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post #81 of 581
According to the wikipedia article, the reason not to cut things up is just that is that it makes it harder for baby to handle. When we were starting we went more towards giving him big/whole pieces of things rather than cut them up. That way he didn't get more than he could gum or scrape off with his teeth (once he got some). Of course now he can handle small things pretty easily, likes to pick up single grains of rice and eat them one at a time. :

Also wondering, how many times the babes are really choking as opposed to the gagging that they do naturally. If you wait a second before panicking, you'll find babe has a natural reflex that pushes the food back out. Its alarming at first, but totally normal. From what I read on other forums, some babes do it a lot more than others. Our son has only done that once or twice I can think of, but I remember reading on the babyledweaning.com site (left hand menu, That Gagging Thing) that some were doing it MUCH more often.
post #82 of 581
so we officially tried apples.. he just mouthed it, sucked out some juice, and threw it on the floor.. i'm wondering what people think of raw vs cooked veggies? when you give broccoli, do you give the florets or just stalk?

also, what do people have against spoon feeding?
post #83 of 581
I usually steam veggies if dd2 will be trying them, but not always. Sometimes it's just however we're having that particular item as a family...so for example, last night we all had baked sweet potato spears (cut into wedges, toss in olive oil and salt, bake at about 425 till the edges are brown/crunchy. mmmmmmmm). With broccoli dd1 loved holding the stem and chewing on the florets. DD2 hasn't tried broccoli yet but we'll probably do the same with her.

Spoon feeding- short answer, nothing is wrong with utensils. We've always encouraged dd to use utensils. But if you are loading the spoon, and putting it in your baby's mouth, then you are essentially "running the show". Sort of like giving your little one paints but holding the brush for them to make sure they use the "right" color in the "right" place. You're not letting them explore on their own. Solids during the first year should be about exploring different smells, tastes, textures, temperatures, combinations, etc instead of "calorie/nutrition" and spoon feeding sort of cuts out a lot of that exploration. Also, some people feel that spoon feeding can throw off baby's ability to regulate their intake (baby wants to please you so they eat more, or you are distracting them from their bodily sensations by having them focus on you instead of letting them relate directly with their food) or create a power struggle over food.
post #84 of 581
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post #85 of 581
Not sure if this has been covered yet or not, but how much do you offer, and how many times a day? DS has totally mastered the pincer grasp, and eats absolutely anything I put down in front of him. He loves eating so much, he will come racing over any time I am eating anything and demand some by making his noise for "eat" (totally different sounds than "I want to nurse" btw) and if I don't give it to him, it will end in tears.

Anyway, he is now eating about 3-4 times a day, and he is getting at least as much as his fist is big. I was told that their stomach is about the size of their fist, and to guage their intake on that when it comes to solids. He can easily pack away a quarter of a pear, a whole handful of cheerios, and a tablespoon or three of yogurt mixed with wild rice in the morning, and at lunch, he will eat at least a quarter cup or so of whatever veggie I am having, a quarter or so slice of bread, and at least 6 or 7 bites of meat/protein.

I am not encouraging/tricking/forcing eating solids in any way. He is putting everything in his mouth on his own. I just feel like he is eating so much, and I am not ready for him to be eating this much.

I have tried putting less in front of him, but he gobbles it up and cries for more so quickly. He chews everything, and it is mostly coming out the other end digested, so I think he is doing a good job of chewing.

Anyway, how much do you all give your 9 month old? I was under the impression that solids are just for experimentation right now, but he seems to want at least three "meals" a day.

ETA: I always nurse before offering solids. Generally he will, but at definitw meal times, he will often only nurse for a few seconds and then go play until his food is ready.
post #86 of 581
All babies are different; some really are ready to eat, and eat a lot, as early as that. Is he nursing at night? I'd definitely keep nursing him before solids time, maybe see if you can get him to nurse more before meals, too. (Maybe offer midway through, too, and again after.) Really, though, as long as he is also getting substantial amounts of your milk, I wouldn't woory, and would keep following his cues.

