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post #261 of 581
I'm curious as to the recommendations for introducing solids to formula-fed babies, although obviously that's a whole other forum. But how does this baby-led weaning type of diet fit into a ff babie's eating routine? What about cereal and such?
I'm wondering for advice to give to people I know who ff. (I'm still nursing! and dd is a voracious self-fed eater!)
post #262 of 581
Baby-led solids and formula/bottle feeding can definitely be compatable. Especially if the baby has been bottle-nursed and fed on cue, but even if not, baby led solids are a perfectly appropriate method of feeding.
post #263 of 581
I'm doing BLW with my 7 m/o. He LOVES food and practically does back flips trying to get a bite if anybody is eating around him. He has eaten a wide range of foods already and has accepted all of them with eagerness. The only worry I have is that he seems to shove too much food in at once and has seriously gagged a couple of times. I am nervous to give him anything too long/big now because I'm worried that he will choke. So I have started to cut things up in little pieces and put those on his tray. His pincer grasp is getting there and he'll get the occasional piece in but I help him along by popping the odd piece in his mouth. Is that cheating? . Any suggestions about the size of the food I should be giving him?
post #264 of 581
I wouldn't worry about the gagging AT ALL. It's just gagging; it's a normal, beneficial, protective reflex, and is good practice for getting food out of their mouth they don't want there.

I'd give him either big chunks or little pieces, until his motor skills and eating skills mature.
post #265 of 581
Thanks Arwyn!
post #266 of 581
When did everyone start beans, cheese, egg whites & yolks? I know typically you don't really have to "wait" with BLW with any food, but I try to be careful still. My daughter is almot 7 mo and I would like to start beans. My schedule I relied on with my son before I did BLW says to wait on beans to closer to a year (same with cheese and egg whites).
post #267 of 581
Beans was pretty early, right when he was just starting to develop a pincher grip - still a favorite!

Cheese and other cultured dairy we started, oh, a month or two after he'd started eating? But we don't, like, give him CHEESE - it's just in things he gets (like chicken quesadilla). Same with eggs.
post #268 of 581
We're still somewhat careful - I haven't given DD egg whites yet, for instance, or uncultured dairy, or nuts. But we've been giving her beans for about a month now, and she loves them. As Arwyn said, they're great for practicing the pincer grasp. And DD loves them (she likes anything a bit on the spicy side). We've done black beans and lentils mostly, usually with rice - I just make a dish for DH and me, with the same kind of seasoning/spices I'd use for us, and then she gets some too.

I have given her hard-boiled egg yolk once or twice. And now she's getting to a point where if I were eating eggs around her I might give her some as well, though I don't think I'd go out of my way to make them for her. I've given her bits of cheese too, and the other day she had a few cheese-coated noodles from my homemade mac n' cheese.
As a caveat, I'm not as concerned as some parents might be since we don't have any allergies in our family, and DD has never shown any signs of sensitivities to anything.
post #269 of 581
You have to check out Oscar's broccoli face! He tried it for the first time last night:
http://mercurysunrise.ath.cx/

He actually did end up liking it, but I think was surprised by its taste and/or texture.

Also loves green beans!
post #270 of 581
I'm weaning my dd who will be one this week!! Right now, my boobs are killin' me...I'll be going home to nurse soon.........
post #271 of 581
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I'm weaning my dd who will be one this week!! Right now, my boobs are killin' me...I'll be going home to nurse soon.........
actually, the title of this thread can be misleading for those of us with a US definition of weaning - it's not about weaning off breast milk, just about introducing solids in a different kind of way (letting babies self-feed soft chunks rather than spoon-feeding purees, etc). It's sometimes called baby-led weaning I think because a lot has taken place in Britain, where the term weaning is used more generally to mean introducing anything other than breast milk. (And it's baby-led because it's letting the baby take the lead, follow his/her own interest, explore food more for taste and texture than nutrition at first, etc).

Sanguine_speed, love the photo! DD had a similar broccoli face the first time we gave it to her (and she generally likes it too). Her most hysterical, "what kind of disgusting poison did you give me to try?!?" face was reserved for apple sauce....
post #272 of 581
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Sanguine_speed, love the photo! DD had a similar broccoli face the first time we gave it to her (and she generally likes it too). Her most hysterical, "what kind of disgusting poison did you give me to try?!?" face was reserved for apple sauce....
I loved those photos too, and while DD has never made that face for broccoli, she made Eww whats this face for yogurt, but the funniest part is she was very eager to eat it (still is) but she still makes the face - I think she learned it was funny, I couldn't help it I laughed so hard, especially when she would eagerly go back for more.

I love watching my LO explore new foods and I love watching her preference for food - yesterday I gave her some pear (she was just getting over a tummy virus and we were heading back in slowly after 4 days of just nursing) she wouldn't eat it, love playing with it and feeding me : but was not impressed - so out came some avacado, she devoured it!! But a stray piece of pear made it in her mouth and out came the sour face - she was more careful about what she ate after that.

Anyone else notice prefrences from your LO - how do you handle it do you play short order cook? It's hard when they are still non-verbal, I think I will have to learn the signs for her favorite foods.
post #273 of 581
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CanidFL - My brother would sit at the table for hours by himself because his plate wasn't empty yet and now is very particular about foods. Until he recently had health issues, he didn't eat any fruits and very few veggies. My mother feels awful and if she had it to do over again wouldn't have pushed the issue.
Omg that is so my mom!! And me being the stubborn girl I am went very hungry for a long time. My mom would actually wrap the dinner up and put it in front of me the next night. I wasn’t allowed to leave the table till it was gone. This could go on for a few days and I would just refuse to eat till it went bad. I am 100% positive that I have bad eating habits caused by my mom.

