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Originally Posted by PiePie View Post

elizabeth, 2 w till work?! what are you doing for daycare?
For now, mom and dad... I'm a little freaked by this because DD had a gas-related meltdown yesterday and my mom was not at all good at dealing with it. She held her in one position and just wandered around with her. I took her and she calmed down in a minute - just tried different positions with her. I'm sure daycare wouldn't be any better, though. At least with my parents she'll get tons of one on one attention.

Hope you get into one you love. I need to start looking for one's that are farther away, since the close ones aren't working out.
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Rachel... congratulations on DH's job! Colorado is nice! I'm a little jealous. I grew up in the west in Montana... I love the mountains. Good news about the allergy tests... you can keep your "herd". I had some fears that DS would be allergic to the dogs or something... don't know how I'd deal with that. They're my other babies! Do you have a time frame for moving yet?

I finally figured out the fleece pouch that I thought was too small and DS is sound asleep in it... I'm so grateful it works cuz the Moby wrap I ordered will still take a couple of days to get here, and the sling/pouch is the best way to calm him when he's fussy. I participated with DH in the "crank-fest" last night, to try to desensitize myself to it, cuz eventually I'll have to shoulder more of the burden when DH goes back to work, and I need to learn to get a grip when he's crying! It seems like anytime after 7 p.m. Oliver just gets cranky, and I need to get used to it. So I was quite proud of myself... I went through the whole thing and just held him and comforted him, and kept in good humor the whole time. When he starts the nonstop screaming thing, all we have to do is put him in the sling/pouch and walk around the house and within 10 minutes he's quiet. Amazing! He'll still fuss on and off for the remainder of the evening but it puts a stop to the screaming at least. Problem is, it's like being pregnant again for my back... it hurts after not too long. Guess I'll just take ibuprofen and suck it up... the most important thing seems to be keeping the baby happy Anyhow I guess he wore himself out because we got two 4-hour stretches of sleep, woohoo! I feel rested for the first time in weeks.

Lane... I think you mentioned what bottles you were using, or was it Dee? I can't remember. How's the bottle feeding going? Is she still able to breastfeed too?

I'll have to check back in later... I think he's waking up for some lunch

Ciao, Julia
post #223 of 528
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This also means putting off her scheduled vax on Thursday AGAIN... I actually want to get her vaxed and fate keeps putting it off. Maybe it's a sign that we need to wait for her to be older?
If it makes you feel any better, my doc is pro-vax, but anti-CDC schedule (he explains that it's designed with best interest for the population as a whole, but not for individual babes, if that makes sense). He won't vax any baby until they're around 6 months old, when he likes to start with the DTaP. Part of the reason is he says he feels like a 6 month old is definitely no longer a "newborn" and it's a lot easier to tell when they're sick, when they shouldn't be vaxxed, if they have a negative reaction, etc.
Obviously vax decisions are highly personal - just passing it along in case it's helpful to hear a medical opinion that it might not be such a terrible thing if you have to delay again.

As for the milk/pumping - I'd definitely try waiting the full two minutes (or longer) until letdown happens. It makes it easy for me that I can feel it (for me it's not painful, just a tightening in my boobs), but I think even if you can't feel it, you can certainly see when it starts happening. I go from getting a tiny bit of milk coming out to getting a veritable stream. If I were to go to the "slower" pumping mode before stimulating enough to get letdown I get virtually nothing - an ounce or two, maybe - even if I KNOW my boobs are full. If I wait until I get letdown (or, sometimes need to readjust the positioning of the siphons too) I can get 6 or 8 or even 10 (very rare!) ounces total. It took me a while to get it down, but it's worth experimenting with. Good luck!

One other tip: this doesn't seem to happen for me, but I've heard friends talk about a second letdown that happens. So it's worth letting the pump continue to run (less of a hassle if you have a hands-free bra) 10-15 minutes after it seems like you've stopped getting any milk out, to see if more starts to come...
post #224 of 528
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Originally Posted by nylecoj View Post
Rachel - Wow. First of all, CONGRATS on your husband's hopeful job offer. That is awesome and sounds like serendipity to me. Also great that your babe is wanting to nurse again -- you must be ecstatic.