And it's ok to feel sad about it, too.
post #87 of 581
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post #88 of 581
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Originally Posted by Arwyn View Post
All babies are different; some really are ready to eat, and eat a lot, as early as that. Is he nursing at night? I'd definitely keep nursing him before solids time, maybe see if you can get him to nurse more before meals, too. (Maybe offer midway through, too, and again after.) Really, though, as long as he is also getting substantial amounts of your milk, I wouldn't woory, and would keep following his cues.

And it's ok to feel sad about it, too.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. He is definitely a booby monster at night. He will nurse easily 6-8 times throughout the night. He will also go through periods at night where he will only sleep with my nipple in his mouth so he can sip/sleep/sip/sleep for a few hours at a time. My milk supply has dipped a bit during the day, but I am pretty sure I am a milky mama all night long, as I can feel my breasts start to fill up around bedtime.

I guess as long as I am following his cues and letting him do what he wants/needs to do, then he should be just fine. I just wasn't expecting him to be eating like this so soon. I don't know any other mamas IRL who's babes are eating such large amounts of food that is "chunks". I swear, this kid can eat anything an adult with a full set of teeth can eat, and he only has one tooth! :
post #89 of 581
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my now 7m old ds has been self feeding since hr was 4.5 months (i thought it was young too, but he was doing it!)
post #90 of 581
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Originally Posted by iris777888 View Post
According to the wikipedia article, the reason not to cut things up is just that is that it makes it harder for baby to handle. When we were starting we went more towards giving him big/whole pieces of things rather than cut them up. That way he didn't get more than he could gum or scrape off with his teeth (once he got some). Of course now he can handle small things pretty easily, likes to pick up single grains of rice and eat them one at a time. :

Also wondering, how many times the babes are really choking as opposed to the gagging that they do naturally. If you wait a second before panicking, you'll find babe has a natural reflex that pushes the food back out. Its alarming at first, but totally normal. From what I read on other forums, some babes do it a lot more than others. Our son has only done that once or twice I can think of, but I remember reading on the babyledweaning.com site (left hand menu, That Gagging Thing) that some were doing it MUCH more often.
I haven't had a chance to read the article, but I will. It makes sense that cutting the food would make it harder to pick up. Ds has mastered tiny bits of slippery banana though. About the gagging. I know that when ds gags on his food if I wait a second he brings it up and all is fine. The 2 times that I panicked and stuck my finger in his mouth I scared him and he started screaming. Lots of times he gags, my heart stops, and then he brings up whatever it was and continues eating...like nothing happened. He actually usually laughs about it.
post #91 of 581
In our home..we didn't intorduce food until DD was 7+months.... now she is 11m and starting to feed herself..she picks up diced carrots and loves them... i did CLW with DS2 and he did it around 2 years old.. which was fine with me
post #92 of 581
About the 9mo who is eating so much... DD was eating huge quantities "early" as well. And she would SCREAM if you were eating and she wasn't getting any!

But expect that to come and go. More recently she's been much more 'dainty'. She still loves to eat, but isn't as ravenous. We're actually more often surprised at how *little* she eats. Loves a huge variety of things, but not huge quantities right now.

She's gone back and forth like this a few times. Sometimes eating is more exciting, I guess lol...
post #93 of 581
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Originally Posted by wombatclay View Post
I usually steam veggies if dd2 will be trying them, but not always. Sometimes it's just however we're having that particular item as a family...so for example, last night we all had baked sweet potato spears (cut into wedges, toss in olive oil and salt, bake at about 425 till the edges are brown/crunchy. mmmmmmmm). With broccoli dd1 loved holding the stem and chewing on the florets. DD2 hasn't tried broccoli yet but we'll probably do the same with her.

Spoon feeding- short answer, nothing is wrong with utensils. We've always encouraged dd to use utensils. But if you are loading the spoon, and putting it in your baby's mouth, then you are essentially "running the show". Sort of like giving your little one paints but holding the brush for them to make sure they use the "right" color in the "right" place. You're not letting them explore on their own. Solids during the first year should be about exploring different smells, tastes, textures, temperatures, combinations, etc instead of "calorie/nutrition" and spoon feeding sort of cuts out a lot of that exploration. Also, some people feel that spoon feeding can throw off baby's ability to regulate their intake (baby wants to please you so they eat more, or you are distracting them from their bodily sensations by having them focus on you instead of letting them relate directly with their food) or create a power struggle over food.
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We give steamed or raw veggies depends on what's cooking for our dinner.
DD loves raw carrots to teeth on, we just peel it and hand over a big piece. She loves steamed Sweet potato - just haven't been baking any lately.

