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post #1 of 10
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Hi there, I haven't been to MDC in a very long time. But a few things are bothering me and I need some info. I am not sure if this is the place to pos this, if not please move it or let me know.

First thing, my son is 3 years old and is intact and tonight complained of his penis hurting him. Not the tip, not the foreskin, but on the shaft in the middle of the shaft on the side... he says he has a boo-boo on the inside and asked me how did he get the boo-boo get on the inside.

About 1 hour before he was running around naked and retracting himself and touching the tip of his penis. And laughing of course. The glans to me, looked red and purplish (is that normal?) and I asked him, does that hurt and he giggled and said no it tickles. So ok. But later he was grabbing himself and we thought he had to pee, he said he didn't have to pee but that it hurt. My dh put him on the potty anyway and I think he went. And then was a crying a little about the shaft hurting and then he said the above.

We've been having some issues with him and peeing... he seems to pee frequently and drink frequently throughout the day, but yet holding it not wanting to go to be interrupted from what he was doing. I know this is normal behavior to not want to be interrupted so we usually carrying him to the potty and he goes. He seems like he is constantly grabbing himself as if he has to pee, even when he does not.

And the peeing and drinking water is not excessive, just frequent. Since the summer he's had 3 urinalyses to check for glucose or infection and nothing, it all comes back normal.

I took him to his first well child visit in August (yes at age 3 because he is a healthy non-vaxed child who doesn't need to be seen regularly, I only took him in when he broke his leg). Not ever taking him in, lead me to be unfamiliar with the procedures of the well-child visit and I forgot about guarding my son's penis. I had forgotten that they'd want to check his genitals...

So when the stupid doctor removed his pants and before I knew it, yup, you guessed it, the doc retracted it. As he did the half-second retraction I yelled DON'T!!!!! retract it. And the doc kind of froze, lifted his hands up and said I'm sorry I'm sorry, what did I do? I am sorry, I didn't know.. is that for religious reasons (???wtheck???) and I said no, not religious reasons, He is intact and no one is supposed to retract it.

And then the doc goes from taken aback to calm and says oh don't worry, (like he knew what he was doing) and said "Don't worry I have one myself" (I guess meaning just a penis)... but who knows, I wasn't going to ask if he had an intact penis... I think if he did he never would have touched my son. And then he continued to rationalize what he did sort of apologizing but sort of like oh crap, I can't admit a mistake to this lady.

The doc said "well it did retract some on it's on, I never would have pulled it back if it wasn't going to retract, don't worry I never would have pulled it back if it didn't' have some give already." :

So anyway, fast forward to last week, we took my son in for another urine test because he was peeing alot and now has this itchy rash on his butt and legs and I was reading that all of the symptoms, the frequent peeing, drinking and itchy skin could be symptoms of diabetes. My husband took him this time and I think he said the doc asked if he could look at my son's penis and he did, but stupid me didn't tell my husband to NOT let the doc retract it. I thought it was normal for the doc to want to look at the head of the penis to see if there was a problem and I thought that it was ok since the foreskin does retract on its own a little.... I just read something Frankly Speaking posted awhile back about how its never appropriate to let any doc retract for any reason and that any problem on the inside will manifest on the outside.

So now I feel like I let my son down. I feel awful about what happened to him in August and that I let it happen again last week because I wasn't there an was a little uninformed. I am mad at myself, mad at the doctor, and upset. I am confused as to why my son's penis shaft is hurting and what to do.

Any advice? been there done that stories? Next stop is to see another doctor I think. If I can't trust this guy not to touch my son's penis and not know what he was doing, then how can I be confident he knows what the heck he is doing with the peeing issues.

thanks for reading if you got this far.
post #2 of 10
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Originally Posted by lovemygirl View Post
The glans to me, looked red and purplish (is that normal?)
Yes, that is the normal color of an intact penis glans.

