Originally Posted by captain crunchy
Please be reminded that advocating or defending physical punishment is never allowed on the GD forum or on MDC (see user agreement).
I've read this whole thread, and I can't see where anyone here has defended physical punishment
. If you're referring to the poster who shared how wonderful her parents were, in spite of
sometimes using physical punishment (and yes, I saw her post before she deleted parts of it), I can't see how any
of that could be construed as defending physical punishment
I think you can defend people without condoning every. single. thing they do. How can we call ourselves GD if we're not willing to extend the GD attitude beyond our own families, and share the compassion with all the other people who lack the resources we have?
If your older child hits your younger, do you automatically call CPS to get services for him? Would CPS be your first resort in getting help for your child or yourself? If not, then why treat a complete stranger as any less human?
In response to the people who don't think it was over-the-top to call police on a mom who smacked her toddler's hand, because wouldn't we do the same if it happened to an adult -- no, I WOULDN'T call police if I saw a man smack his wife on the hand (or a wife smack her husband on the hand). I'd figure that was their deal.
And the analogy that it's okay to call the cops if your neighbor has a loud party, so why not to call CPS -- well, I see a few holes in that. Not that I'd call the cops over a loud party: keeping up good relations with my neighbors means more to me than the convenience of a quiet night. If I was really bugged, I'd just go over and ask them to quiet down.
But here's the difference between the disturbing the peace accusation and the child abuse accusation: the latter has more potential to devastate the accused and his/her family.
While I realize thismama's right in saying that CPS provides other services besides child removal -- from my understanding these services are not always offered as a free choice. Even in cases where the services really are
optional, and the parents really don't
have to sign the careplan, some caseworkers aren't careful to make sure the parents know they have a right to refuse ... then once the plan is signed, the parents are stuck with having to comply.
CPS may seem like a smorgasbord of help to some parents -- but some would rather select their own buffet, so to speak. I can think of lots of other people I'd rather turn to for help and counseling, than a CPS worker.