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post #1 of 44
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hi all, my beautiful baby boy has been born!!! i am sooo utterly in love, more than i EVER thought i could be. i will fill you in on more but here are a little tidbits to sum it all up:

Sheamas Bodhe was born at 4:08pm on monday 11/26. and...i DID IT MAMAS!!!!!!!! it was a successful VBAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

went to the birth center and met w/ my MW. she wasn't comfortable w/ all the thick greenish/brownish meconium in the AF that kept gushing... i was having ctx's consistently upon waking at 3:30am and water breaking. they were 10 mins apart, then once i got o birth center around 4:30am they were 5 mins apart...then closer. i agreed to transfer to the hosp. it is known as a good one here in bend. MW went w/ me......to make a long story short, she provided me w/ such loving stable labor support the whole time, til after Sheamas was born. i love my MW!!! my mom and megh stayed the whole time too.

the dr. who was on call was so-so and thankfully went off shift at 7am. she was looking tired and annoyed...i had an awesome nurse from 7am til 7pm so the same one was there for his birth. she was so sweet. the dr. who came on i totally feel is a gift from the goddess as i have heard of her before. she let me do my thing. i labored and labored til i couldn't take the pain anymore...baby had turned OP. MW suggested some narcotics to take the edge off. i at first was floored she would suggest that but now i feel she was intuitive about my pain tolerance and i don't resent her for that...it helped more when i went for an epidural. i was feeling like a wimp and like i was not going to wind up VBACing........but you know what, the anesthesiologist who gave me the epidural was awesome at that art and it provided me w/ some incredible relief where i still could feel the pressure of ctx's on my rectum and it was just perfect. i started pushing around 11am or so i think-i had progressed to 10 cm so fast...i kept hearing that guns and roses song "running like a freight train, riding like a hurricane..." then decided to labor down as much as i could (which means i now know, not pushing...). but that didn't last long. i wanted to push more... maybe it wasn't 11am when i started pushing...maybe it was 1pm...i'll have to find that out. so anyway...was getting good leverage and baby was moving down...i could feel him moving down and pushing off w/ his feet. it was amazing. all i kept wanting was to have him to relieve the HUGE feeling i had to take a giant poop...i hate being constipated and this one topped the cake. i can't believe how you feel it all in your rectum like that!!! i didn't have that experience w/ megh as i never progressed that far and had a ceserean eventually...so anyway, i kept asking the dr. and nurse if he was moving down, if it was looking promising and they said yes. whew. wonderful! so i kept going for it and pulling on my knees w/ feet up on the squat bar to stablize me and sometimes pulling back on my knees w/ feet up. chin to chest, took many breaths real deep and then held it as i pushed out and up of my rectum. finally, Sheamas was born. the crowning was something else!!! holy cow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! once his head was out i knew he was going to come out and i'd feel relieved as i've seen so many mamas as a doula be...i was right. they asked me if had wanted to feel his head and i turned it down (wish now i hadn't...) but all i kept thinknig about was i wanted some ice cold water to drink since all i was allowed were drops of water and ice chips...sorry but it wasn't cuttin' it! so i was just looking forward to that water sooo badly. i think i kept the cold washcloth over my eyes too i was sooo determined to just birth him and get that water. i felt him slip out of me and wow, it was amazing. meghan and my mom were witness and the staff were all so amazed at my dd watching and waiting in there for 11 hours...she is so amazing.

i didn't mind that Sheamas was taken to the warmer and i didn't hold him for about a half hour or maybe less. he needed his cord cut right away and i didn't feel bothered by that either...i knew they were going to be doing all this due to the meconium. thankfully the mec had thinned out a lot towards the end...boy did i have a LOT of AF in there!!! he didn't cry just kinda of grunted and sing songed...which is good as they didn't want him too worked up w/ the mec in his system. he is very healthy and doing great!!!!!!! all his CVC tests and blood gas tests came up fine......he sounds much better and i'm so blessed because he could be much worse.

