2ww end of November testers??? - Page 7

[HulaJenn]

Originally Posted by filiadeluna

Here's my chart overlayed with one of them (mine is the green).

That link doesn't work for me - it just says that this is a feature for VIP members...but even without seeing it...you are not outta this game until AF rears her ugly head! There are so many different circumstances and reactions of the body being pg or not being pg.....really it isn't fun to be one of the few that don't get that nice line at 10 dpo...but it's not over yet.

[filiadeluna]

Originally Posted by HulaJenn

That link doesn't work for me - it just says that this is a feature for VIP members...but even without seeing it...you are not outta this game until AF rears her ugly head! There are so many different circumstances and reactions of the body being pg or not being pg.....really it isn't fun to be one of the few that don't get that nice line at 10 dpo...but it's not over yet.

Yeah, I wish I was one of the "lucky ones". I may not be lucky at all, but we'll see.

I saved it & uploaded to imageshack:
My chart overlayed with a late (20dpo) BFP chart (mine is the green).

[JustKiya]

Wow Luna - that IS a really close overlay of that chart - nice, nice!! :


8DPO for me, gassy as all get out (I need to mark that), and picked the biggest, silliest, overemotional fight EVER with DH last night - and I'm not the uber emotional type - that is an odd thing, for me - DEFINITELY out of the norm.

for all of us!! And I totally agree with you Hula - it ain't over til the red river flows!

[delphine]

Well, I am 10dpo but not feeling very hopeful. I am refusing to buy a hpt until next week at least. This month marks a year of TTC for us, so I think it's hit me really hard.

[letniaLynne]

Originally Posted by VeganCupcake

Luna, I was just stalking your chart : and I wonder if you really didn't ovulate until CD 21? That would only make you 11 or 12 DPO, right?

The reason I say that is because that coverline that FF gave you is really strange, with all those pre-o temps above it--about half of them, right? And your CP and CM didn't change back to infertile until CD 21.

filiadeluna, I saw this post in another thread and thought that VeganCupcake might be right. I would just for kicks go into fertility friend and discard the temp on cd18 (their is a check box next to where you enter your temp each day that you can click to remove that temp from the graph but not erase it from FF.). See what FF does to your chart, I would be curious to see where it predicts you ovulated without that temp in consideration.

[*Isra*]

luna~ My vote is for CD21 also..hmmm. And that chart overlay..OMG, you sure have one puurty chart there!!!! :

delphine~ you poor thing, that is so very hard. I pray you get your sticky bean SOON.

[Pyrodjm]

Well apparently I still haven't o'ed, so I will definitely have to change my test date. It looks like temps may rise tomorrow, though so we'll see.

[filiadeluna]

earthymama2b- thank you!

Originally Posted by BakerALM

filiadeluna, I saw this post in another thread and thought that VeganCupcake might be right. I would just for kicks go into fertility friend and discard the temp on cd18 (their is a check box next to where you enter your temp each day that you can click to remove that temp from the graph but not erase it from FF.). See what FF does to your chart, I would be curious to see where it predicts you ovulated without that temp in consideration.

Could be. I did try temporarily discarding it, and it moved it up to CD 21 as you guys thought. My only pondering with that is why the dip on what would THEN be only 4 dpo? Also, although I did continue to have EW/watery CM I marked it as creamy b/c I was "so sure" I had O'd on CD 18. Lastly, I recorded my cervix as being only partially open that day, but who knows if that was accurate either as it was hard to reach. Do you think, if CD 21 was O day, that our timing was still good??? :

[DextersGirl]

I'm confused.

My chart is on crack.

Please remove me from the Nov 22nd test date, and please forgive any trouble. I think I need to learn FF better...and also get DH home. I am not sleeping well without him and I cannot take good temps. It seems sleep deprivation also does strange things to the body...

Luna...I told you you may have O'd later than you thought. I am still holding out hope, bad Dr's appt and all! Did you ever think we'd reach a day when we knew more than the doctor in terms of our body's rhythms and normalities/abnormalities?

I have not read this entire thread, so please forgive me if I missed any good news, and my heart goes out to anyone who feels a little discouraged.

