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post #21 of 28
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Thanks for all the replies, everyone. This morning my mom spoke to my dad about helping him out with the children more, too. Which is really, really good.

Basically, what it comes down to is what a lot of PPs have said...it's money. It seems like CPS is pressuring my dad to do guardianship or adoption so that they can get them out of the foster care system and stop making the montly payments. Well, not only does my dad not want the permanent responsibility, but he needs that monthly stipend to care for them. I mean, it's 3 preteens, they are expensive! They have a hearing tomorrow, and based on what happens at that hearing, I will have to decide whether or not I will offer to take them. I would take them in a heartbeat...but again, if I were to adopt them, I wouldn't get any assistance, and I have no idea how we could afford to take care of them, in all honesty. We can barely make ends meet as it is (and often, ends DON'T meet, lately). It seems from what I heard today that it is pretty likely my dad will keep them for now. So let's all pray that when it's all said and done tomorrow he still has them. Thanks again everyone.
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by angelachristin View Post
Basically, what it comes down to is what a lot of PPs have said...it's money. It seems like CPS is pressuring my dad to do guardianship or adoption so that they can get them out of the foster care system and stop making the montly payments. .
I don't really understand this....these children should qualify for adoption subsidy, regardless who adopts them. It should be the same amount that they are receiving in foster care. Check out this link:

http://www.nacac.org/adoptionsubsidy...achusetts.html

That lists the subsidy criteria for the state of MA.

It also mentions something about "subsidized guardianship"...your dad *should* be able to become the permanent legal guardian for the kids, without adopting them, and still receive subsidy. It makes no sense that they would give a complete stranger a subsidy, if they adopt the kids, but not family.

Please have your dad (or you yourself) talk to someone who really knows their "stuff" when it comes to subsidy. You might even want to call NACAC yourself, or the Dave Thomas Foundation or someone. I dont think you are getting the correct info here, i think they are trying to get your dad to take the kids without subsidy....he should not agree to it, he can fight for what is owed.


Katherine
post #23 of 28
From the link QJ posted above. Encourage your parents to find someone to help them kick the social workers butt into gear...they should have been informed of this option.

14. Does Massachusetts operate a subsidized guardianship program?

Yes. The Commonwealth of Massachusetts provides a state funded guardianship subsidy for children who are placed with an approved resource, in the custody of the Department and sponsored by The Department of Social Services. The program is administered through the Adoption Subsidy Unit. The child must be under the age of 18, continue to reside with the guardian that was sponsored by the Department. Annual re-evaluations are sent to the approved family. These forms must be sent back prior to the annual renewal date indicated on the form.

The amount of the subsidy is based on the needs of the child and cannot be more than the child would have received in family-based foster care. Health insurance is provided through the MassHealth program for children residing in Massachusetts. There are no transferable provisions for healthcare insurance should the family move out of state.

Application is made through the child’s social worker. The applications must be submitted to the subsidy administrator prior to the court legalization date. The Department will not provide a subsidy for any guardianship that was not sponsored by the Department of Social Services.
post #24 of 28
If you took the kids to Vegas would you be willing to assist your sister in moving to Vegas as well, and supporting her transition, so that they are not completely separated from their mother, with no chance of visitation? Or do you think that she should not see her kids at all?
post #25 of 28
Call their social worker. My family is also in MA and my siblings in foster care. My MIL is in the process of getting two of my younger siblings, one is here already. I think its called an interstate compact? That they do. But it is possible. My MIL also recieves a money to help care for him. Her ultimate goal is to adopt them though so im not sure if that makes a difference.
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by angelachristin View Post
I don't know what I can do.

I live in Las Vegas, the rest of my family lives in Massachusetts, where I am originally from. I am a married SAHM with a nearly 1 yo, my husband has a good job here, and we just bought our first home in April.