You and dh have really had your hands full with all your babe's illnesses, and although I haven't been there I can imagine how difficult it's been. Sounds like you are getting some answers and hopefully, hopefully, everything will clear up here very quickly. (Just in time for a move!) Are you nervous or anxious about getting tubes in your boy's ears? Medical stuff like that freaks me out, but I've got some of my own issues about doctors and procedures from childhood. Even so ... how are you doing with it all?

Thanks! We will be breathing a sigh of relief as soon as the actual letter is in-hand. I am really burnt at work d/t the attitude of my boss (went back to work when her youngest was 3 or 5 weeks old, won't even greet her own kid at the door when she's home- the au pair does it! ), so I'm all paranoid about it going through now. But yes, it feels like serendipity to me, too.

I'm pretty anxious about doing tubes so young. I'm a nurse and used to work in pediatric intensive care, so I don't have any issues with procedures per se....although it is TOTALLY different to see your own LO in pain. We had a CT done on Lucien last week because of his sudden torticollis, and they let me stay while they put him to sleep. That SUCKED. I wanted to be in the reading room originally, and docs will often oblige on that kinda stuff because of my background- but once I saw his little limp body on the table.....let's just say it's a good thing I stood outside.

DH is totally not into the idea of tubes, because they were pretty new when we were kids and I think he had a cousin with lots of issues caused by them. I had the same problems as Lucien, starting at 3 months, with ear infections- several of the docs think he inherited crappy ear anatomy from mama. : I'm honestly on the fence about the whole thing. I hate the idea of putting him through this so young, but he could suffer permanent hearing damage and have speech delays if he has constant infections and fluid buildup now.

I'm just glad this job looks like it'll work out for DH, because I get default baby doctor appointment duty, since I'm mama *and* a nurse. We traded off staying home with him at first, but we both ran out of PTO, and his boss was threatening to fire him....so now it's all me for that, too.

On an emotional level- well, I lose my mind pretty frequently over it. Lots of crying, because it's been so hard to see the baby in pain. Combine that with the sleep deprivation, crappy diet, pumping 5x/day, job, blah blah blah....things started to turn around exactly when I thought I couldn't do another day of it, seriously. I'm not close to my family, but I'd have given my right leg to have one of my sisters nearby over the last 2 months. DH has just been stressed to the max, and his temper shows it. He *never* yells at me, but he gets incredibly frustrated with the dogs, cats, and the TV. It's been a while since we relaxed- for even a single evening.
post #225 of 528
Holy cats this thread is smokin'.

The Steve Almond quote was from his new book called, I think, "(Not that you asked)." I'm a fan of his. I mean, I could care less about the Red Sox yet his looooong essay on the subject was interesting. I keep wanting to diss him some (competitiveness and some of the earlier entries on his blog, Babydaddy, on Babble) but he keeps drawing me back in. He's one of my current fave current authors.

I'm terrible with names on here, too. Slowly learning the new folks! Jocelyn -- happy birthday to your babe!

Julia, so glad you got the pouch to work. Also? My babe SCREAMED at night (when papa was at work!), but at about 6 weeks it changed. She still screams sometimes but she will let me calm her down so it is MUCH less scary to deal with. I think you might have asked but I didn't say, we're using the greentogrow bottles, phtalate and bisphenol-A free. (Sorry, too lazy to link.) Yeah, she still breastfeeds 700 times a day (okay, maybe more like 10). She took the bottle a couple of times... from me. When DH tries, she'll gnaw on it for awhile but eventually will cry for me.

Related to the discussion about working at home, I bought the darn bottles because we had all these fights about how I needed to be able to "schedule" work time when I could be not on baby duty. He was all, "you can't schedule the baby"! We are still dealing with this issue. I got a haircut the other day and though a bottle (pumped fresh!) was available, baby cried most of the hour I was gone.

