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Odd request from landlord

post #1 of 84
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We live in a largish apartment building with about 32 apartments. A notice was just put up saying that during the winter months we *have* to keep our windows closed and all our heaters at MIN 20C. (I guess that's 68F).

For some reason this just bothers me. What if I'm hot? What if I want fresh air? DH smokes : so sometimes I open our balcony door to air out. Also, I never have the heater on in our bedroom because 1) our bed is in front of it and 2) it dries the air so it's hard on the throat when sleeping.

We have electric heaters.

What's the deal with this? Can you think of any possible explanation? I'd just ask the LL but they're impossible to reach. It's the first time it was ever mentioned and this is my 5th winter here. :
post #2 of 84
Do they pay for the heating or do you?

I think it is a weird request either way but if they pay then they are probably just trying save some money. Or maybe they are worried about freezing pipes?

Like I said, I think it is weird and really makes no sense to me!:
post #3 of 84
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We pay for our own heat. I can understand the issue of freezing pipes, but the situation would have to be quite severe for that to happen. I can go for a long time without turning my heat on because the building insulates us and we're sheltered from the wind...
post #4 of 84
Maybe they had a problem last year w/ one unit and pipes breaking or something so they felt the need to make rules?
post #5 of 84
Maybe they are trying to save costs on some units that they do pay the heating for? Because if the entire building is being kept warm then they can turn the thermostat down on the units that are vacant/they pay for?
post #6 of 84
I meant to say, if it were me I would disregard it! (I don't rent though)
post #7 of 84
When I was a kid, we lived in an apartment complex for a while, and the woman upstairs would turn her heat down. The insulation between upstairs and downstairs units wasn't great. Our heat would rise up into her apartment, and we'd be cold, but paying for heat she was enjoying.
post #8 of 84
i would ignore the request unless you are personally approached by the landlord and then, in that case, you could discuss the issues
post #9 of 84
My guess is they are telling you "the rules" so if a pipe freezes later they can blame you.
post #10 of 84
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Originally Posted by Erinz View Post
Maybe they are trying to save costs on some units that they do pay the heating for? Because if the entire building is being kept warm then they can turn the thermostat down on the units that are vacant/they pay for?
That could be it. There are a bunch of empty apartments this year. Hmmm.
post #11 of 84
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Originally Posted by SleeplessMommy View Post
My guess is they are telling you "the rules" so if a pipe freezes later they can blame you.
Probably that too.

This building is owned by a cheap, unethical, UAV of a company.

I'm going to ignore it.
post #12 of 84
ours has us do similar, no rule on windows though. But ours say its because of the pipes freezing, and after seeing upstairs's pipes burst last year, i do it willingly.
post #13 of 84
I don't think this is an odd request especially if the landlord pays for heating. With the price of oil (assuming it's oil powered) it's probaly better the tenants watch their use of heat, versus a higher rent to compensate for heat prices.
post #14 of 84
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Originally Posted by ladyslipper View Post
I don't think this is an odd request especially if the landlord pays for heating. With the price of oil (assuming it's oil powered) it's probaly better the tenants watch their use of heat, versus a higher rent to compensate for heat prices.
The LL is asknig them to keep it at 68 MIN, which means don't let it get colder than 68F. Basically if 68 is too hot for you, too bad....and the tenants pay for their own heat.
post #15 of 84
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Originally Posted by moondiapers View Post
The LL is asknig them to keep it at 68 MIN, which means don't let it get colder than 68F. Basically if 68 is too hot for you, too bad....and the tenants pay for their own heat.


And they are hydro-electric baseboard heaters.
post #16 of 84
Huh? He's telling you that you have to spend $$$ keeping your apartment unreasonably hot? I don't think so. He can pay to keep the heat on in the unoccupied apartments or he can offer to subsidize your energy bills.
post #17 of 84
ummm, 68f is unreasonably hot?

it's pipes. frozenpipes destroy everything, b/c they burst. bad mess.

als, though, i would guess *you* aren't who this is aimed at. the tenant who opens windows and cranks theheat to 85 might be.
post #18 of 84
Heck, I don't think it's unreasonably hot. I'd love to skip through life at 68 degrees! But we can't afford the heating oil so we bundle up.

If I were renting and paying for my own utilities, I would be pretty pissed if my landlord told me that I HAD to keep my heat at 68 or higher. The usual standard minimum temp to keep pipes from freezing with a buffer zone for power outages is 50. Lots of people here keep their houses at 40 if they go away for the winter, but plumbers recommend 50 just in case. It sounds like this guy wants the tenants to pay to keep the unrented apartments warm.
post #19 of 84
Its a common practice rule at alot of apartment complexes to ask them to be at 68 min. If you have it lower, and a pipe does happen to burst or just freeze, they can refuse to pay for the repairs and foot you with the bill, if you have renters insurance, they can refuse to pay out since you went against the complexes requests and warning.

if your apt is very insulated and you dont need to run the heat that much anyway, i dont see the problem. Ours is very insulated, and we have our heat set at 72, it kicks on maybe once a day if that. and if we had it set at 68 it would only kick on if the weather suddenly dropped fast.
post #20 of 84
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Originally Posted by moondiapers View Post
The LL is asknig them to keep it at 68 MIN, which means don't let it get colder than 68F. Basically if 68 is too hot for you, too bad....and the tenants pay for their own heat.
oops read that wrong, that does make it unusual and unreasonable to me then, especially if the tenants pay for the heat!
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