he is soooooooo absoluely beautiful. i will post pics tomorrow..........i'm hurting and oh i had a 3rd degree tear. dr. was talking episiotomy at one point and i said noooooo! it may have been a good idea but either way i'm ok w/ how it all turned ou. thankfully the tear didn't go into my rectal muscles but i'm also very swollen and bruised on my labor and rectum. it HURTS. i even said to my MW that i thought there was something in my butt.....i had her look and she got the dr. nothing in there, just was swollen big time and dr. was worried a possible hemotode (i think that is what it is called) was there due to the trauma and such but thankfully there isn't one and i didn't need surgery for that...phew! i'm so glad i could feel the birthing..................................i feel like sending the anesthesiologist a thank you card cuz really that is a big deal for me.

oh...and did i mention Sheamas was 10 lbs, 7 oz and 21.5" long? yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! woop! woop! he is a BIG BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he's nursing like a champ, my milk came in on day 2 and i love my little man.

i'm a bit emotional re. my mother at times and our relating, and also about how megh was tonight. i hate myself for telling her to shut her mouth a few times cuz i don't normally talk that way to her. i know she is just excited and also needing me emotionally and physically but omg sometimes she is so RUDE and i ask her to keep it down and not wake Sheamas and she keeps going and makes a big to-do and anyway i feel just awful cuz i lost it w/ her and threatened to spank her and she was so upset w/ me....i don't blame her. but i'm alone here and she really pushes me so far it upsets me and i'm hurting so much physically that i couldn't take it anymore. now i'm protective w/ TWO children and very much so w/ Sheamas where i didn't think i would be.........i feel like a horrible mother. our first night home and i lose it on my precious dd and become this monster in response. soooo i'm going to get into some therapy for myself ASAP as well as some for megh. i can't keep losing it w/ her like that. she was so upset and then i logged on here to write to all of you sobbing my eyes out for my guilt and pain around that. can anyone relate to this? man oh man...................a person can only take so much. megh is a master at pushing me and going in the opposite direction behaviorally when what she wants is just my love and attention and affection. i'm going to go wake her up if she's fallen asleep and hold her and tell her i'm sorry and i was wrong for responding that way and to please try harder at being patient w/ me and loving. god i love my children soooo much. i don't ever want megh to feel i don't love or want her. or that she is 2nd to Sheamas or any of those feelings.......i would imagine she fell asleep in there feeling that way.............................and that SUCKS. i'm not perfect...especially when i'm in pain or wanting my son to stay asleep and not hear some tantrumatic 5 yo sister of his being so rude and loud. ugh.

anyway...........so that is my scoop for now. going to go back and sleep. pics tomorrow. i feel like such a sh*tty mom to meghan now. i hope i can forgive myself. i am so blessed w/ these 2 beautiful precious children.................
love,
lisbeth
post #2 of 44
You are awesome, congratulations on your VBAC!! I hope you heal nicely emotionally and physically as well. You and Meg and new Sheamus will find a whole new life together, give it time.
post #3 of 44
Amazing VBAC birth mama! Way to go & welcome baby Sheamas. Keep in mind that those PP hormones are a roller coaster & it's tough to always be rational when you are so bruised & raw physically & emotionally.
post #4 of 44
Congratulations Lisbeth! What a great birth story! I am so glad you got your VBAC. Welcome to the world, Sheamas!
post #5 of 44
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: thanks mamas!!! i wore my birth beads from this DDC the whole time, btw. thank you for being there w/ me.
i love you all so dearly!!!
post #6 of 44
First congrats on your Big man and both of you comeing through this very hard thing well.

Second, I respect your choice to parent peacefully but please do not take everything on yourself like this. Your child does deserve respect and kindness but at the same time she deserves boundries and a firm mother. She is amazing and wonderful and a CHILD. Not a small adult. It is said we teach others how to treat us and your daughter some how thinks it is ok to be so rude to you and her brother. Yes the reasons are important but I think you have to address the behavior right away and have tools to do it or you will snap and go nuts. Can I ask what you do for behavior correction normally? I ask because I only tend to get snappy when I am really drained, hurting, and can not recall the responce I should give. Such as if my daughter is snotty, I mark on our caladar an X and then turn off the TV as she lost if the day, she gets more snotty, I make another for the day after and so on. I then let her know when she gets her TV time back and what things I would like to do with her but only after she respects me and shows me by doing something kind like picking up the clothes to put in the laundry room. Much better then me yelling at her to go to her room.

I will say we unschooled for a few years, very radical even, but in the end with some help from others we saw our daughter needed more structure and less choice and the chance to be a kid, not small adult. I mention this as it was such an attitude issue for us and got so much better so much faster when we changed things.

