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post #1 of 14
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I can't sleep and I don't want to wake DH up. It's been 4 days (technically since it's 12:24 am right now) since my brother killed himself. The first night I thought I had let it all out. I sobbed to DH for hours. I was empty of tears and emotions. I could answer fine if someone asked me. But I can't right now and I don't want to. I don't have an older brother anymore. I am now the second oldest child in my family.

I don't want the sympathetic looks and pats on the shoulders. I don't want people looking at me with "knowing" eyes. I don't want asked how I'm doing with that under tone I'm sure we all know. I just want to forget it and have everyone else forget it as well. On the other hand though I want someone to genuinely ask me, not out of pity, how I'm doing and just listen. Dh was awesome that first night. He didn't say anything. He just let me unload but now I feel like I need someone else. I think I'll call my SIL in the morning and see if she can't come talk to me. Her ex husband comitted suicide not too long ago so she shoulld be able to get to my level at least.

I just want to forget. I wish I didn't have to be in this state of mind. I don't get the luxury of having the pain fade away or of forgetting. I had a nephew born the same day he did it. Every birthday that sweet baby has is just another marker, another year for me to remember my brother. And the fact that he was so lonely and sad and feeling unloved that he thought he would be better off not here.

He left a note. While I know what it says a part of me wants to see it. To see his words and his writing. To connect in some morbid way to the last little bit of him that is around. To see and feel to some extent that anguish he must have been feeling. I won't though. I am not about to ask anyone if I can see it. I'm sure it's been tossed by now anyway.

On the plus side this has helped me to forgive him for the abuse. He doesn't know that though.

Do you know I can't think of the last time I talked to him..in person or on the phone. I can't think of the last time I saw him. I do know though that I didn't say I love you and that I teased him about being a love puppy and being sensitive and wanting love. Why do I know that I for sure did that? Because that's all I ever did. I didn't know how to relate to him. I didn't know how to show him I cared. My family seriously lacks in that department. I've been accused of being cold before because I can't show true emotion without throwing out a sarcastic quip or mean spirited joke. Anything to take the attention off me. It's all true. I am. It's easier to tease someone about wanting some damn attention than it is to say I love you. How sad is that? How sad is it that at 21 I can't tel a family member I love them without feeling stupid and self concious?

Guess what OtherMother'n'Madre? Now you really can't tell him you love him. How's that for irony.

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post #2 of 14
Oh mama, I've read your posts; you've been through alot in your young life and you've handled it all with grace beyond my own abilities. The pain you feel now will lessen over time; but for now, let your tears flow and don't be afraid of who see's it. You have a right to greive no matter what the past has placed between you and your brother. If you don't have anyone you feel you can turn to, you know we're here for you.

I believe that everyone is here to learn a lesson or to help someone learn theirs. We as spirits are here to learn and grow. You've learned some incredible lessons of forgiveness and self healing. Your brother may not be here in person, but undoubtedly, he is near you often and listening. Talk to him. Feel his spirit. Know you are loved, whether it was said in person or not.

I'm sorry for your loss.
post #3 of 14
I'm so sorry for your loss and this terrible time in your life.

Sometimes there are just no reasons or words.
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by Blu Razzberri View Post
Oh mama, I've read your posts; you've been through alot in your young life and you've handled it all with grace beyond my own abilities. The pain you feel now will lessen over time; but for now, let your tears flow and don't be afraid of who see's it. You have a right to greive no matter what the past has placed between you and your brother. If you don't have anyone you feel you can turn to, you know we're here for you.

I believe that everyone is here to learn a lesson or to help someone learn theirs. We as spirits are here to learn and grow. You've learned some incredible lessons of forgiveness and self healing. Your brother may not be here in person, but undoubtedly, he is near you often and listening. Talk to him. Feel his spirit. Know you are loved, whether it was said in person or not.

I'm sorry for your loss.
Thank you. I needed to hear soemthing like that. DH isn't being th best support wise right now.
post #5 of 14
I just want you to know that I'm here. I will listen. We don't know each other well, but I am always here for you.

Sometimes I find that I just need someone to sit with me in the quiet and solitude. I have my thoughts, but I just want someone to sit with me.

I don't have any family nearby so my dh is all my support and to be honest, sometimes he's not that great at it.

post #6 of 14


Sorry Mama. I have no idea what more to say but I wanted you to know I was reading & feeling love for you.
post #7 of 14


You can still tell him you love him. You can say it out loud, you can say it in your head, you can go out in a field and scream it at the top of your lungs. I firmly believe he will be there with you, hearing you, and loving you back.