The retraction probably doesn't have anything to do with what is going on now. Problems from retraction tend to show up quickly and be right at the tip. Since it sounds like you DS is pretty much retractable anyway it probably didn't hurt him (not that it was ok but YKWIM.)

When they did the urinalyses did they do a baggy, have him pee in a cup or insert a catheter him to get the sample? If they used a cath I would be concerned that it caused his current complaint.

He maybe saying it hurts simply b/c he has sensations that he doesn't understand or have language to express.
post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by eepster View Post
Yes, that is the normal color of an intact penis glans.

The retraction probably doesn't have anything to do with what is going on now. Problems from retraction tend to show up quickly and be right at the tip. Since it sounds like you DS is pretty much retractable anyway it probably didn't hurt him (not that it was ok but YKWIM.)

When they did the urinalyses did they do a baggy, have him pee in a cup or insert a catheter him to get the sample? If they used a cath I would be concerned that it caused his current complaint.

He maybe saying it hurts simply b/c he has sensations that he doesn't understand or have language to express.
no catheter just pee in a cup... My son has the language skills and the ability to discern a painful feeling from a not painful feeling. What kind of sensations would he be feeling inside his shaft that he couldn't explain? Its been erect tons of times and no comments. And when he said it hurt, it was not erect. As I mentioned, when I asked him today if the retraction he was doing hurt he said no, it tickles. He is perfectly capable of expressing himself. If he says it hurts, it hurts.
post #4 of 10
Since it can't be an injury from a cath and he wouldn't be confused by something like an erection, then anything else I can think of causing this should have been found with the urinalyses.

Have you cross posted in Health & Healing? Hopefully in the morning someone with more ideas than me will be up. I'm only up b/c I have a 21 mo insomniac :.
post #5 of 10
Mama,

My thought would be that perhaps he is still not fully retractible and has some adhesions remaining. These could be releasing and this can leave raw spots that can hurt. Perhaps it is just seperation pain.
post #6 of 10
I think he's fine Mama!

His behavior sounds exactly like what my son was doing at that age. Right before he turned 3 we were living in a beach house and he was running around naked all day yanking on his penis, then proceeding to show everyone what he could do with it. He would yank the foreskin back all the way and it looked angry and scary....To me, that is... He was fine and totally in love with his new toy...

After that he was always grabbing at it, and I always thought he had to pee but he was just grabbing it..

FWIW, I had no problem with our Dr. retracting him gently to look at the head. I knew that he could pull it almost all the way back and we talked about it and I watched her. She seemed to be in control of the situation. It wasn't like she was yanking it back (like he did) or anything.

I am sure your son is fine. He's a 3 yold with a fun toy that feels good when he yanks, pulls, rubs, rips, and whatever else they do with that thing.:
post #7 of 10
When my son was 3 he went through the same thing "boo-boo penis" and it ended up being separation. It would hurt him when he peed, and we took him to the doctor too to see if it was a UTI. That was negative. At the time I sent a PM to Frankly Speaking and he talked me through what it most likely was. Sure enough, after a couple of days the pain subsided. DS is still not retractible at all. He has ballooning when he urinates, which tells me that the foreskin has separated, but the tip is still too narrow for him to retract it. I say give it a day or two to see if the pain eases. When the foreskin starts to separate, there will be some pain and irritation, especially when urinating.
post #8 of 10
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thanks everyone. I am glad to know that some of you experienced this, well your little ones. Since that day no more pain and seems back to normal. I had to giggle at the post above that it was his new toy. LOL

BTW I read in a post that Frankly Speaking is no longer a member here... is that true? Where did he go?
post #9 of 10
I'm not sure if he is still here or not. I just looked at my old PM's and when I got help from him it was April 2006. Which was the exact month my DS turned 3. I wonder if this is a very common occurance right around 3 years old then?
post #10 of 10
Here is some information on what to expect with seperation that may be helpful if not know then in the future: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=764732
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