No matter what, I wish for you both the best!
post #7 of 44
Lis, I am not in your ddc, as you know- But I am so happy to hear about Sheamas' birth!! You did great mama, I love you!!
post #8 of 44
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Originally Posted by jrojala View Post
Lis, I am not in your ddc, as you know- But I am so happy to hear about Sheamas' birth!! You did great mama, I love you!!
jazz, i am SO GLAD you just looked me up on here!!!!! i sent you a PM...looks like you beat me to the punch reading the birth story...hee! how funny...email me, ok? i love you too mama. you rock.
post #9 of 44
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Originally Posted by Kontessa View Post
First congrats on your Big man and both of you comeing through this very hard thing well.

Second, I respect your choice to parent peacefully but please do not take everything on yourself like this. Your child does deserve respect and kindness but at the same time she deserves boundries and a firm mother. She is amazing and wonderful and a CHILD. Not a small adult. It is said we teach others how to treat us and your daughter some how thinks it is ok to be so rude to you and her brother. Yes the reasons are important but I think you have to address the behavior right away and have tools to do it or you will snap and go nuts.
thanks. and thanks also for responding to my dilemma w/ megh and also w/ my own attitude in how i respond to her...and yes, it IS when i'm hurting, exhausted and/or totally stressed out to the max emotionally. i will work on this and get myself some help this week psychologically and for parenting megh as well.

i feel just awful. i hope the times in her life i have lost it she doesn't let wreck her esteem or trust in me. she knows i'm not perfect but god, i feel horrible when i'm not, let me tell ya. this is going to be quite an adjustment having 2 kids and one being 5 and one being a newborn. i can dwell in this awful guilty sh*tty place or i can get help for our family and move on. i'll do the latter. ugh. ok come on lis..........stop it and let it go and look to better responses as a mama.

what would you do if say, while in bed all 3 of you, like our scenario, and you told your dd to lower her voice or stop yelling as her baby bro is sleeping and she would not after telling her once. would you take away something she was looking forward to or......? i hate to take away ice skating lessons that are coming up.........i can't think of what else to take away. i hate being punitive too. but this radical unschooling way is not working for us. megh takes advantage of it and says 'i can do what i want when i want'. i keep telling her no, that way has changed. poor kid. i guess i could say that one thing on your christmas list, you won't be getting???
thanks kontessa..thanks mamas.
goodnight. i'm really logging out of here this time to sleep.
post #10 of 44
Victory! Congratulations on your VBAC--what an incredible accomplishment!

Prayers for you new family as things settle
post #11 of 44
Yaaay! Congrats!
post #12 of 44
(((Hugs))) Your a great mother. When I am feeling badly about not winning the mother of the day award I try and remember my childhood and how I thus turned out. My daughter never had the pain I did and I am so happy about that. She has her own pains, but nothing like the trama I had. I can tell you at 8 years old she has never told me she hates me. We have a wonderful relationship and I do not believe and single poor day on my part will change that.

As for taking TV away, there is science and experience behind it. The way TV effects the brain and how it numbs our children to real feelings and cause and effect. When we turn the TVs off in the house for a week or two, all of us feel better and bond so much better and take better care of one another. We need less TV time and our daughters acting up tells us this and gives us a reminder to turn it off. She also knows that if she is super good and goes above what I ask of her, she gets TV time back for special movies or shows. So when she losses TV, for her it is not hopeless as she knows she has power to change it.

As for your bed situation, that is out of my experience. My DD is 8 and never was much into co-sleeping. She was not a baby that wanted to be heald. We joked that we woke her up at night and so she wanted space. LOL She slept better in our room but not bed. Our son was very different but even he got to sleep on his own in our room at 8 months. This baby too will choose her time to sleep on her own. I can say that from time to time I get all the kids in bed with me and if the olders are not acting well I will take them to their room and read for a while or play a game and then let them know I need to go to bed with baby and they need to sleep so we can play more in the morning. They are ok with this as they know I will play and they love that. Not to mention my son needs his bed time and will ask for it if we are running behind.

How mamas go to bed with their olders is beyond me. I like my night time, quiet time with them in bed and it is just baby and I. But then other mothers get quiet morning time and I am really not a morning person!

