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Preschool teachers say "good girl" and give out lollipops - should I say anything?  

post #1 of 5
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First, if baffles me that anyone trained in ECE could say "good girl" or "good boy" to a child. Do they not learn anything in training?

If it were up to me 100%, I would probably pull dd from preschool, but she adores it and is infatuated with her teacher, and it is nice to have time away from her, as she is hard to handle for me.

Anyway, is there an article I could print off and give to them, or should I just mind my own and let them do things their way?
Dd also came home with two lollipops for being "such a good girl and helping so much" last week. She has about a million cavities.

I also notice when I am there, that the "trouble kid" who gets disciplined the most is also the youngest, and therefore, of course he's going to have trouble following the rules (and imo they have a lot of rules, including one at snack time that if you ask for something before it is offered, you don't get it.

My unschooling nature just can't handle this!!!

I think an article about praise might be good, or maybe something about understanding children.
post #2 of 5
That would bother me terribly! I would definately say something, but I'm not sure what I would say. . .

There was a "bad" kid in DD1's class when she was in the toddler room. I don't know how many times I went to pick her up and all the kids except him where eating smarties as a reward for something or other. It was annoying, but I never knew what to say, kwim?

The snack time rule would really bother me! They CAN'T NOT ask for something that they see! They are children!!!! If they aren't grabbing, the teachers need to realize that they are really accomplishing something!

You might want to talk to the director about their policies regarding praise and snack time rules. It may be that the teacher is unaware that what she is doing is wrong.

I totally understand about not wanting to pull your DC out. I loved my DDs' school until DD1 was promoted to the 3-4yo room this fall. Now, I'm not liking it so much. . . . but she's been there for 2 years now! She loves it!

ETA: I sent a note to the director about my DDs only being allowed to have X amount of candy at school, and to reward with stickers instead. I also offered to provide stickers if necessary. I told them they could send candy home, so DH and I can dole it out as we see fit. This was part of a general "nutrition" note that included strict limitations or sugary cereal, etc.

Good Luck!
--LEE
post #3 of 5
Our preschool is good but the reward stuff at the elem school drives me nuts! My 4th grader gets rewards (candy) for things like doing her math homework. Um, isn't a reward supposed to be for something special, not for doing something that is expected?? Then the school newsletter has an article about obese children and how they should be exercising and not eating candy. So why don't they stop giving them candy at school?? Why not make a reward be extra recess time or a "dance" break or something active??
post #4 of 5
we just pulled our 3 yo from preschool because we ran into too many of these issues.

ds was told that he was a "bad boy" for going to the bathroom in his pants. which he has NEVER done at home since he decided to use the potty about 6 months ago.

so, the good boy/bad boy thing added to the intense scheduling and homework. i mean, he doesn't even recognize the individual letters, why have someone hold his hand to try and write his name? he's not ready so what's the rush?

we live in a really small town (500 people) an hour and a half from any other town so our choices are really limited.

ds likes his "school" but at this stage he really doesn't know what's best.
post #5 of 5
I worked in a preschool for kids with some sort of developmental needs (meaning we had children who maybe for example were preemies or something and experiencing delays they will outgrow, learning disabilities, speech or language challenges but otherwise typical, all the way to children with obvious, lifelong disabilities like Down's or cerebral palsy.)

In the classroom I was in, I know both of us adults tried very hard not to say "good girl/boy". I know I did hear other adults using it and it bothered me. (I won't say we NEVER did it, but it was not a regular part of our vocab.)

We DID do rewards, and the first year I was there, it was a lot of candy. (not a *LOT* of candy at once, but like a Smartie or two or a jellybean was a pretty regular reward.)

At the end of that year though (which I came into the middle of) we did our classroom review, and we discovered (both of us being first year in the program) that one of our 'goals' was supposed to be to use as little praise as possible. (good girl/boy, good job, that kind of thing) (For anyone interested, this was High/Scope curriculum, it's what HeadStart uses. It has a book for classroom staff to go through and rate their classroom, we were required to do it a couple times a year.)

So....out of that came a goal to save our rewards for the 'big' things and rephrase our praise. (like commenting on what we see kids doing instead of "good job' or "I like" etc.) We also used 'alternative' rewards like stickers, special jobs, etc. to candy. (I remember one kid's 'reward'--after a time when I explained the word 'proud' was to hear me say that I was 'proud' of him for something. Still praise, I know, but this was a kid who was really struggling with some things and that was working for him, I think in part because he'd ask me if I was 'proud'--he had learned that new word and was working on applying it and taking 'pride' in himself for being able to apply that word to what he had just accomplished. I think it was almost more him thinking through this word and applying it to what he was feeling too...if that makes any sense.)

Now I'm soon to be on the other side of it, as a mom of a preschooler. I really don't know how I would handle talking to ds's preschool teacher about praise.
The bad boy/girl, I would have to say something---probably pointing out the difference between telling the child they need to do something differently and telling them they are a bad person. (I don't know if I'd go so far as to say this, but my brain would be saying that anyone who believes that a preschool age person is capable of being a 'bad' person already needs to seek other employment.)
I would (at least try to) do it in a way that doesn't come off totally condescending, but assumes that these people may not realize what they are actually saying to the children, and once they do pay attention to it and realize it, they will WANT to change the message they're sending out. (because they, like you, love your kids and want to do the best they can for them--they SHOULD if they're in the right job.)

The candy issue, I would just flat out say what you think is appropriate in terms of food rewards. For me, it would be that I prefer alternatives be used most of the time, and to please let me know when he has candy/sweets/junk in school so that we can talk about it at home and be learning about making healthy choices throughout the day. (like if you eat treats at a party at school, you should choose something healthy for snacking at home.)

(again I think a teacher who cares would change their reward system rather than single a child out--if you don't want your dd to have candy because of cavities, I think I'd change my rewards to not be candy and if a kid asked, I'd use it as an opportunity to talk to the whole class about candy and cavities.)

If the majority of snacks are things like cookies, sweet cereals, etc. I'd be talking to someone in charge--those things are out of the teacher's hands usually. I'd go to whoever it is in charge of buying and budgeting for food, with ideas on how to go fresher for cheap if you've got some.
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