Rach -- latch on through your sweater? WOW!

Pie -- so it's the Bono daycare?

NAKED TIME IN WINTER. I want to give her more nakey time but it's COLD. (Ditto on daily baths -- no matter how quick I wrap her in a towel she cries tons after.) Do you just turn your heat up a ton, or what?

Okay, that's plenty from me.
post #226 of 528
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Originally Posted by preemiemamarach View Post
things started to turn around exactly when I thought I couldn't do another day of it, seriously.

Oh... how rough! I'm so glad things are finally starting to seem like they'll turn around for you.
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[QUOTE=~minnow~;9992522] NAKED TIME IN WINTER. I want to give her more nakey time but it's COLD. (Ditto on daily baths -- no matter how quick I wrap her in a towel she cries tons after.) Do you just turn your heat up a ton, or what?
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This may only work with my babe, but here's how I do it. FWIW, we generally hang out on the ground floor of a 3 story townhouse, which is usually fuh-REEZING.

Get babe into fleece sleepsack. (DH calls them fartsacks, thinks the babe should be dressed only in fartsacks. One zipper! Easy-peasy!) Play knee-bounce games and get generally rowdy with babe. Wait til his hands are starting to get a little sweaty (he's generally over the games and starting to fuss at this point), then strip him nakie and put him on his blankie next to me on the couch. When his hands start to feel cool again, we do bath-time.

This method accomplishes two things: first, we get him hot enough to tolerate nakie time for about 15 minutes (and he digs every minute of it this way). Second, the rowdy play beforehand usually prompts him to pee *before* he's nakie on the couch.
post #228 of 528
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NAKED TIME IN WINTER. I want to give her more nakey time but it's COLD. (Ditto on daily baths -- no matter how quick I wrap her in a towel she cries tons after.) Do you just turn your heat up a ton, or what?
We keep our apartment at 68/69, so not super cold or warm (though it sometimes feels pretty chilly!). I was actually a bit worried about that with the 30 minutes or so of naked time we give Willa every evening, but she doesn't seem to mind. Then again, she does have a LOT of padding (we're talking serious folds here) and is a bit older than your babe.
On the baths, though... for a few weeks when she was much younger WIlla used to always scream when she came out of the bath, and we realized it was because it was such a shock and she was cold. We now put a hooded towel on top of a big fluffy adult towel, and wrap her up in both as soon as she gets out. That seems to work pretty well. Another option is to stick the towel in the dryer before the bath so it's super warm and cozy.
post #229 of 528
PAK (awkwardly).

I feel much better now that I made a decision about formula vs breastmilk. DD seems to be doing much better already. The stuff stinks though! Smells like the bacteria food I use in the lab, which I guess is basically what it is. Whatever works, right? TG it's covered by WIC - it's over $250 a month! Only a month old & she already has expensive tastes.

Yesterday was a good day - I had lots of "firsts." First time out w/ the babe by myself and first time out without the babe. Both went surprisingly well. I had her in the Moby at the WIC office and she slept almost the whole time. Had a minor meltdown at Toys R Us afterward on our first shopping trip but no biggie. Left her w/ DH later and he did well w/ her & she slept for him too. It felt good to know that I can handle her and be part of society at the same time. Oh yeah & we went on our first dog walk too, thanks to Moby. Seems easiest to just wear the wrap all the time, like while driving, and put the baby in it when needed. Def couldn't tie on the fly b/c the fabric would get dirty.

Personals in a bit...
post #230 of 528
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Wow, I so can't keep up with this thread! I love how much people are posting and sharing...woohoo!

Rachel - Good luck with your articles. I also have a writing assignment due Friday (haven't even started . Good news about the move too. Sounds like it is best for your family. I am so happy for you.