Fertile thoughts,
Christi

[DextersGirl]

Please remove me from Nov 22nd test day...

Sorry about that. I forgot to put it in bold above.

Thanks so much!

Christi

[*Isra*]

Originally Posted by filiadeluna

earthymama2b- thank you!


Do you think, if CD 21 was O day, that our timing was still good??? :

Your timing is fabulous!

[filiadeluna]

Originally Posted by DextersGirl

I'm confused.

My chart is on crack.

Please remove me from the Nov 22nd test date, and please forgive any trouble. I think I need to learn FF better...and also get DH home. I am not sleeping well without him and I cannot take good temps. It seems sleep deprivation also does strange things to the body...

Wow Christi, your chart really is wacky. Sleep deprivation & changes can definitely mess with your body & especially your temps. I've noticed that a little bit with my temps too. Don't give up, though. How long have you been temping?

Luna...I told you you may have O'd later than you thought. I am still holding out hope, bad Dr's appt and all! Did you ever think we'd reach a day when we knew more than the doctor in terms of our body's rhythms and normalities/abnormalities?

No kidding. It's so weird. The doctor said something about charting being kind of outdated (compared to OPKs), but I still think it is of some value. I'm thinking now I may have even ovulated a day later than that, because on CD 22 I re-took my temp b/c at first it measured really really really low (like 93.23 - too low to be correct), but it could have been somewhere in between that weirdly low temp and the second temp.

[DextersGirl]

Originally Posted by filiadeluna

Wow Christi, your chart really is wacky. Sleep deprivation & changes can definitely mess with your body & especially your temps. I've noticed that a little bit with my temps too. Don't give up, though. How long have you been temping?


No kidding. It's so weird. The doctor said something about charting being kind of outdated (compared to OPKs), but I still think it is of some value. I'm thinking now I may have even ovulated a day later than that, because on CD 22 I re-took my temp b/c at first it measured really really really low (like 93.23 - too low to be correct), but it could have been somewhere in between that weirdly low temp and the second temp.

(1) I have only been temping this cycle...and a long time ago (over ten years ago) I have a lot to re-learn.
(2) Is your doctor crazy? No disrespect, but charting helps us know a lot. It will never completely be outdated because of the temps, the C position, and the CM. If you read TCOYF, the author says that OPK can even be a little unreliable because they only show the surge, and sometimes by the time a LH surge shows, we've already O'd. Maybe the tests are different now, designed to show BEFORE O...but they still cannot take the place of what our bodies say. Even without a test, we can accurately see annovulation, temp shifts, pregnancies with a chart. I don't like him for you, Luna.

I'll be your personal chart stalker until we find out what's going on.

As for me...I am just out of it...my chart is not helping, nor is my lack of sleep while DH is gone. He will be home tomorrow morning at 9am.

Thank God!!!

Christi

[filiadeluna]

Originally Posted by DextersGirl

(1) I have only been temping this cycle...and a long time ago (over ten years ago) I have a lot to re-learn.
(2) Is your doctor crazy? No disrespect, but charting helps us know a lot. It will never completely be outdated because of the temps, the C position, and the CM. If you read TCOYF, the author says that OPK can even be a little unreliable because they only show the surge, and sometimes by the time a LH surge shows, we've already O'd. Maybe the tests are different now, designed to show BEFORE O...but they still cannot take the place of what our bodies say. Even without a test, we can accurately see annovulation, temp shifts, pregnancies with a chart. I don't like him for you, Luna.

I'll be your personal chart stalker until we find out what's going on.

As for me...I am just out of it...my chart is not helping, nor is my lack of sleep while DH is gone. He will be home tomorrow morning at 9am.

Thank God!!!

Christi

You are so good at cheering me up!

Well I don't think the doc was completely discounting charting. He didn't tell me I shouldn't bother, but I think he meant it wasn't the one & only way of tracking fertility. Does that make sense? Still, though...

This is my first cycle doing my temps too. I think I am going to try to focus the rest of this week on just doing things around the apartment & spending time with DH. I will still temp, but I'm sick of this worrying - argh!