He is with you in spirit, and where he is now he is healthy and whole and doesn't feel that sadness anymore. You can tell him you love him, and you can do it because you feel you need to, but I believe he already knows.

I'm so sorry. We're all here to listen.

post #8 of 14
Mama, I am so so sorry for your loss. Truly I am. : But I know in my heart that your brother is with you and your family right now, and that he knows how much you love him. His spirit will always be with you. He is no longer plagued by whatever illness or demons he was living with that drove him to take his life. He is free of that pain, though his death has left so much pain in it's wake. Say everything you want to say to him. Write it to him in a letter. Write a poem. Cry for him, love him, scream at him, but don't hold it in. It is not awful to want to see his letter, it's not morbid. Suicide is so so hard to comprehend, to accept, and if this will help you feel closer to him, then please please do it.

I am so sorry for the anguish you are feeling now. It will not likely lessen any time soon, but it will in the future. It won't go away, but you will learn to live with it. When you are ready, I would encourage you to see a grief counsellor. I ended up seeing one after a loss, and it helped me process my grief more than I could have ever imagined.

post #9 of 14
Just wanted to give you a hug. Cause hugs never make you feel worse and I don't have anything to say that will make you feel better.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by OtherMother'n'Madre View Post
Thank you. I needed to hear soemthing like that. DH isn't being th best support wise right now...
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm glad I could offer you something a little more when you needed it. PM me if you want to vent/talk anytime, ok. You're a strong mama, hang in there, this too shall pass.
post #11 of 14
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Good grief! You'd think I'd commited murder or something. My family is getting together at my mom's house to mourn. I do not want to be there. I do not think sitting in a room crying and watching my family cry is going to help my grieving in any way! Add in the abuse issues that no one (other than my sister and now DH) knows about and my anger towards him for that and I don't want to go. DD1 also happens to be sick. I'm not going and that's that. So I tell my brother this morning (he was online) and my mom got to it before he could. Now I'm just..I don't know..rude to them or something. Of all people you'd think my sister would understand and she reacted just as bad as my mom did! Laughing and acting all snide, like I'm lying (about DD1 being sick which is what I told my mom about), and just flippant. Like I'm being selfish or something by not showing up. My mom too. My brother, who acted nice enough over im, sent me an email reaming me one. He said he thought it was f*d up (his wording) that I can't manage to drive a half hour to their house when i have family coming 100+ miles to do it. All because my "kids sick" and that they can handle sick kids and I know that. I don't think I should subject my toddler to the cold and snow just to go cry! I don't think I should get anyone else sick just to show I care and am grieving! My kids wouldn't be the only ones there. I'm sorry. Health trumps a memorial imo.

I am so tempted to tell them the reason I don't want to go (abuse) and see how they handle that. But I'm not going to. If they want to get together and greive and celebrate him that's fine. I'm not going to stop them and I'm not going to taint that all for the sake of getting them off my back. I just wish they'd be a little more understanding and not act like I'm "skipping out" for a stupid reason.

Man. I had made this decision the other night and felt good about it. It was what I needed to do and Dh supported me and I felt strong with my reasons. I had accepted the hostility and anger and everything I felt towards my brother and was feeling ok feeling them. Ten minutes on the phone and im and all that goes down the drain.

Sometimes family sucks. : Is it really that bad that I don't want to do this? I almost changed my mind. I was going to leave DD1 with Dh and just go..me and the baby. But why let them guilt me into it? Why give them that satisfaction yk? Sigh. I was doing so well! I was ok with greiving the way I was and now I feel like crap. :
post #12 of 14
No one should ever make you feel guilty for grieving how you need to do it. I can't see why there is a need to belittle someone for wanting to be alone. I hope your family is more understanding in the future.
post #13 of 14
You should be allowed to greive in your own way without their nastiness. But; try to have a bit of understanding for them; because clearly they're in emotional turmoil over the whole thing. They don't know how to deal with their upset and it's coming out as anger towards the first thing that sets them off. They took a clear cut path right to you. I'm sorry for that.

You do what makes you comfortable. If you feel you need to go, then go. If you feel like being alone, then be alone. You owe no apoligies for it, greif is a private thing and you're entitled to deal with it on your own terms.

(Also, I don't think now would be a good time to tell them about the abuse. I think they're anger would only get in the way, making the situation worse for you. Share that with your DH and with us, and wait for time to pass and heal their wounds before you tell them too....if you ever want to, of course)
post #14 of 14
Grieve how you need to, not how your family wants you to. If just talking to them is making you feel worse, then there is no reason for you to go.

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