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post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
It sounds like she doesn't have the capability for whatever reason of clearly explaining what is happening. As someone that suffers from sinus issues it can make you feel totally not yourself. How has she been sleeping? Sinus problems can cause sleeping issues which also makes people feel not themselves. I was quite confidant that it was a sinus issue just reading your post long before you got to the part about her finally being dx and given the rx. I'd give it at least a week or two before expecting to see her returning to her normal self, if the meds cure the problem. Sometimes a different antibiotic is needed. She only started the meds yesterday, unless I misunderstood your post.



She is genuinely sick and being sick makes people feel more needy, I'd respect what is happening to her and give her what she needs, compassion, consoling and a little pampering.
I agree. I had the same kind of issues when I started getting sick. I was in college at the time. Unfortunately, we haven't found what's wrong with me, but we're still trying at least, and know it's something physical.
post #22 of 27
Sounds a lot like I was at 11. For me it was majorly an attachment thing. I had just started secondary school, and was out of the house 10 hours a day. I missed my mum basically. Along with the huge adjustment of going to a new school and making all new friends (I went to a different school to anyone else in my little village, which was a 20mile bus journey).
You sound like you are doing a great job. Just talking to her, trying to understand and being understanding. My parents didnt get it, couldnt communicate and made me feel insane. I would probably say the head aches are either stress induced from the attachment issue, or slightly more made up to get out of school (I know thats what I did nearly everyday).
Good luck, you'll both be ok in the end
post #23 of 27
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After a couple rough days, she's doing much better. Sunday night at bedtime, she cried and cried and the prospect of going to school the next day. Worked herself into an escalating crisis thing, where everything she thought of was a tragedy. Everything was overwhelming to her--the homework, the curriculum, music class, being behind from being out last week. So I told her about a book I'd read, written by a writer (Anne Lamott) to other writers about the writing process, and how her mantra was "Bird By Bird," based on something her father had said to her brother when he was in an escalating fret about the sheer magnitude of a report on birds. "You just have to take it bird by bird." Soon she had assigned all her school subjects with a bird name (math was a dodo-bird), and she was able to go to sleep with this strategy planned.

Yesterday morning, though, all strategizing had gone out the window and she was just a wreck. Cried the whole time she was getting ready for school, cried on the walk to school (while her friends didn't comment on the crying other than to say, "Come on, you can get through this" and kept including her in their cheerful conversation), cried in line waiting to go into the classroom. I caught her teacher as she was heading to the classroom, explained the situation, and reiterated that if she could help DD get through the day, it would help her confidence level tremendously. As I left DD in line--poor thing, all puffy--I told her, "Look, there's a new boy starting in your class today," and gestured toward a new kid who was standing away from the group with his mother, who was talking to the teacher. I told DD, "Be nice to him. I guarantee he's more nervous than you are this morning."

And I went off to work, eyeballing my cell phone all morning and worrying about my girl. About 1 o'clock, I got an e-mail from her teacher saying that she'd had a great day so far. No tears. Lots of smiles and laughter. Played hard with her friends at recess. "Told me about a list of birds that she thought was funny," the teacher wrote.

After school, I asked DD how it had gone and she said it was fine. That she had one or two tough moments, but that she "bent her mind" to take her mind off the crying feeling. I had talked to some of my friends at work who are 20 years younger than I, and one in particular, who my DD knows, recalled that she had a similar experience at 11--panic attacks that hit in the middle of the night. They didn't last forever, but they came and went for awhile, and now she knows they were hormone-related. Then Little DD started asking about hormones, which gave Big DD and me a reason to discuss them again, and this time, Big DD seemed to get it. Something about explaining it to her sister seemed to help her get on top of it.

This morning, she said she felt fine and that she didn't expect any problems, even if she did get that crying feeling. She felt she could distract herself with her list of birds or by telling herself that "it's just too many feelings because of hormones, and they don't last forever."

I don't believe that we're done with this, but I do feel that she's getting more familiar with it all and gaining more confidence in her ability to cope. I'm hoping for a few good days in a row!
post #24 of 27
What a great tool you've given your dd to help her cope with her emotions! It's great to have a common language to fall back on, and to be able to use to interject a little bit of sanity into the conversation when she's in the throes of emotion. Not that she'll want to listen to it at that point, but interjecting the idea of one of her "birds" can at least plant the seed at that time that what she's thinking and feeling in the moment isn't necessarily the way life will always be, (no matter how hard she insists that you're wrong, and you just don't understand!)
post #25 of 27
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Bad morning again today. No coping skills within her grasp. She just cried and cried.

I felt this episode coming last night. When she's having an episode, she's depressed--disinterested in anything except sticking her nose in a book. Then the crying starts and she has a hard time stopping it.

I called today and got authorization to go talk to a counselor. I'm not planning to send her to a counselor at this point, but I would like some professional advice on how DH and I can guide her or help her cope. I'd also like to put her symptoms in front of someone and get an assessment. It's hard to know--is it "just hormones" or the start of a big problem with clinical depression.

DH (her dad) is a recovering alcoholic who needed treatment for clinical depression--before he could get sober--10 and a half years ago. We've got some depression/anxiety issues on both sides of the family, but I don't want to "go there" too quickly . . . or too slowly, KWIM?

Has anyone been down the counseling path for/with their child? I'd love to hear about it.
post #26 of 27
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DH (her dad) is a recovering alcoholic who needed treatment for clinical depression--before he could get sober--10 and a half years ago. We've got some depression/anxiety issues on both sides of the family, but I don't want to "go there" too quickly . . . or too slowly, KWIM?
Well, that was going to be my question for you. Do you, her dad or her grandparents deal with Anxiety?

Anxiety is like cloudy glasses. It affects the way you see, experience and interpret everything. It's not the situation, it the way you experience it.

For example, it's normal to get anxious/upset/depressed in response to an event, like if a pet dies. But if a person has periods where waves of anxiety crash over her, it's going to affect how she sees and responds to any extraneous event. From what you described, it seems as though there are no abnormal external events going on that would explain her tears. Other girls are probably having a rough time periodically, as well. But not to the degree your daughter is.

IMO, you aren't going there too quickly if you simply make an appointment for her to see her doctor. A decent pediatrician is going to listen to your concerns and respond compassionately and professionally. The worst that can happen is that she'll have had a doctor's appointment and you'll find a few months later that it was 'just hormones' and that the situation has taken care of itself.

You might try telling her she can cope, she just doesn't realize it yet. It sounds like you're already doing this to some extent, but try to stay away from school. Remind her she is capable.

((Hugs)) to you, mom!
post #27 of 27
If your intuition is telling you that there is a possibility this stage is more than just hormones, it doesn't hurt to get some more information and support. I've consulted therapists at certain stages, as have some of my friends, when dealing with new challenges with our children. Both times I've spoken with therapists, my children haven't even gone in to talk with them themselves; however, if the situation had warranted it, I would have taken them in, too.

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IMO, you aren't going there too quickly if you simply make an appointment for her to see her doctor. A decent pediatrician is going to listen to your concerns and respond compassionately and professionally. The worst that can happen is that she'll have had a doctor's appointment and you'll find a few months later that it was 'just hormones' and that the situation has taken care of itself.
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