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post #21 of 33
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Willy tries to thumbsuck too, just hasn't figured it out yet! He was thumbsucking in the womb though, we saw it on US!

I don't care about the AP stance either, I was just curious. Some AP people seem to have strict rules and regulations, I just wanted to hear where they stand.

I use the Soothie in the car (I too do the whole arm behind me while driving). -sucks. I am using it tonight too. He is totally gassy or reflux, I haven't figured it out. He wants to suck, but doesn't want anything coming out. Poor thing. I have OAL too, so he practically drowns when I let down. I tried the positions on Kellymom, but none of them really worked for me?!

I am going to buy a gum drop paci tomorrow. The shape seems to be a little easier for baby to "hold on" to. We shall see. I am tired of holding the Soothie!
post #22 of 33
Are you block nursing, Bonnie? That helped my OAL way more than the positions.
post #23 of 33
I love the gum drop pacifiers. They are VERY light in weight and made the most sense to my EBF baby to swich between. Check out http://www.gumdroppacifiers.com They are awesome!
post #24 of 33
Bonnie--I have OAL/high supply as well and he tends to do that on/off thing mostly in the evenings and I switch back and forth w/ the soothie while holding him in nursing position. Usually after the 5th time I can pop the soothie out and get him to latch and he settles down enough to nurse to sleep. For the car, I use the wubba nub horse soothie and tuck one of the "arms" underneath the carseat straps and that seems to keep it in place, allow him to spit it out if he wants to and allows me to find the durn thing acrobatically at stop lights.
post #25 of 33
I agree that it is certainly more AP to give a paci than to let a baby who can't breastfeed at the precise moment cry. We offer the paci only out of the house (in the car mostly) but he will only take it about 25% of the time. At home he will sometimes find his fingers to suck, but he doesn't seem to realize he can move his arms when he is in his car seat.
post #26 of 33
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I did get a gum drop paci today. I had to use it in the car already, and it went okay. I still had to hold on to it, but he was quiet long enough for me to get somewhere to nurse him.

He nurses pretty constantly in the evening until bedtime. That is the time my DH is gone studying so I do have to put him down sometimes! He won't use the paci unless I am holding him, so it doesn't help when I have to use the bathroom or help DS1 with something! Oh well. This is such a fun stage and I know all too well how quickly it goes by!

post #27 of 33
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Originally Posted by bygones75 View Post
Are you block nursing, Bonnie? That helped my OAL way more than the positions.
Where can I find info on block nursing? I don't know what it is?! I am a dork!
post #28 of 33
Check kellymom for oversupply/block nursing. Basically you just feed from one side anytime the baby wants to nurse in a 2-3hour stretch, so if they nurse at 8am, feed left side, want to feed again at 930am=left side, 1015am= left side, 1130am=right side 130pm= right side. Not sure if that makes sense! I kind of go by how full I still feel after a feeding as to whether I switch sides for the next time.
post #29 of 33

Natural Pacifiers

Do any of you know any good all-natural pacifiers? I have been looking on the internet and the only good ones I see are Natursutton pacifiers. Has anyone used these or know of any other good ones?
Dh and I do not want to give dd a pacifier but she really calms down when she sucks. We have never given her one-just our knuckles or finger so far. We would NEVER give her one made of yucky ingredients though so I am just weighing my (natural) options.
The Natursutten pacifiers are made from pure, natural rubber from the tree Hevea brasiliensi. Also there is no artificial color,no chemicals softener; parabens, PVC, phtalates and BPA (bisphenol-A) free.
post #30 of 33
We couldn't comfort nurse, because of oversupply--my little guy would have drowned or exploded. Even with block nursing. So, the paci helped a lot.

But, I only let him use it when I knew he was full.

Now he's figured out how to suck on his fists and seems to prefer them if he's just in the mood to suck. So, the paci is mostly a car seat thing.

We use the Avent silicone ones from K-mart :
post #31 of 33
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Originally Posted by heatherfeather View Post
Check kellymom for oversupply/block nursing. Basically you just feed from one side anytime the baby wants to nurse in a 2-3hour stretch, so if they nurse at 8am, feed left side, want to feed again at 930am=left side, 1015am= left side, 1130am=right side 130pm= right side. Not sure if that makes sense! I kind of go by how full I still feel after a feeding as to whether I switch sides for the next time.
Thank You! You did make sense. I will check Kellymom for more info too.

He is liking the gumdrop paci when in dire straights and when he wants to comfort nurse and I am flooding! He will still use the Soothie too. They have the same nipple, so he doesn't mind switching. He is sucking his fist and I know he is trying to find his thumb. I hope he finds it soon, so much more easy IMO!
post #32 of 33
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Originally Posted by Banana731 View Post
a carseat is an artifical intrusion into a baby's world, so maybe an artifical soother is an appropriate balancer. besides, a big part of AP is responding to you baby's cries or distress immediately to foster a trusting relationship, so letting a baby scream in a car seat is way less AP than a paci.
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Originally Posted by HeatherB View Post
Much agreement here... I believe a pacifier in the car is much more AP than not having one just for the sake of not having one. I also make rules about when it is used, specifically that it is only for when the baby is fussing, NOT ever to be used with a happy baby. Teaching this to the 3yo has been a little tricky, but we're getting there!
This sums up my feelings on pacifiers (or soothers, or susses, as they're called around here). I even have a 3 yo who loves to try to give the soother... and then says "he doesn't need a bottle" and take it away... and then give it again... repeat ad infinitum.

I didn't use them with my first three, as I was really worried about nipple confusion (with my first) and had generally happy babies and a flexible schedule (with my second and third). I have a couple of soothers now for emergency use. One comes with us in the car. He's usually happy sucking my finger in the carseat (it's rare that I drive on my own with R, so I sit beside him most of the time) but, to be honest, I worry about germs, especially at this time of year (and I'm usually pretty laissez-faire when it comes to germs). I wash my hands constantly in the daytime, but when we're out and about, it's much harder, and I have a 3 yo whose nose is constantly running & needing wiping. Also, the kids copy what I do with R, and I don't want them randomly sticking their fingers in his mouth (I know at least one of them has a hard time remembering to wash his hands after using the bathroom). But, R often won't take it. And I have a personal dislike of them. I really do understand why people use them, but I just have a gut dislike of them, I'm not sure where it comes from. Before I bought any for R, my oldest thought they were "baby plugs" to stop the baby from making noise.

I've had oversupply issues with my first and fourth -- they were also the gassiest (I assume as a result of the extra milk) and fussiest. But I felt in those situations, it was important to keep trying to have them nurse for comfort, so my breasts would get with the programme and my supply would even out. And since I had problems starting breastfeeding with my first, I really didn't want to introduce artificial nipples. I popped the baby off (usually the baby did it himself) when I had a letdown while the baby was comfort nursing, let the milk dripped until it stopped (prefolds are handy for this), and then kept nursing. I think it also gave the baby a chance to learn the difference between nursing-to-get-milk and nursing-to-get-comfort, and eventually I didn't have to pop him off to let the milk drip because he wasn't triggering a let down when he didn't want one. That was a relief.

We've never dealt with reflux, though -- only one of my babies really spit up much at all (this baby burps long and loud, but it's just noise, no milk, except maybe once every few days). I can imagine I wouldn't want to just wait around for my breasts and baby to figure each other out if reflux were an issue.
post #33 of 33
Could someone tell me more about the gumdrop paci? Why are they scented?
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