My sister, who has 3 kids, a 10 yo girl and 9 yo boy/girl twins, has been in trouble most of her adult life. She is younger than me. She has had problems being addicted to prescription drugs and with shoplifting, and she was arrested last November and spent a couple of months in jail. At that time, her children were taken and our dad and stepmom (our parents have been divorced for over 10 years and are both remarried) became the kids' foster parents. When my sister got out of jail, she was doing really well and went back to working for my dad (he owns several Subway sandwich stores). She was supposed to get her kids back during the summer,before school started again. Well, she got mad at my dad over soemthing and quit coming in to work, so he decided she must be on drugs again and reported that to her CPS social worker. They immediately stopped my sister's visits (by that time, she was taking them for extended overnights, etc). She went a little berserk and was coming to my dad's house yelling at him, and went down to CPS yelling, which wasn't good. She was taking all sorts of drug tests for probation anyway, which proved she was never back on drugs, but her CPS caseworker kept saying he hadn't recieved them. Finally, she was granted once weekly supervised visits at CPS.

Now, since it has been almost a year that they have been in foster care and with no sign of letting them go back to my sister, CPS says that if my dad does not take guardianship of them or adopt them, they will have to be separated and placed out to new foster families. My dad is willing to keep them if they can stay foster with him...but he does not want the permanent responsibility of adopting them. But CPS says no they can't do that.

My mom will not take them (LONG story, but suffice it to say it just isn't an option).

Would CPS let ME take them, here to Las Vegas? I would take them, but I just can't uproot our entire life and move to Massachusetts where my husband would have no job, to adopt 3 more children. If they could come here, I could make it work. But I have no idea if this would fly. I plan to call the CPS caseworker tomorrow, but I was just wondering if anyone here knew anything about something like this.

I can't let them be broken up and go to strangers...they have already been through so much. And the oldest...she is like my own baby in many ways...I still remember holding her in the hospital when she was born, and we have always been very close even though I moved so far away when she was only a year old...I can't let this happen to them if there is a chance I can help. :
I really hope you can. Your sister and her children would be better off with your love and support. I hope you can take them and that your sister moves out to LV to regain custody of them.
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by WNB View Post
If you took the kids to Vegas would you be willing to assist your sister in moving to Vegas as well, and supporting her transition, so that they are not completely separated from their mother, with no chance of visitation? Or do you think that she should not see her kids at all?
Before all of this mess happened, with her getting arrested, I have offered before that she could bring her kids (when she still had them) and come live with us so that she could try to get a fresh start, away from her ex-husband and ex-SIL, who are also drug addicts and bad influences.

Now, honestly, I am sort of leery because when she is using, like most users, she is just scary to be around, and I have to say I don't want her around my baby. When I visited family in MA over the summer, she kept saying things like she was going to steal my baby and when we were all posing for a family picture, she got mad because I wouldn't let her hold Jackson in the picture. I told her, "He's my baby, I want to hold him," and she kept saying, "No, he's not your baby, he's MY baby." It might sound like no big deal, but it was scary. She is scary. I want my sister to get better, but she scares me and I don't want her near Jackson. She's also done a lot of screwed up stuff to me, like when she got arrested in November, she initially told the cops she was me, and gave them my name and social security #, which she has had memorized since I was in college. She has done this lots of times. I probably have a criminal record in MA. But that's a whole other issue.

THANK YOU to the pp with that link. I saw that they qualify as special needs due to being a sibling group of 3 or more and also on another point being over the age of 8, so that's great. I'm going to send that info on to my dad. Their case was not heard today due to the children's GAL being unavailalbe, so nothing will be decided until January.
post #28 of 28
Thinking of you.

It's good nothing will happen till January. That gives you all time to make a plan that will really work. I wouldn't be too concerned about the relationship with their mother if they do end up coming to you. You have time to work that all out in the time to come. It's also nice they won't have to make a big move (whether to your house in another state or worse, to a stranger foster home) during the holiday season.
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