DD just yestered spoon fed herself, we usually load the spoon and let her decide whether to eat or not. Well last night I apparently wasn't fast enough because she reached out and scooped up food with her spoon. I was floored and she looked at me like it was nothing new
post #94 of 581
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post #95 of 581
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I could add that I was really concerned about giving ds the fry shape food at first and I was cutting his food into teeny tiny pieces. But now he is handling the fry shape really well. Well, I think he was before too, but it freaked me out too much. So maybe I should say that I am handling the fry shape better now!

When do you start giving meat? He basically is eating whatever we are...he had spicy garlicky huumus yesterday and loved it, but I don't want to overload his system..he's only just 8 months.
post #96 of 581
Subbing...dd2 is 8 mo and still EBF but we plan on BLW when she is ready. I guess, not yet.
post #97 of 581
We're taking a short break from solids right now. DD has showed very little interest in anything I've put in front of her. Our first try with avocado went well but she liked it less and less after that. Plus, she's gagged on just about everything she's put in her mouth. And when I gave her a big hunk of banana to suck on she bit off a huge chuck (no teeth!) and I was a little nervous about her choking/gagging on it. I know there's a big difference between choking and gagging, but she's gagged on just about everything she's put in her mouth... including a miniscule piece of banana!

Anyway, just wanted to post an update. I suppose we'll try again in a few weeks. :
post #98 of 581
We've taken a break from solids for a few weeks too, despite the fact that DD loves them, just because she's been having such crazy poop issues - for the last couple weeks she's been pooping easily 7-8 times a day, including once or twice at night, which she hasn't done since she was a newborn. First we thought it might have to do with giving her solids - now i dont think it did, since she hasn't had any for a couple weeks - but we're still holding off since the pooping is giving her a red sore bottom for the first time, and it seems like having chunks of solids to get out might be even harder.

In general, though, I also did steamed veggies for the most part - DD still doesn't have teeth, and those seemed soft enough that she could gum off small chunks. And once I did bake sweet potato spears and she LOVED them. Still her favorite thing we've offered her (well, maybe a close runner-up to the Chipotle's guacamole).

Also curious when people started giving their LOs meat, and also wheat (in the form of toast). My mom mentioned that toast was one of my favorite things from pretty early on, and it seems like it could be a good thing to spread some of the more slippery foods, like avocado and banana on (she can pick them up ok, but sometimes they just become a squishy slippery mess). I'm not really worried about food allergies, but I know a lot of people hold off on wheat for a while... Would doing something like toasted oatmeal bread be better?
post #99 of 581
So far I have offered 10 mo dd just about everything I eat, she has had meat, yogurt, noodles, fruit, and a bunch of other stuff in her mouth, but if she gets it in the back of her mouth she gags it up and if she doesn't get it out or I don't get it out she throws up. I think she's maybe not ready yet. Although she did swallow a ladybug a couple of months ago without gaging, maybe she's just going to be a bug eater! She mostly just likes to play with food for now.
post #100 of 581
MY DD is 11 mos. We introduced solids at 6 mos (no interest), 7 mos (no interest), 8 mos (no interest)...finally at 9 mos she was up for it. Now at 11 mos, she is still 85% mummymilk, and goes through stages of what she'll eat.

Two weeks ago she loved cheese, now she just tosses it on the floor.

She likes avacado, she hates avacado, she likes avacado, she hates avacado...argh!!!! lol

Anyway, my DP gave her whole wheat toast with some butter and she loved it (of course!), and we only use organic (but not raw). I wasn't going to put butter on anything for her. I gave her toast this morning and put cream cheese on instead...she loved this as well. Hmmm..what is more unhealthy? LOL

What does everyone here do? Do you ever put a smidge of butter on the broccoli? On toast? On the mashed potatoes? Thoughts?
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