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post #41 of 46
I think that whether Santa is a lie or not depends on how you do it. If your child clearly doesn't believe in Santa and you try to convince him that there is a Santa, that's obviously lying. If you're trying to protect younger children, there's no reason that you can't explain that to your non-believer--that's what my parents did with me and I never ruined it for my sister, even though they were honest about Santa not being real.

I also think that a lot of times when kids ask whether Santa is real, they're not necessarily asking for the black-and-white truth, but for permission to believe in Santa. I remember having my suspicions, but still *wanting* to believe, and I was grateful that my parents let me and didn't ruin the fun. When I felt ready to let go of Santa, I did, and they accepted that. In that sort of situation, I think it's much kinder to respond with "I don't know, what do you think?" than "No, there's no Santa," especially if your child is on the younger side. Sometimes, playing along can be a gift.

It's our responsibility as parents to foster a sense of wonder and joy. I shudder to think of what the world would be like if it were filled with people who had no sense of magic, imagination, and creativity. Done the right way, Santa, the Tooth Fairy, unicorns, whatever, they all lay the foundation for years to come. Clearly, it's also our job to create that same wonder and amazement at 'real' things, and I think that they augment and reinforce each other. Playing along with Santa doesn't mean you're neglecting the power of the natural world. I'd rather have my children grow up surrounded by magic, and have them be able to draw upon those memories later in life.

In our house, we don't do the creepier aspects of Santa--the 'watching you sleep' and the bribery for good behavior. But we act as if Santa were a real person because, really, we're all Santa. And that will be explained to my children when they're ready to move on.
post #42 of 46
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Originally Posted by wonderwahine View Post
to me its not a lie, santa is real (allthough hes dead), and we are all his helpers.
I love this. Thank you!

And, Rachel, I completely agree with you, We're All Santa.

I remember as a child loving the magic of Santa. I remember actually thinking that I heard sleigh bells on the roof of my house. I still get shivers when I think about that. My parents were quite into Santa, too, but then when I got older I remember my mom saying things like, "Santa is whoever you want him to be." Or, "Santa is magic." And I remember pretending that I believed in santa for a long time after I didn't anymore, after I realized that my parents were leaving the presents. I didn't feel resentful at all. I do remember wishing that the magic WAS actually true, that santa DID come and leave us presents, but still, it is such a great memory to have.

One thing I can compare Santa to:
DS has a book about a garden gnome that comes to life and wanders all over the yard and the house, doing kind things for animals and people. We talk about how maybe our garden gnome comes alive at night and does things, and what he might do. To me, Santa is no different than this. We create and discover the magic together. I don't think that DS will be disappointed when he discovers that the garden gnome doesn't come alive at night.

Then again... who knows, maybe he does?
post #43 of 46
I dont see anything wrong with him. Our kids get to sit on hs lap and ask for ONE thing. ONE thing that they really really want. then we make sure they get it. AND he brings a seperate gift unwrapped. They give that unwrapped gift to the children home or our church that then makes sure that a needy child get it. That way everyone learns about giving and what Christmas is all about. Plus I think they enjoy giving their present way more. They make cards and write little notes to the kids who get the presents. =)
post #44 of 46
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Originally Posted by warriorprincess View Post
journeymom- I was three when I found out. My mom tried repeatedly in the ensuing years to make it real again, but I found myself thinking that if she had lied anout that, I had no reasin the believe the things she'd told me about God. I was 9 until I took religion serioudly again.
This is exactly the thing I've always worried about. If I/we perpetuate a lie-- (as in telling someone something we know is not true)even a fun one-- and it is taken to heart, when that child finds that it isn't true, then what? Will it affect that child's trust in me/us; faith in the things that really are important and true to us? :
How do I know if this will be my child? THere. I've said it. (I've always wanted to.) These are just some things I've always thought...
My dc are almost 5, almost 3 and 6 mos. We've never actually said that Santa brings them gifts. We do have one big gift (for the family--big is relative, it's a marble run this yr) set out in front of the tree andthe rest are wrapped from mommy and daddy. The day dc asks, I'll sit him down and tell him the whole spiel. I think you can have magic regardless. I knew (because I caught my parents) from a young age and it didn't affect my fun. But I had a cousin who still believed at twelve and cried when her parents sat her down and told her Santa wasnt real. If my kids wanted to see Santa, I'd be fine with that, too. Just my ???'s and thoughts...
post #45 of 46
This year will be the year our DD 'gets it' My DH & I have looked up the history of Ol' St. Nick, Christmas and how it is celebrated within our heritage. (He's German & I'm Sicilian) We hope to create the magic of the season for our child - I agree it's about pretending.

I was disappointed as a kid to discover 'Santa' wasn't 'real' However, my brother is 11yrs younger than I so I went along with it for him. I remember feeling upset that the magic was gone, not the man in a suit who delievered gifts in the night.

DH & I take our DD to the Reniassance Festival ever year where she sees kings, queens, wizards, knights, fairies... that's all the fantascy. Same for St. Nick. This year, we are embracing the 'Elf on a Shelf' from www.elf-magic.com with our own twists of course. We live in a home decorated with fairies, dragons & gargoyes... an elf is welcome here.

Now, DD won't go ANYWHERE near a mall Santa (or the Easter bunny) - she doesn't trust them & we don't push the matter. Should she ask, we'll tell her an easy version of the legend for her age & let her decside. Are we lying to her? I don't think so. I believe we are providing an opprotunity for her to decside.
post #46 of 46
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Originally Posted by ColwynsMommy View Post
I also think that a lot of times when kids ask whether Santa is real, they're not necessarily asking for the black-and-white truth, but for permission to believe in Santa.
Good point!
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