Yet one more cause for Autism! - Page 3

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by bdavis337

Ok, really. Have you been paying attention to the general tone here? We're not trying to figure out the WHY, we just want to deal with the NOW, and how to best help our children, regardless of their special needs - autism, sensory issues, adhd......etc. It's not that I don't care about the "why", it's just that it's already here, and I can't expend that kind of personal energy on it, b/c I barely have enough to manage the here and now, much less the past.

And we've had a good number the threads lately about why "everyone" feels the need to figure out the "why". The "WHY" isn't up for debate here, it's how to best help our kids live the best lives they can, the way they are most happy and comfortable and safe.

Of course I realize that the here and now is the really important issue for mothers of ASD kids. But this thread was about Wi Fi hot spots and the possible link to autism. Not that you can do anything much about Wi Fi hot spots, they are largely beyond the general public's control. However, the tone of this thread is, especially the post by Jennifer3141:

You're right. You caught us. We caused our kids to be autistic. Thanks for pointing it out!

...implies that this kind of research blames the parent, which I find ridiculous. By that standard so is the genetic cause, which most of the posters on this board seem to favor, which must be the parents' fault, it is their bad genes afterall. :

Microwaves are an important health issue for parents of SN or NT kids alike, they effect everyone.

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by peekyboo

so does this mean I should blame my microwave and not George Bush for my ds's possible Asperger's?

Blame whomever you like.

[harpertrance]

I hate it when threads like this get out of control. Everyone has different ideas about this, and different theories. I think that it is more important to help the children NOW rather than try and point the finger at different causes. Though, it would be nice if there was a REAL answer out there...

There is no reason to fight, this is supposed to be a place or respect and support for everyone.

[bdavis337]

Yeah, this was fun for a while. Every now and then we just need to have some fun! And the tinfoil hat thing, well, it was FUNNY! Just a bit 'o fun and it got off track.

[Brigianna]

Originally Posted by ShaggyDaddy

It is attractive that I play out hundreds of bizarre doomsday scenarios in my brain daily?? Maybe my current novel project (failed nano, but i'm not giving up) will have more appeal than I thought. It's not science fiction if it's plausable right?

Yes. That is very attractive. Though I lean more towards economic crises, myself (collapse of the dollar, anyone?).

Originally Posted by Justthatgirl

Maybe the republicans are the cause of autism...

:

Why would Republicans want more nonconformists out there questioning their policies? Nah, they don't like us.

[Brigianna]

Originally Posted by Jennifer Z

We live in Kansas with relatives in San Antonio. Hmmmm...so, you think it is a legitimate theory? It has as much credibility as all of the other "causes".


The one thing that is interesting about THIS site is that a lot of the "causes" are all modern/mainstream things that a lot of people here don't do. Vaxes...well, what about all the non-vaxers here, food source, both pre and post natal...lots of vegans, vegetarians, and all-organic families, Antibiotics & medications...lots of people who shun modern medicine (at least during the pregnancy/birth/early childhood time). With almost every hysterical thing, you can find a family, or several, or many families that can step up and say "we didn't do that and yet our child is autistic".

In a way, it is sort of ironic that when it comes to autism, the mainstream is full of conspiracy theories, while the NFL/AP families, who tend to be more supportive of conspiracy theories for many other things, will step up and say "we didn't do that, can't be a cause". A rare thing when MDC has more skeptics to a conspiracy theory than proponents.

Honestly, I put that in the same category as Jerry Falwell saying that 9/11 was caused by liberals. Taking something bad and attributing it to evils in the culture. If only we were a better/more moral/more natural/more eco-friendly culture, we wouldn't be punished with this plague of autism. Of course, if you don't see autism as a plague, but rather as an equally valid alternative way of being, this just seems sort of silly.

[ShaggyDaddy]

Originally Posted by Brigianna

Though I lean more towards economic crises, myself (collapse of the dollar, anyone?).

the foreclosure rate is near 5%

How high will it get before the infrastructure can't evict people anymore? Once not paying your mortgage is not a threat to having you get kicked out, how many people will still pay.

Banks have 15% of the money to fund home loans, the rest is from the federal bank. Not paying on the current crazy mortgages has given americans a new way to launch another run on the banks and great depression. Before there just weren't enough insane home loans to do that, but we have spent ourselves into a strange place.