Quick question for you...Benjamin is now in daycare and was diagnosed with his first ear infection last Thursday (less than 2 weeks after starting daycare . Anyway, he is on amoxicillin (today is the 6th day on) and still has a slight fever (hovering between 99-99.5) and a wicked runny/stuffy nose. Obviously, he is somewhat better because last Thursday/Friday he was screaming in pain and running a fever of 101-102, but it seems like he should be closer to completely better. How long does it take for the antibiotics to work (I haven't been on antibiotics in ages so I just don't remember). Also, are the cold symptoms related to the ear infection or do you think he has picked up a new cold virus?

Elizabeth - Your mom will get much better at dealing with DD. At first DH was terrible about trying things with DS when he was gassy and screamy. However, over time he has learned more tricks and tries new things (where as my solution almost always comes down to boob) and I think he is actually better at calming Benjamin than I am now! Babies are very good at getting their needs met and they have no problem letting you know when they aren't happy. Adult humans are programed to be very motivated to making the unhappiness go away.

re letdown: I feel it most of the time. It is like a tugging sensation high up in my breasts and from under the armpits. It used to feel more tingly and painful. I generally don't feel it when Benjamin nurses, but almost always do with the pump.

re keeping babe warm after bath: Our house is between 66-68 during the winter. However, at bathtime I crank the heat up to 70. I also will heat the towel (and his PJs) in the dryer immediately prior to the bath. I also use an adult size towel so that I can make a nice cocoon for him. He still fuss a little bit (when he is being moved from the bath to the towel) but settles down nicely once he is snuggled in. We actually don't do much nakey time - should we be? I hate being naked in my house in the winter, I can't imagine doing it to a baby!

Pie I also want to know if it is the Bono daycare!

Dee Congrats on your firsts! It only gets easier from there!
post #231 of 528
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Wow, I so can't keep up with this thread! I love how much people are posting and sharing...woohoo!

Rachel - Good luck with your articles. I also have a writing assignment due Friday (haven't even started ). Good news about the move too. Sounds like it is best for your family. I am so happy for you.

Quick question for you...Benjamin is now in daycare and was diagnosed with his first ear infection last Thursday (less than 2 weeks after starting daycare . Anyway, he is on amoxicillin (today is the 6th day on) and still has a slight fever (hovering between 99-99.5) and a wicked runny/stuffy nose. Obviously, he is somewhat better because last Thursday/Friday he was screaming in pain and running a fever of 101-102, but it seems like he should be closer to completely better. How long does it take for the antibiotics to work (I haven't been on antibiotics in ages so I just don't remember). Also, are the cold symptoms related to the ear infection or do you think he has picked up a new cold virus?
Thanks, Emily! I had an all-day meeting scheduled today with a vendor, but she had a sick kid and had to cancel. I'm sorry she has a sick LO, but I'm happy I have an extra day to write!

Same thing happened to Lucien- he got his exactly 2 weeks after starting daycare. Sucks. IMO, the amoxicillin should have made him feel *significantly* better after 48-72 hours, and the fever should be pretty much gone by now. Sounds like he has a cold virus on top of the ear infection, but it's definitely worth calling the doc back about. Same progression happened with mine- ear infection, week on amoxicillin that ended with a horrible, wheezing cold, then the infection raged up again and his eardrum ruptured. A LOT of the pathogens at daycare facilities cause treatment-resistant ear infections, apparently. Hopefully that's not the case with Benjamin, but it's worth giving them a call, just to make sure.
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Can you say relief???? FINALLY I am sitting in an office in DC, pumping for the first time since I nursed Willa at 4:15 this morning, right before heading to the airport - and that (short) nursing session was the first one she'd had since 7 pm the night before. Somehow I took absent-minded to a new level and managed to pack the pump but not the valves, membranes, or plastic parts that connect to my breasts - left them all by the sink where I'd washed them.
Several frantic calls to DC baby stores later, and I located a breastfeeding center that sells medela parts not too far from my paper's bureau here. A nice colleague went out and got the stuff while I was at my interview on the hill, and now hear I am at 12 pm, pumping at the keyboard (pak?).
Quite the crisis for my first trip away from Willa! At least it took my mind off of just being apart from her... I made a couple trips to the restroom just to squeeze out what I could and relieve the worst of the engorgement, but I certainly wasn't looking forward to 24 hours of doing that. Especially since most of my suitcase is taken up wth the pump and cooler I brought to bring my milk back with me!
And... I just pumped about 12 oz in less than 10 minutes. And I think I could get more out but I overflowed one of the bottles. Maybe I'll try more after transfering it to bags...
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Just quickly to say that yep we are all sick here. I've got a nasty sore throat and cough and Aidan is coughing too. He's really sweet all he's been doing is sleeping mostly, more than when he's okay.

