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post #221 of 369
Our birth day wish list: a vbac with a very small CNM group here in town. I want a home birth but I cannot sway my wife to that camp. Perhaps if she saw the business of being born, it would help. It sure worked with supersize me.

My nefarious plan: to claim to Jo that I am laboring at home for as long as I can and then, in the end, be so far along that we couldn't possibly make it to the hospital (on the other side of town), so I'll have to give birth at home anyway. (Only a dream. I won't really do this... I don't think.)

Some of my essentials are:

1. The small midwife group. Last time I had a STELLAR midwife whom I saw through the whole pregnancy (she got a big from me because not only did she not need me to clarify who my partner was but she actually laughed out loud at the answer I had filled in for "birth control method previously used": lesbianism), but in the end, we had a different midwife for our birth and she and I did NOT click at all and I think that it made a big difference in my birth experience. The group we will be going to has 3 midwives and 1 consulting OB. They used to have two midwives and their joke was that you either got tweedledee or tweedledum.

2. Different childbirth prep classes: primarily for my wife. We did hypnobirthing which, for us, was a major waste of money. I'm thinking Bradley this time. There is a dyke mama in town who is a Bradley instructor now. I think when T was born Jo was scared sh*less and didn't know what to do for me. And, I honestly think there were some times during T's birth that it would have been better if she had not been there. Harsh-sounding but true. She was just not ready for it. We were not ready for it, as a couple, but we went into it as a couple.

3. My own personal, hand-picked birthing support group consisting of my strongest, bossiest, most loving friends who have all given birth before. Quite possibly on a rotating basis, or as they are able to stop by. (Another reason why I'd rather be at home...) Maybe also my herbalist, a homeopath and my chiropractor if she can make it and is willing to come. I need someone or multiple someones, during birth, to kick my a*, to tell me what to do, to rub my back, pet my hair, force me to drink fluids, and just talk to me - like actually have a conversation with me - and act like what I'm doing is normal. I need to be around people who can make me relax, who have faith in the process and can get me to feel that while I'm laboring. I got a lot of well-intentioned platitudes during my last birth and while my doula understood that it was actually normal to sort of zone out and go somewhere else during childbirth, my wife was expecting me to be with it and it freaked her out when I wasn't "there" (cognizant) until I had an epidural. For this reason I think I tried too hard to be there for her and didn't surrender to the process... and consequently never dilated beyond 4 cm, and my son never descended.

And quite frankly - that's all. If I can VBAC I will be elated. If I can VBAC and my milk comes in and is enough to feed my baby, why, you will hear me singing praises and gratitude from all the way across the country.

But if I have a CBAC and end up nursing with an SNS again but have a healthy baby... I will still be counting my blessings.
post #222 of 369
The Business of Being Born is a wonderful movie, lifechanging for me, I saw it at a prescreening here in MI. There are only private screenings around the US, you can check out their website, www.thebusinessofbeingborn.com and it lists all the screenings. Watch the trailer, it gave me the chills. It comes out in Jan in selected cities and then out on DVD in March.
post #223 of 369
Our local ICAN chapter is hosting a screening of it...
post #224 of 369
Oh gosh, I would love to homebirth, but my insurance will only pay for a hospital birth. Ironic, since hiring a midwife for a homebirth is so much cheaper...

I thought about paying out of pocket and birthing at home, but honestly, I'm maxed out. I've taken out student loans to pay for my sperm, and I really just can't accrue another $3,000 or so in debt.

So, my plan is to birth in a local hospital (we also don't have any freestanding birth centers here, jeez...), with a midwife from a two-person practice that specializes in natural childbirth. I'm planning on doing Bradley classes, though, my friend who had committed to being my birthing partner may not be here in August, when I'm due. We'll see, it's a work in progress still...
post #225 of 369
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Woohoo! You're in!
Thank you!! Now only if I could convince my partner to get a but more involved in the thread...

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I know I'm totally putting the cart before the horse, here, but what do you all plan to do in terms of giving birth? (A colleague had her baby today, so it's on my mind...)
The only thing that I am really really hoping for this time is a VBAC. Last time my son ended up posterior and his head was OT, and after pushing for 4 hours they sent me in for a section. His head was so molded... there was no way he was coming out.

I want to use the same fantastic midwives that we used last time. They were the best. We now see them socially. Two of the three are lesbians themselves!

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And quite frankly - that's all. If I can VBAC I will be elated. If I can VBAC and my milk comes in and is enough to feed my baby, why, you will hear me singing praises and gratitude from all the way across the country.

But if I have a CBAC and end up nursing with an SNS again but have a healthy baby... I will still be counting my blessings.
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I almost can't imagine having a vaginal birth AND being able to breastfeed. It seems like a magical nirvana of sorts. Heck, even nursing with an SNS would make me feel good (DS would not latch at all. We tried for weeks.)
post #226 of 369
Hi everyone,
We are still in the 2WW, though not optimistic that our timing was great, so we are planning for next time. We are considering changing banks. Has anyone used Northwest? And, I thought I read that California Cryo allowed you to see the donors #s before you ordered, but I can't find that on the website. Anyone know the answers?