I am a risk analysis software engineer for the bank that owns the most home loans in the country, and all I can say is... if we make it to december 2011 we are out of the woods, but the years between now and then may be the most meaningful for our country since 1776.

[Jennifer3141]

Originally Posted by uccomama

...implies that this kind of research blames the parent, which I find ridiculous. By that standard so is the genetic cause, which most of the posters on this board seem to favor, which must be the parents' fault, it is their bad genes afterall. :

Microwaves are an important health issue for parents of SN or NT kids alike, they effect everyone.

I think if you spent more time here that you'd find that this particular group of mamas (and papas!) isn't really into blaming anyone for their children's autism and frankly, many of us relish neurodiversity.

And no, I don't believe microwave ovens are dangerous. I believe in the scientific method too much.

Plus everytime I boil peas in it, I'm trying to reach the people on Alpha Centauri, or at least another mom here.

[BellinghamCrunchie]

Originally Posted by Jennifer3141

Plus everytime I boil peas in it, I'm trying to reach the people on Alpha Centauri, or at least another mom here.

[peekyboo]

Originally Posted by uccomama

Blame whomever you like.

Actually, I was just joking around. I'm yet another one of these weird moms here not looking for a cause or somewhere to lay the blame.

I think you need to understand something - around here, we have slightly warped senses of humor. It helps lighten up our lives, which can be struggles at times.

[Jennifer3141]

Originally Posted by peekyboo

Actually, I was just joking around. I'm yet another one of these weird moms here not looking for a cause or somewhere to lay the blame.

I think you need to understand something - around here, we have slightly warped senses of humor. It helps lighten up our lives, which can be struggles at times.

Especially when our moms visit, right hon?

More peas, Bellingham?

[peekyboo]

Originally Posted by Jennifer3141

Especially when our moms visit, right hon?

More peas, Bellingham?

Very much so when mother figures come to visit! LOL!

So, if peas contact Alpha Centauri, what does nuking green beans do for interstellar communications?

[wonderwahine]

Originally Posted by bdavis337

Ok, really. Have you been paying attention to the general tone here? We're not trying to figure out the WHY, we just want to deal with the NOW, and how to best help our children, regardless of their special needs - autism, sensory issues, adhd......etc. It's not that I don't care about the "why", it's just that it's already here, and I can't expend that kind of personal energy on it, b/c I barely have enough to manage the here and now, much less the past.

And we've had a good number the threads lately about why "everyone" feels the need to figure out the "why". The "WHY" isn't up for debate here, it's how to best help our kids live the best lives they can, the way they are most happy and comfortable and safe.

I dont care "why" ds is this way anymore, I am just glad that I got the opportunity to take it slower and find the joy in the small inchstones. Who thought hearing a 2yr old say mama would almost make your heart explode?

[wonderwahine]

Originally Posted by peekyboo

I still think we should elect Kermit the Frog though.

kermie for president!!!!!!!!!

[peekyboo]

Originally Posted by wonderwahine

kermie for president!!!!!!!!!

Kermit - the REAL Green Party Candidate! :

[HarperRose]

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Hey, now we can detect the Wi Fi and adjust our paths accordingly!

[Brigianna]

Originally Posted by Justthatgirl

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Hey, now we can detect the Wi Fi and adjust our paths accordingly!

I can see the conversation with the policeman now:

"Ma'am, why are you standing with your baby in the middle of the road?"

"This is where the wi fi signal is strongest."

"But you aren't carrying a computer."

"No, it's for the baby. I'm trying to make her autistic."

"Trying to make her autistic? Could you come with us, please ma'am?"

[HarperRose]

Originally Posted by Brigianna

I can see the conversation with the policeman now:

"Ma'am, why are you standing with your baby in the middle of the road?"

"This is where the wi fi signal is strongest."

"But you aren't carrying a computer."

"No, it's for the baby. I'm trying to make her autistic."

"Trying to make her autistic? Could you come with us, please ma'am?"

:

Clearly, we've all got too much time on our hands... :

[Brigianna]

Definitely way too much time (see my location).

[wonderwahine]

look at mine