Aluminum vs. Stainless Steel- The water bottle/sippy conversation continues... - Page 3

[L'lee]

Originally Posted by Bay Area Babe

We use Siggs - the main reason is we've been avoiding stainless cookware as there are health reasons not to be using stainless steel (don't have the time to get into all of the reasons right now but you can Google it).

If you get a chance sometime, I'd love to hear about this, this is new to me. I tried googling it and only came up with a little bit about how US SS has more nickel in it than European SS and some people have allergies. I have special interest because we JUST invested in a new set of SS pots and pans and it was disappointing already that I saw that they are MIC. : : I'd hate to return them but I though I was actually doing something healthy for the family! Aluminum is BAD, nonstick is BAD, Iron is BAD for men and Post-Menopausal women... :

[Nekawa Ma]

I'd like to know why the epoxy lining in an aluminum bottle is considered safer than plastic. Epoxy IS plastic.

[*Robin*]

Originally Posted by L'lee

If you get a chance sometime, I'd love to hear about this, this is new to me. I tried googling it and only came up with a little bit about how US SS has more nickel in it than European SS and some people have allergies.

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[aniT]

Originally Posted by L'lee

If you get a chance sometime, I'd love to hear about this, this is new to me. I tried googling it and only came up with a little bit about how US SS has more nickel in it than European SS and some people have allergies. I have special interest because we JUST invested in a new set of SS pots and pans and it was disappointing already that I saw that they are MIC. : : I'd hate to return them but I though I was actually doing something healthy for the family! Aluminum is BAD, nonstick is BAD, Iron is BAD for men and Post-Menopausal women... :

OK why is Iron bad? : I just spent way more money than I wanted too ditching all my non-stick cookware with SS on Mother's day. Now that is bad? I think we just can't win for loose. I do have a few cast Iron but I don't like to cook starchy foods or meat in them. (DH is vegan)

As for sippy cups, we use this:

http://www.newbornfree.com/ DS at one though would just prefer I hold a glass of water for him.

[andisunshine]

From Klean Kanteen's website:

What is stainless steel?
Stainless steel is an iron-containing alloy made from some of the basic elements found on earth: iron ore, chromium, silicon, nickel, carbon, nitrogen, and manganese. Properties of the final alloy are tailored by varying amounts of these elements. There are more than 57 stainless steels recognized as standard alloys on the market. Klean Kanteens are constructed from high quality sanitary grade 304 stainless steel which has a low nickel content. Stainless steel has excellent resistance to stain or rust due to its chromium content making it a material of choice among the food processing, dairy and brewery industries. Stainless steel is easy to clean, durable, inert and sanitary.

What is nickel and how can it affect my health?
Nickel is a naturally abundant element found in the earth’s crust, soil and ocean floor. It is generally resistant to corrosion and is therefore used to make metal alloys such as stainless steel. Approximately 10-15% of the population is sensitive to nickel. The health effects of nickel are highly dependent on the manner and degree of exposure, according to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR), a department of the U.S. Dept. of Public Health and Human Services. The ATSDR warns that environmental exposures may arise from wearing costume jewelry, handling coins or from inhaling dust near nickel industries. The most common reaction to handling nickel is a skin rash at the site of contact. Less frequently, those sensitive to nickel have asthma attacks after inhaling dust containing nickel. Klean Kanteens are constructed of high quality, sanitary grade 304 stainless steel. 304 has a low nickel content and is preferred by breweries and dairies.

It looks like they are very aware of the issues with nickel.

[michellemk]

Now this is the conversation I was looking for.

Is there a sippy that is made of high quality stainless steel that is not made in China? Maybe a European one? Because that is the one that we would purchase.

[confidentpregger]

BTW....I bought a Sigg for my then 6 month old and he figured out how to use it in less than a 1/2 hour. He loves it and doesn't even understand how regular sippy cups work now! He's dented it but it holds up good. We bought the twisty top.

[L'lee]

Originally Posted by aniT

OK why is Iron bad?

I have read that excess iron can increase the risk of heart attacks in men, but I just went searching for more info and it looks like Harvard did a study that disproved that. In your case, iron is probably not a problem since vegans get less heme iron anyways.

[ecoscapeleah]

why take chances?

I decided not to take chances with my child's and my family's health. I just went with stainless steel, since it is safe and aluminum is linked with neurological disorders. And how do we know for certain that the enamel coating inside the Sigg aluminum container is safe and will not wear with use? Unless there are many different third party testing agencies testing the product over time, it is really impossible to know. And that's probably why you have chosen not to use plastic cups, even the "safe" kind. Better truly safe than sorry.