Diaper bags: I got one of these: Boxy Backpack

Super pricey! I don't really recommend it because the material is already fraying and it looks bad. It is roomy and it has the shoulder strap and it's a backpack and it hangs very nicely from the stroller. When I'm wearing Aidan the backpack is convenient. But for the price I think the quality stinks. I'd go with something cheaper if I could do it again.

I don't do naked time either since he gets so upset when he's naked after his bath. I'm hoping on visiting my Mom in Florida next year and then I'm going to keep him naked all the time there!

What else... pumping, so Aidan isn't eating very well because he's all stuffed up so I've been pumping. What a hassle and it feels so weird! But hey if I avoid being engorged so be it. Also how do you manually express milk? I've tried but I don't get any out at all! Oh and I'm one of them women that doesn't really feel a letdown, I just trust that he's getting enough.
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Just quickly I wanted to congratulate you Dee on leaving the house... you do it once and then it doesn't seem so hard. It took me a couple of times before I lost my dread of a meltdown. Now I make it a point to go out at least once a day just to keep me somewhat sane.

Emily - poor Benjamin! Sorry about the ear infection. I think antibiotics work pretty quickly in alleviating the pain. Are they ear drops?

Rachel - kudos to you for handling all that's happening so well. I just can't imagine, I hope he can avoid tubes in his ears. Although having said that my nephew is now 8 and has had to have speech therapy because of problems with his ears. They are now recommending tubes... so who knows what's best.
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Lane thanks for sharing your family's experience w/ formula. I know I'm not the only one to experience this but it helps to hear about others. I didn't think your comment about liking pics of crying babies was flip. There's something authentic about them that you don't see in other pics. Loved the quote from that book - made me tear up. Your sentiments about weeping on the linoleum were quite eloquent as well. I've also wondered about naked time and/or skin-to-skin time. We keep the house about 72 (still running the A/C) but DD still gets a chill pretty easily.

Rachael congrats on hubby's job offer! I know you're looking forward to some changes - you've been through a lot. Good news about the allergies too. I hate to think that DD could be allergic to her furry siblings! Good luck on the decision about ear tubes.

Jocelyn glad the night weaning is going well. I hope it continues to do so! Belated : to her!

Elizabeth thanks for pointing out that eggs are a common allergy. I don't have the time, energy or money to do the health food thing so I've been doing what's easy. Just realized I introduced soy into my diet to replace dairy and I'm not tolerating it so well, so it's probably not good to pass it into breastmilk. Sheesh. I don't think I can keep this up. How do you live on quinoa and potatoes? My fave indulgence is food. : Sorry the formula didn't help your DD - did you try the hydrolyzed soy protein kind? Regular dairy or soy didn't work for DD but the hydrolyzed (Nutramingen) seems to work beautifully. I'm not suggesting that you switch, just wanted to make sure you explored all your options. You've been through so much w/ BFing - if there was an award you'd win it!

PiePie congrats on making a daycare decision. I can't imagine how difficult it is to weigh costs against care, in addition to all the other variables. Must be a relief to have the decision made.

Julia glad your night in the trenches went well. I'm all about my Moby wrap now. DD still has some reflux so she likes to be upright, which I couldn't do w/ a sling. I think both Lane and I mentioned bottles. I like the BreastFlow bottles by the First Years. They mimic letdown! The nipple is wide and compressible, like a breast. Kinda a pain to clean but worth it b/c DD doesn't suck in air when she eats. DD had no probs switching b/w bottle and breast, but she'll suck voraciously on just about anything (her first nickname was piranha).