I'm sorry your chart isn't very clear yet. Mine looked all kinds of wacky in the beginning, but once I adjusted some of the temps for my wake-up times & discarded a few of the really crazy temps, it helped a lot. Also I think Daylight Savings Time screwed with ALL of our charts to an extent, and DST happened right around the time I might have O'd so that makes it worse for me.

[DextersGirl]

Originally Posted by Rememberjoy

I don't want to wait that long for you to test. I am just as anxious to find out your results as I am my own. But I understand. I don't think I will last that long before my curiosity gets the better of me. I enjoyed the Herron/Herring thing. I think that is a good sign of being pg. Your mind tends to not work well when you are pg. I am also thinking that when I put the buttermilk in the cupboard, the brown sugar in the fridge and getting the day wrong on my friend's birthday all as good signs of being pg. If my sign theory is correct then I predict that DextersGirl will be pg too since she drove on the wrong side of the street.

I am so late seeing this.

You are a nut!!!

I WISH!!! Girl, look at my retarded chart. I can't tell if I O'd or for that matter J'd or W'd or L'd or any other letter. I wish my own self good luck for next month.

LOL @ your comment. That was good...unless you think about the fact that I drove on the right side of the street...just in the wrong country.

Hmmmmm. Think on THAT one!

lol
Christi...the woman with the chart on drugs.
:

[HulaJenn]

Originally Posted by filiadeluna

earthymama2b- thank you!


Could be. I did try temporarily discarding it, and it moved it up to CD 21 as you guys thought. My only pondering with that is why the dip on what would THEN be only 4 dpo? Also, although I did continue to have EW/watery CM I marked it as creamy b/c I was "so sure" I had O'd on CD 18. Lastly, I recorded my cervix as being only partially open that day, but who knows if that was accurate either as it was hard to reach. Do you think, if CD 21 was O day, that our timing was still good??? :

I have a big dip at 3dpo. I was told it could be something called a fallback rise (if you google it FF has a link explaining it - nothing really concerning either way) or I have seen a couple charts on FF with 4dpo implantation dips.
Sorry your doc wasn't helpful at all.
I guess us hyping about your chart doesn't make for finding good peace of mind either so i too will stop commenting on it. We are all here to support each other no matter the outcome.

[filiadeluna]

Originally Posted by *Isra*

Your timing is fabulous!

Thank you! How did I not see this? People post so quickly lol.

Originally Posted by HulaJenn

I have a big dip at 3dpo. I was told it could be something called a fallback rise (if you google it FF has a link explaining it - nothing really concerning either way) or I have seen a couple charts on FF with 4dpo implantation dips.
Sorry your doc wasn't helpful at all.
I guess us hyping about your chart doesn't make for finding good peace of mind either so i too will stop commenting on it. We are all here to support each other no matter the outcome.

Oh, it's OK. You know I honestly think that because it's been such a drawn out cycle that I will not be as "devastated" as I was last cycle if I get a BFN. Yeah, I'll be disappointed, but I have learned a LOT about charting this month & think it will set me up for better chances in the future should I need to.

[Sugarshoc]

Originally Posted by BakerALM

Don't count yourself out yet, 5 days it alot! How many DPO are you?

I'm about 10 DPO.

[filiadeluna]

My nips are STILL sore this morning. QUITE sore. No AF signs either, and my temp jumped up to 98.08, the highest yet!!!

Do you guys think the fact that I'm taking children's aspirin (for the extra blood flow & all that) could be lowering my temps at all? I take it in the morning *after* temping, so I figure probably not, but just wondering.

[geo_girl]

Originally Posted by delphine

Well, I am 10dpo but not feeling very hopeful. I am refusing to buy a hpt until next week at least. This month marks a year of TTC for us, so I think it's hit me really hard.

I'm really sorry to hear that Delphine. I'm not someone who is going to say "I REALLY think this is YOUR month!!!"...(I'm not big on false optimism).

I hope that you are able to keep your spirits up, and focus on the other positive things in your life...

This is our 8th TTC cycle, and I find that every month my mood/approach is a bit different...this month I'm feeling *shrug shoulders*, mahhh, we'll see.... I'm really hoping that this is your month Delphine!

Charlene