Anyway, happy to talk to about all this as I have been there. And I still hit those hard times since being pregnant and now with baby and hormones and No guy or anyone, around to help. I need sleep!

I need to take some more NVC classes in parenting. I love peaceful parenting and I know my daughter and I thrive on it, but as the kids grow and change I need to update my tools. NVC uses no punishment and I want to find my way back to that but think TV taking away will always be a tool as it tends to work here without heated emotions but good results. I think it works for things like chores as well. If I do not get my work done then I have no time for TV, same with the kids and everyone NEEDS a job. Even the dog. Dogs without jobs get into trouble. So you give the dog a job, like chasing the bad grackle birds out of the yard! LOL My 2 year old is in charge of finding trash in the house and putting it in the trash can. He follows me when I am eating so he can put things like my yogurt container in the trash for me. hehehehehe He loves his job.

Another thing we learned fast after unschooling, rythem is so important. Try to keep each day much like all of them. Get up, have breakfast, circle time, get dressed for the day, homeschool time, lunch time, nap time for toddler, craft time for DD and 8, toddler up, snack time, play time, dinner time, clean up the house time, quiet play time/TV time, reading time, toddler bed time, special time with DD, DD bed time. Mommy clean up time and then mommy free time. I sneak in a lot of internet time into that for me too! But thats about what most days look like besides mondays, (toddler play group/shopping day) and Fridays where DD homeschool co-op/errand afternoon) and Tuesdays are Choir but that fits in well actually and just puts DS an hour past bed time and very happy to get to sleep when we get home. Then Sundays are church and the kids like all the social time they get, as do I! But really, most every week looks the same and my DD knows what to expect and my son can FEEL when it is about time for a change in activity, like he knows right after lunch is nap and is very ok with that, happy even! We came up with it all by watching the kids and recording what they did and how they felt and acted for a few weeks, then tried different things at different times and then found a system that works for all of us. It will change I am sure, as our parenting will need to as well.

As parents we are always learning and changing, just like our kids.

I could be wrong about all this, I have been before, but my daughter trusts me to do my best, change when need be, and keep her informed.

When you wake megh up and explain you are sorry, please make it clear what she did was not ok either, it is her job to help and be a good big sister. She has a job and just needs help knowing what it is and how to do it I think. YOU have needs too and she needs to know what they are. She acts out for reasons, you did too! Lots in common and both need help getting those needs met. Tell her what yours are and she might have ideas of her own even. My daughter likes to bring me drinks while I am feeding baby and she likes to sit near me and try and burp the baby. (I think she is better at it then I am! LOL) My 2 year old even sits near me and pats baby on the back to help and he finds so much joy in this job.

Wow am I long winded tonight. Baby is sleeping a foot away from me and I have TWO hands. I can not sleep right now though for some dang reason. -sigh-

Anyway, you are a great mother, you seak help, and it will all come out in the wash.
post #13 of 44
Congradulations Lisbeth, sounds like everything was a total success for you!
Can't wait to see pictures of the little dude!
post #14 of 44
I'm tired and wiped out emotionally so I feel like I can't send you the right vibe. But believe me, I am so jumping up and down that you had a successful VBAC and a great big, healthy boy to cuddle up to. I scanned Kimmy's first post and it makes sense about Megh too. Wish I could give you more advice, I am just wiped out. My mother has completely sucked me dry right now I think. Blahhh...

Hugs, mama!
post #15 of 44
Oh, Lis, before I forget, how do you pronounce "Bodhe"? And what does it mean? I'm sure it's something old & traditional, but it's not one of the ones I've seen before
post #16 of 44
Congratulations! I'm soooo glad you got your VBAC and what sounds like an awesome birth. Hope you heal quickly and feel better soon. Be gentle with yourself--it's a big adjustment to go from one to two kids, isn't it?!

Good job on your big boy!
post #17 of 44
Wow - that's a big boy! Congrats and good luck with your new family.

for the adjustments you're going through with megh.
post #18 of 44
good for you.. congrats, what a big boy esp vbac..yay
post #19 of 44
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!! Welcome baby boy!!!!!!!!
VBAC's birth stories always rock!!!!!!!!!
post #20 of 44
Yay and congratulations! SO GLAD you got your VBAC!!!! I have been thinking about you and hoping that the news would be good. Rest and take care of yourself.
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