So DS grabbed a pickle off my plate on Saturday and was gumming it! He didn’t swallow anything but it was his first real food. Since then, I have given him a piece of banana and broccoli.

We also gave him some puree in a little dish that he slopped around his high chair then licked off but his face was just horrible. He didn’t like it and I don’t think I will offer it again since it was more of DH’s thing. I don’t really like purees myself and think blended food is gross but DH really wanted to try it.

This is so fun! I know DS is only 5.5 months but he isn’t swallowing the food and seems really eager to play with it so I let him.

Sanguine – that pic is adorable!! I love it.
post #274 of 581
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My mom would actually wrap the dinner up and put it in front of me the next night. I wasn’t allowed to leave the table till it was gone. This could go on for a few days and I would just refuse to eat till it went bad.
Me too... only the rejected food was served for every meal until it was eaten or rotten. There are foods I STILL wont eat as a result.

It's the reason I stumbled into letting dd1 self feed. I just couldn't stand the thought of imposing my own food issues on my dd. I figured I'd let her pick and choose and remove the stress from both of us.

And in other news, dd2 suddenly decided that swallowing was "ok". She ate a bowl of curry rice one grain at a time the other day.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wombatclay/2277722075/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wombatclay/2277718457/

(and no, I usually don't dress her head to toe in pink! We got a huge bucket of hand-me-down items that are all pink and, well... )
post #275 of 581
I thought I would share my pictures I just got off the camera. This is the first "high chair" meal with DS. He didn't actually eat anything but put it in his mouth then spit it out. It was cute and he had a lot of fun.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...rah/solid1.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...rah/solid2.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...rah/solid3.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...rah/solid4.jpg
post #276 of 581
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Originally Posted by sanguine_speed View Post
You have to check out Oscar's broccoli face! He tried it for the first time last night:
http://mercurysunrise.ath.cx/

He actually did end up liking it, but I think was surprised by its taste and/or texture.

Also loves green beans!
Just thought I'd add Willa's yogurt face to the repertoire of "yuck" faces on here...
Along with her "mmmm... I love green beans and hummus" face
post #277 of 581
there are pics of Niamh eating frozen blueberries on my blog. link in my name
post #278 of 581
So yesterday I gave DS my apple core to chew on after I was done with it. I was watching him very closely and he seemed to just chew and suck but not really bite anything off. After about 10 min he got bored and started crying so I picked him up and nursed. Once he was done he started gagging and thrusting his tongue forward. I saw a huge piece of apple skin on the back of his tongue. I tried to get it out with my finger and think I made it worse because then he really started gagging Eventually after a min or so he spit up a bit and it came out.

Is this normal? Should I be more careful with what I gave DS? What do you moms do if they start choking?

I am a little nervous now with self feeding.
post #279 of 581
My daughter HATES touching anything that feels wet, mushy or sticky. She gets a look of utter disgust just from touching it and it usually doesn't go near her mouth. Does anyone have any suggestions for foods that feel mostly dry? I made her some little banana pancakes and she did best with those so far. She also loves paper and dried leaves.

Also, we're being kind of cautious with new foods since DH is allergic to so much, but his only somewhat serious allergy is uncultured dairy. I also have a few very mild food allergies.

Whenever dd does actually try to eat, she still gags and throws up, and the few bits that manage to stay down come out undigested. This keeps me from offering as much as I probably should...
post #280 of 581
Naked Baby LOVES apple cores. Loves apple, period.

What is important to remember is gagging is normal, beneficial, and protective. If baby is gagging, just watch them. Odds are extremely good they'll work it out on their own, and that trying to help by sticking your fingers in there will only make things more likely to go wrong (hey, just like birth! ).

Having food in their mouths even after nursing is pretty normal, although other than tiny pieces I don't think NB has ever done it, but I've heard from lots of moms whose babies do. If they don't want it in there, they'll thrust it out, or gag it up if it's too far back.

The first time Naked Baby had meat, it was at Thanksgiving, not too long after he started experimenting with solids. He absolutely INSISTED I give him my turkey thigh bone. There was still some meat on it, which he loved sucking on. He eventually got a pretty big piece off, and he decided he didn't want it, and it was too far back in his mouth, so he spent about 30 seconds gagging it out. It was a pretty big piece, so it was some pretty impressive gagging. A small part of me was running around in circles in the back of my head yelling and screaming and imagining the worst, but I just sat and watched him, and he got it out eventually, and then went back to gnawing on his turkey bone. Gagging is normal, beneficial, and protective.. Scary, too. But normal.

As for whether you should do anything differently in the future about what you give him, that's entirely up to you and your comfort level. Can you watch him gag, calmly giving him the space he needs to work it out on his own? Or is it going to be way too stressful for you, or are you going to want to interfere?

There aren't right answers. I do believe it's best if we can let babies experiment with food and their bodies, including practicing gagging if they need to, but there aren't right answers. It's up to you, and your comfort level. You don't have to feel completely confident and calm, but it really helps if you can project that to your baby, to tell them you trust them. If you're not there, that's fine. You don't have to give them an apple core just to prove anything.

OK, now I'm just babbling. I hope some of that helped.
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