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post #21 of 25
2.5 ozs is an awful lot for a newborn, her stomach at 6 days old is designed to only hold around 1.5ozs. Remember, if you are feeding her EBM in a bottle, she is going to be forced so suck and gulp, suck and gulp, which is why bottlefed babies are so easily overfed. She has no control over how much she's taking in, unlike with breastfeeding.

Many women do not respond well to pumps. That doesn't indicate a supply problem! 2ozs during a session is very normal for 6 days post partum. It does sound like your daughter may be developing nipple confusion. I strongly suggest cutting out bottles competely and avoiding pacifiers, too. She may be wanting the let down quicker because of the bottles- you can try pumping for 5 or 10 minutes before nursing so she gets your let down faster. Nipple confusion will also cause nipple cracking and soreness- she may be trying to suck from you as if you're a bottle, which is quite different from a proper suck. It's important to make sure she's properly latched, even if it means taking her off and relatching multiple times. For this reason, it's very important to start offering the breast before she's actively hungry. If you wait until she's crying for milk she's going to be anxious and resistant to your attempts to help her latch correctly.

More than likely your supply is fine, but if she's experiencing nipple confusion and pumping prior to nursing to encourage a quicker let down isn't working, then an SNS with EBM in it can help in encouraging her to nurse.

The suggestion for a chiropractor is good, too! Especially if you had a fast birth, she could benefit from an adjustment.

Have you contacted your local LLL? I think they'd be the best resource for you right now!

Good luck mama, you can do this! And congratulations on your little girl!
post #22 of 25
Hang in there mama, you're doing great! I had to pump, too, in the early weeks, though only on one breast and at first everyone had me panicked that I wasn't producing enough because in the first weeks I'd barely get a quarter of an ounce from 15-20 minutes of pumping. Luckily I had a very supportive husband and mother to get me through the first two months of breastfeeding troubles & my doubts that I'd be able to nurse.
I agree that you should get rid of bottles & any other artificial nipples. Great that you're using an SNS. We also syringe/finger-fed the little bit of milk I was able to pump. And like several previous posters have said, lots of skin contact and just keep working on the latch! It might be tough but don't doubt your ability to nurse your baby and keep working at it - it's so worthwhile in the longrun! You're doing great!
post #23 of 25
You can do this... We did triple feeds for weeks with DD and so I pumped A LOT. Every 2 hours for at least 2 weeks and then a bit less often, but still after every feeding.

What worked for us was to nurse at the beginning of EVERY feeding. We never gave a bottle first. We nursed as best we could and then she'd get a bottle. Do breast compressions when nursing so that she gets more milk coming more easily. The Jack Newman site has some video of how to do it: http://www.thebirthden.com/Newman.html

Keep in mind that all babies take more from a bottle than they do the breast. No idea why, but it's true. I guess because it's easier to get. If you can try an SNS or finger/cup/syringe feeding you'd probably keep up with her easier.

2 oz is a lot for that soon pp!!! I only get that now! Pump for 10-15 minutes then quit. I overpumped and irritated my breast tissue pretty badly. I agree to make sure your cones fit. I had to go up to a 27 mm, but a lot of women need larger than that. Are you using some lanolin to lubricate things?

Rent a hospital grade pump (Medela symphony). That made a world of difference for me on comfort and volume!

It took us 9 weeks to mostly exclusively nurse, but now we are doing so well... Still have some minor latch issues, but dd sleeps, I pump once a day to save for returning to work, we are ONLY nursing... You'll get there!!! I'm so glad I hung in there...
post #24 of 25
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Thank you all SO MUCH. I am planning a day in bed with the baby. We meet with the lac consultant on Monday and I think I am going to see how I do with the hospital pump- I would feel better if I have the means to pump if needed but I am going to try to put her on the boob exclusively. Each day gets a little better emotionally... thank you all again for the advice.
post #25 of 25
I agree that she may be taking in a bit more than what a newborn should get right away...

FWIW: I've been where you are. But this too shall pass, you just have to relax, trust your body, and you will succeed.

Suck Training: Instead of using the bottles use a feeding tube taped to your finger (DH can do this as well), the tube attached to a syringe filled with NO MORE than 1.5-2 OZ of breast milk. After nursing (this is important) on both sides for as long as she wants, burp her and then let her suck on the finger with the tube and gently push the plunger (extremely gently) as she sucks (only as she sucks). Then pump after feeding to get more breast milk for after the next nursing session.

From Dr. Sears:FINGER-FEEDNG

Finger-feeding uses a nursing supplementer to deliver milk while baby sucks on an adult finger. The supplementer's tubing is taped to the adult finger, and the finger is gently inserted in the baby's mouth. You can also use a feeding syringe for finger feeding. Gently insert the tip of the syringe into baby mouth while he sucks on your finger. Depress the plunger to deliver milk when the baby sucks, and pause when the baby pauses.


Your LC should have all this know-how and information as well as supplies for you.

Please stop using bottles. This is probably the worst thing for the nursing relationship right now. I can't imagine why your LC would even recommend this!

I did this routine for the first 2-3 weeks of my DD's life and it saved our nuring relationship. In addition to taking this supplement and drinking lots of tea.

I didn't need to do this after 3 weeks b/c she figured it out, got her mouth strong enough for my humungo boobs and learned how to nurse, and esp. gained weight steadily. I also had flat nipples that she had to overcome as well!
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