Thank you!
post #227 of 369
VBAC - ?
CBAC - ?
OT - ?


I'll be in the hospital with a midwife. I've heard a little about walking epidurals. Still need to learn more, but sounds like a good option. Not a very MDC natural type plan I know, but I want to enjoy every moment of the experience and not be out of my mind with pain. Plus, I know DW won't be of much help. I accidently cut my hand badly while cooking once, and I ended up helping DW onto the couch after she fainted from watching me wash my bloody hand :

I'm going to let the midwife know that we'll probably need two beds in the room.
post #228 of 369
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VBAC - ?
CBAC - ?
OT - ?
VBAC = vaginal birth after c-section
CBAC = cesarean birth after c-section
OT = off topic

Hope that helps!
post #229 of 369
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Hi everyone,
We are still in the 2WW, though not optimistic that our timing was great, so we are planning for next time. We are considering changing banks. Has anyone used Northwest? And, I thought I read that California Cryo allowed you to see the donors #s before you ordered, but I can't find that on the website. Anyone know the answers?

Thank you!
I use Sperm Bank of California (TSBC). They will tell you the #s ahead of time, but you have to call and ask. I've heard that California Cryo won't tell you- my friend just had a bad experience trying to get count info. Not sure about Northwest. I'm sure though that NO ONE will have it on their website- definitely the info you can only get on the phone. Also, when you call, ask what the donor's range is, and what #s are available on the specific vials that they'll be sending you.
post #230 of 369
mahrens77, I used NW Cryo when we did frozen. They were pretty good about customer service for a bargain bank. They are very, very specific about paperwork though so take your time and don't assume anything. Also, they sell out of popular vials. I used them for five insems and never used the same donor twice. It would have been better if we had purchased multiple vials but we couldn't manage that at the time.
post #231 of 369
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VBAC = vaginal birth after c-section
CBAC = cesarean birth after c-section
OT = off topic

Hope that helps!
Gak. I'm a bit of a dunce.

I've since realized that the OT you were referring to was the OT in my post. Which refers to the position of my DS's head. You'd think I hadn't written it myself.

Soooo.... OT = occiput (occipital) transverse
post #232 of 369
Thanks Lemurmommies!!! That clears that up
I didn't think "off topic" quite fit!
post #233 of 369
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I'm sure though that NO ONE will have it on their website- definitely the info you can only get on the phone. Also, when you call, ask what the donor's range is, and what #s are available on the specific vials that they'll be sending you.
I got numbers for our potential donor via live chat with Xytex.
post #234 of 369
That live chat was pretty helpful, definitely like that feature.
post #235 of 369
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I got numbers for our potential donor via live chat with Xytex.
Wow, fancy! TSBC definitely is NOT that high-tech. Though, I have emailed them and received a response within hours. On the flip side, once I left a phone message that wasn't returned until the following day, which, when you're in the middle of pre-insemination anxiety, is WAY too long, IMO. Overall though, since we're rating our bank experiences, I was very happy with them- I liked that they are non-profit and explicitly committed to queer-family-making, the staff was very friendly and very queer friendly, and they were able to accommodate my last-minute requests the few times that I made them.
post #236 of 369
officially in our 2WW now!!! We get to test on Dec 28 but im sure for fun do it on Christmas for the heck of it!!! We are staying super positive this time and just enjoying one another. Good Luck to all other 2ww'ers!!
post #237 of 369
Good luck to you Scalpel and to all of the others enduring the tough, tough 2ww!
post #238 of 369
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I got numbers for our potential donor via live chat with Xytex.
Our donor is from xytex, and I knew about the service, but I'd never thought to ask for the numbers. (FYI, you can request to have the units with the highest counts for 35$) Just now I was chatting with them, got the numbers, and then the gal says "I really like your choice in donors, he's a great guy!". I was like, "Thanks, we chose him right away, he seemed great, blah blah". Then I'm like "HUH? You mean you've acutally MET the guy????" She says, "yes, I've met him in person, I'd be happy to tell you about him if you have any questions", and goes on to say that he's very outgoing and funny and genuinely cares about people. This was kinda the impression we got from his profile, but still. Crazy! I was too stunned to think of anything to ask...she said his son was very handsome (I've seen pics so I knew that already too)...but I got her email and she said I can contact her directly if I ever think of anything! That was nuts!!!

BTW, my consult with the RN is one month from today :-)))
post #239 of 369
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Crystal, that is TOTALLY cool!
post #240 of 369
Yeah, frog, it kinda blew me away...in a good way. It's one thing to get warm fuzzies from the profile, it's a totally different thing to hear a stranger saying nice things about him! And then offer to tell me more!! I can't think of what to ask her, isn't that weird? He's an open ID donor, so we figure we'll learn more about him in the future anyways... I hope the IUI works in the first two tries, we only have 2 vials on hold and we're kinda attached to him :-)
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