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post #21 of 107
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Originally Posted by LionTigerBear View Post

Also, I know it may seem an odd view but I feel that saying "no circ" is promoting circ in a way. ("No longer give your strength to that which you wish to be free from.") It's giving energy to the cause of circumcision, which is not what I want. If there were a smilie that said "intactness" or "genital integrity" (yeah, try fitting that on a smilie!) then I'd be more likely to include it. But there isn't, and I don't want to take up half of my signature to address the issue, at least, not right now. I would consider it.
It's not odd to me! This is why I left the smiley out of my sig until just a couple days ago. Now I'm having second thoughts again.
post #22 of 107
I sometimes feel curious about how people feel about RIC (in general) but I don't tend to assume anything in particular if a person doesn't have an anti-circ quote, link, or smiley in their siggy. In making a siggy, we have such a small space to describe ourselves that there might be a lot of other things - like kid's ages, homebirth, breastfeeding, vax, etc. - that we may want to talk about, and we may run out of room. And some people who are inactivists may choose not to advertise it in the siggy for various reasons.
post #23 of 107
The main purpose of the no circ smiley to me is NOT to advertise that my ds is intact I put it there so that it may point someone in the direction of CAC so that they can learn the truth and just possibly save a boy from it.

That is why I think it is so important to have it. You never know who might see it and it could very well be the start of their research and decision not to circ.
post #24 of 107
OP - the thought has crossed my mind once or twice. Typically, if a no circ smiley is not there, I don't think about it unless their post makes me question their stance on the issue. Then, I will check to see if they give me any clues w/ their sig.

I don't even have any boys. My sig smiley is for intactivism purposes.
post #25 of 107
I wondered that too. I like to think every MDC family opposes circumcision. Sadly a few don't. When I don't see a nocirc smiley in the siggy, I wonder if they're the few that believe in circumcision.

I think every siggy should have a nocirc siggy, imo... Especially those who oppose circumcision because it'll plant seeds into the fence sitters.
post #26 of 107
I don't. I am adamantly and zealously against *all* non-medical circumcision.
I just figure, we have two lines, and you can't fit every important cause in there -- there's a lot I'm leaving out besides circ. I also find that when somebody has eight zillion smilies in their siggy I tend not to pay attention to what it says. : So I like to keep mine fairly simple.

I tell you when I do wonder though -- when people come to MDC for a specific interest, like say UC, or a DDC, or just like to hang out on TAO, etc., and don't seem to be involved anywhere else. I wonder if they're into natural parenting practices in general.
post #27 of 107
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Originally Posted by 2crazykids View Post
I'm here on MDC for pete's sake! Everyone can feel safe in knowing that I believe in all the silly siggie smilies here
If only that were true.....
post #28 of 107
I wish we had more room in our siggys. Right now my focus is the holiday helper. Normally my siggy has links to pics of my kids. I used to have a ton of smileys but I got tired of looking at them.
I do often wonder, when people either don't have a signature or don't specify, what their stance is on a lot of things.
post #29 of 107
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The main purpose of the no circ smiley to me is NOT to advertise that my ds is intact I put it there so that it may point someone in the direction of CAC so that they can learn the truth and just possibly save a boy from it.

That is why I think it is so important to have it. You never know who might see it and it could very well be the start of their research and decision not to circ.
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I also wonder if i dont see it because sometimes people may find mdc after their child(ren) are born and may not have gotten much information on the issue.

so yes i wonder, sometimes.

Jessica
post #30 of 107
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Originally Posted by LionTigerBear View Post

Also, I know it may seem an odd view but I feel that saying "no circ" is promoting circ in a way. ("No longer give your strength to that which you wish to be free from.") It's giving energy to the cause of circumcision, which is not what I want. If there were a smilie that said "intactness" or "genital integrity" (yeah, try fitting that on a smilie!) then I'd be more likely to include it. But there isn't, and I don't want to take up half of my signature to address the issue, at least, not right now. I would consider it.
Actually we do have the Genital Intergrity ribbon :
post #31 of 107
Ok, well I don't have a siggy at all....

If I did though I probably wouldn't put the anti circ smilie in it because in the UK no-one ever asks or even thinks about it. You don't circ as routine, end of story. I remember on a different message board I frequent a US mum asking about circ and you could almost hear the gasp of shock and horror. It's just not something I've thought about a lot, even though dh and I have had our disagreements because he is circ'ed (different country where it is the norm). I am thinking about it now though.
post #32 of 107
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Originally Posted by Kay11 View Post
Ok, well I don't have a siggy at all....

If I did though I probably wouldn't put the anti circ smilie in it because in the UK no-one ever asks or even thinks about it. You don't circ as routine, end of story. I remember on a different message board I frequent a US mum asking about circ and you could almost hear the gasp of shock and horror. It's just not something I've thought about a lot, even though dh and I have had our disagreements because he is circ'ed (different country where it is the norm). I am thinking about it now though.
: That's the post I was just about to write. Circ is a non issue here. In a way, i think that having a "say no to circ" smiley is supporting circ, because it makes people think about circ as a choice. Something that you could say yes as well as no to It's not a choice. It's a disgusting human rights violation (or it should be, anyway).
post #33 of 107
Not in my sig., son is intact.

