Going to drink some peppermint tea and hope for the best tonight.

Good luck ladies!!! That 7-8 week mark is coming!! Here's hoping our luck keeps up!

[mchalehm]

Originally Posted by ekblad9

Well, I got REALLY sick this afternoon. Nothing was helping. I decided to try the Zofron to see how I reacted since I didn't have any driving etc. to do. It worked like a miracle. I feel completely normal. Now I'm worried I'll want to take it all the time. I'm still going to do all the herbal and supplemental stuff because it *is* helping. I just have to be able to function. Please, God, don't let this harm my baby.

Try not to worry too much about this. Zofran, like any drug, is not risk-free, but it is well-tested and proven quite safe. I would rather take this than most other drugs during pregnancy--and I feel that it is better for my babe than a horrible diet, which is all that I can manage when not taking it. Anyway, if you do take it, it does no good to feel guilty. You've made an educated decision, you know? Go with what you think is best for the babe--and you--and then try not to second-guess yourself.

[ekblad9]

You're right and thank you. I worry about everything. Especially when things make me feel better. Somehow it's in my head that I have to suffer to get good things. Anyway - when the herbs were helping I worried that those were harmful. I feel selfish for wanting/needing to be functional and feel decent. I'm a wack job.

[Spark]

Originally Posted by ekblad9

Well, I got REALLY sick this afternoon.

Oh, Amy, I'm so sorry. What all are you taking? I went back & reread & it looks just like B-6? Are you doing anything else? If so, how much? I mean, I know you're doing the pregnancy tea, but there's not really anything in there associated with reducing M/S or hyperemisis.

I'm glad you got relief from Zofran. There just might be other things for you, if you want to explore the herbal remedies. Wild Yam Root & False Unicorn are stronger than just B-6 alone. Milk Thistle is really nice, too, but I would hit WWR & False Unicorn if you can only keep down a little bit.

But, don't feel pressured to do more natural remedies if you feel like you just want Zofran. Let your heart be your guide & you'll be on the right path. We all have to do what's best for our families.

[Spark]

sorry double post

[Spark]

Originally Posted by mrs rockstar

it's milk thistle 120mg providing 100mg silymarin and 20 mg of milk thistle fruit and 14 mg citrus bioflavonoids. All good?

I still don't have wild yam root, I'm going to pick some up when I go into town tomorrow. Going to drink some peppermint tea and hope for the best tonight.

So, topping out at 3 of those Milk Thistle capsules a day sounds like a good limit. They sound really nice.

Yeah, if you're feeling nauseaus for sure, get on that WYR. It's best to start before nausea hits, but you're still in the early stages, it sounds like. Prime time to add it.

Originally Posted by mrs rockstar

Good luck ladies!!! That 7-8 week mark is coming!! Here's hoping our luck keeps up!

Please, please. please! : Happy tummy vibes!

Still NO nausea from me. This is great. I'm 5w 2d.
This is what I'm on...
150 mg of B-6 spread out into 3 doses (just cheap stuff from grocery store, I take vit C for absorbtion)
1 unisom at bedtime (along with one of the B-6's) - I take this only because of my history with severe Nausea and Vomitting in Pregnancy (NVP)
Wild Yam Root in pill form 3x per day PLUS by Mannatech
Milk Thistle 3x per day
Extra folic acid (800 mcg total)
Probiotics (Kefir)
Water with lemon
--------------- added ---------------
Enzymes before meals Simplexity Health Enzymes
Flax Seed Oil (this isn't really NVP prevention)

[mchalehm]

Does anyone else have issues with the Unisom making them too tired? I took one before bed and I was knocked out the whole next day; taking a half, which I tried, was better, but didn't really help the nausea. (The whole one did help the nausea....but I was too tired to be a good teacher or to feel comfortable driving.) I'd really rather be okay with the herbs than need the Zofran, but I just have so many side effects with the herbs.

[ekblad9]

Yes - the unisom always hit me hard and for a long time. Even when I only took a half. FWIW the Zofron did not make me tired at all.

OK - I'm doing the tea which is RRL, Nettles, Dandelion, Chamomile, spearment, rosehips, alphelpha. About 1 qt/day of that. I take a multitude of vitamins. A b complex slow release, the 150 b6 spread out three times, emergen-c (1/day), omega 3's (1000mg), more milk two which has RRL, Nettles, and something I can't remember . I did WYR a couple of times but worried b/c it was in pill form that I was taking too much. I noticed you posted to that above so I will try that again. Also - I've been eating about 10 grams of protein with occasional carbs every hour and a half up intil around 11pm. I eat breakfast at 8 a.m. or so. I also drink about 100 oz of water/day.

It's so frustrating b/c I did this last time as well (minus the WYR) and it only helps to a point. Plus I feel more sick and much, much earlier than last time.

weird thing is that when I took the Zofron my nipples didn't hurt as much when I nursed the baby! I don't get that at all.

Anyway - thanks for listening. I whine my way through the first and half of the second trimester every time. Oh, wait, I whine about something through the whole pregnancy.

[Spark]

OMG! I just went back to my last DDC's archives! IT'S WORKING!!!! I couldn't remember the details, so I went & looked it up. Last time I was nauseaus up until the 5th week & then I started puking! http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=269279 OMG! I can say it's working thus far!!!! Not only have I not puked, but I'm not at all nauseaus! OMG! I wish that for you all!!!!!!

Unisom - Because I was hospitalized for such a long time last pregnancy and read the studies at motherisk.org for HG women, I really trust in it. I have taken it religiously every night before bed. I really don't care if I'm more tired (not that I've been able to tell the dif between it & regular 1st trimester stuff). Frankly I don't care about being tired. I need to not vomit blood & bile.

Hmmm, so Ekblad, you really only have a minute amount of Dandelion (weaker than MIlk Thistle) and B-6 going on for you. It's really not much for anti-nausea. You can do herbs in combination with Zofran. It might mean that you can take less Zofran or feel a longer lasting effect from it. I'm so sorry you're dealing with M/S.