Amanda it's great that your ped vaxes according to indivdual babies' needs. I've heard that preemies should be vaxed later than full termers too. I like his idea of beginning vax at 6 months rather than birth! I'm already dreading the 2 month appointment/vax showdown w/ my ped. Question: I've heard that you shouldn't pump longer than 20 minutes total or you could damage your nipples, but I've also heard to pump 15 mins after the last milk comes out. My right breast doesn't really letdown until about 18 minutes, so I never get much out of it if I stop at 20 or 25 minutes. Any advice?

Weird from left field question: did anyone have weird fingernail problems after delivery? My fingernails are growing sideways, for lack of a better description. They're growing into my nailbeds, which hurts and then gets infected. Gross I know. Never happened before so I dunno what's up. Hormones?
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Natalia... so sorry you're all sick

Dee... you sound so much better!! Great job getting out with the babe... I can't wait to get my moby wrap now! I haven't ventured out w/ the baby on my own yet but DH and I have taken him out when we had to. Success depends on time of day... the earlier the better as he's naturally crankier at night. Mom's coming on the 23rd when DH goes back to work so I'm hoping she'll help me take Ollie to the dog park to see how that goes. I need to be able to do that on my own when DH is working...I imagine the moby wrap will be helpful there. Did you have trouble learning how to tie it?

What did you all do about the Hep B shot? I'm torn about it. The ped at the hospital (very reputable, I think he knows his stuff) said he recommends it since this area is "hep B-rich" (due to cultural diversity) but it just seems like they recommend starting it so young! We have an appt. tomorrow and need to decide, as we didn't do it in the hospital. Then today I hear there's a vax recall, is it a sign? Am I silly to be so wary of this vaccine? Ugh, decisions...

acp (sorry I don't know your name yet)... sorry for your rough morning... welcome to the 'hood! Hope you enjoy your brief visit to DC
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Dee we posted at the same time Yes, that was the bottle I was wondering about, thx for the link. You should see a doc about your fingernails, that sounds painful. I got an infection from a hangnail once and didn't treat it right away. It got pretty nasty! I wonder why they're growing like that, hmm...

K, I'm gonna have to move the boy even tho he's so comfy snuggled against my chest... mommy has to pee!
post #238 of 528
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What did you all do about the Hep B shot? I'm torn about it. The ped at the hospital (very reputable, I think he knows his stuff) said he recommends it since this area is "hep B-rich" (due to cultural diversity) but it just seems like they recommend starting it so young! We have an appt. tomorrow and need to decide, as we didn't do it in the hospital. Then today I hear there's a vax recall, is it a sign? Am I silly to be so wary of this vaccine? Ugh, decisions...
we did it. we too live in a hep b rich area (lotsa immigrants).
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yes it's the bono daycare. eta: so nicknamed by this thread bc they are very socially conscious in a limousine liberal kinda way so they had bono come and talk to the kidlets about HIV+ mamas in Africa and BFing.
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I hate colds!!! At least I'm feeling better already - Dh has been sick since Friday. Isabella has coughed some and sneezed some, but doesn't seem sick. I'm hoping that all of my antibodies will keep her from getting it. I did postpone her vaxs again.

Hep B - I wanted to not do it, but our peds do a combo Dtap, Polio and Hep B as one shot, so if we didn't do it, she'd need both the Dtap and Polio... I guess I'd rather just get it than make her have another needle. I can't believe they do it at birth, though. No way!!! I'm not in a really high risk area. What's this about a recall? Geez...

Naked time - we don't do it. She doesn't seem to care one way or the other, but she hates being naked after her bath even though we keep the house warm for bathtime. We keep it 68 most of the time and bump it up for bath time. She hasn't had one in a couple of days since I can't bend over without my nose running!

Okay, she's waking up...
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