I also CD, Co-sleep, EBF, question vaxes, etc., etc., etc...
post #34 of 107
Interesting, I've never thought about it...but now you'll have me wondering ! I do feel strongly that anti-circ sigs do influence people if they are parents-to-be coming to a parenting website for the first time.

But I don't forget that not everyone pays for a premium membership, and there is a cap on # of smilies in sigs for many people, and people's sig priorities (or lack of sig) are their own business.

And I was also going to mention the Genital Integrity ribbon!
post #35 of 107
It is in an interesting thought, I think on a few occasions I have wondered. Only because I know a few moms IRL who circ and do come to MDC. Sadly one has told me flat out that they avoid the CAC because they don't want to know what a horrible thing they let happen to their kid (I think because of the way she said it she instinctively knew it was wrong, but caved because her DH wanted it done).

I keep it in my siggy because I think here in the US it's such an important thing to discuss and an issue that people need to talk about.

It is very important to me, as I've been personally affected by circ (through my DH).

The other natural parenting stuff associated with MDC I do, yet I don't feel as strongly about.

Every baby has the right to keep their genitals whole. And it's sad here in the US that half the population is at risk for that. :

It should be normal and natural to have your whole body. To know that the foreskin is valuable errogenous tissue. But, here in the US, whole generations have surgically altered penises...and they don't want to think they are missing anything. They'd rather stay subconsciously continue to mutilate their sons and grandsons rather than let them have something they will never have. And, its bizarre but it seems like most people, espcially in older generations have been taught that men with foreskins are gross, smelly and unclean. It's so flippin warped if you think about it, because its so obvious that girls have more internal parts. But people here don't talk about it, and will not even acknowledge that cutting baby penis parts off is wrong.

So many people here in the US think circumcision is a snip...that the foreskin is like a flap of skin like an earlobe...and I'm not kidding. They don't know it's the removal of 40-60% of the skin of the penis, and is valuable errogenous tissue. They have no clue how a normal penis is supposed to act. They think lubrication is something that all people have to use to have sex, that it is "normal" :.

So I do think, if you feel strongly about genital integrity then it's important to say so.

If you live in a country other than the US where quite obviously circumcision is considered mutilation and is a shocking prospect you could just say that in your siggie.

Something like 'in our country circumcision of boys and girls is considered a human rights violation or it's unheard of or is not a legal parental choice.'

It's honestly amazing how many people here in the US I have met who think all the men around the world (except Africa and non-developed countries...) are cut. :

Anyhow, that was sort of a tangent.
post #36 of 107
Yes, I wonder why they don't and assume it is b/c they circ'ed. Especially if their join date is after their son's birthdate.

The best place to scope out circing members is on those "the ways I'm not crunchy" threads. Lots of bull$%^& there.

MDC is primarily an American site and so to say that you don't even think about it b/c you are from a non-circing country... well, you are missing an opportunity to help some other babies. And if a new person comes to MDC and sees most members saying no-circ in their siggies, well, that is a very powerful statement.
post #37 of 107
I do wonder too, but I also assume that people here are more likely to have intact kids. For my sanity IRL, I try to pretend that kids are intact too & I never look at any boys diaper changes. I keep mine up because intactivism is very important to me, yet I left off other stuff b/c of room too.
post #38 of 107
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Originally Posted by phatchristy View Post
If you live in a country other than the US where quite obviously circumcision is considered mutilation and is a shocking prospect you could just say that in your siggie.
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post #39 of 107
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Originally Posted by fruitful womb View Post
I think every siggy should have a nocirc siggy, imo... Especially those who oppose circumcision because it'll plant seeds into the fence sitters.
yep, and a breastfeeding, and a novax, and an organic, and a co-sleeping, and a gentle discipline and a cloth diapering, and.... and... and...
People have different pet issues, that are important to them. To some people not circing is just not the main issue.

I find the idea of being judged by what I don't have in my siggy to be a bit :
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Originally Posted by phatchristy View Post
If you live in a country other than the US where quite obviously circumcision is considered mutilation and is a shocking prospect you could just say that in your siggie.

Something like 'in our country circumcision of boys and girls is considered a human rights violation or it's unheard of or is not a legal parental choice.'
you know, if I was to address all the things Americans do that to me are unheard of or crazy, I would need 2 siggies, and I would probably be getting pissed off PMs every day.

I think circ is ridiculous, but I also think the anti-global warming people are ridiculous, I think the US stand on reducing CO2 emissions is a more immediate risk to our planet than their penchant for chopping off their sons' penises. I think that the fact that there are areas where there is opposition to the teaching of evolution in schools is crazy. I think that the standard portion size in the US is nuts and a big contributor to the obesity issue. I think that the US sponsored vilification of people of Arab descent is evil.

I think I ran out of sig space a while ago

No i will keep my sig for the issues that matter to ME.
post #40 of 107
Nah.

If I tried to put all my beliefs in my sig, I'd run out of room pretty fast. I don't assume anything about anyone here based on what is(n't) in their sig, either.

This is just an educated guess, but I'm thinking most mamas on MDC are not pro-circ anyway.
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