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post #41 of 84
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Originally Posted by wonderwahine View Post
you could run a cool mist humidifier to counteract the dry air.
We tried it last year with a small one running in our bedroom, only at night (from about midnight). I'd wake up at 6 and it was already bone dry and that was on the low setting. I was scared I was going to cause a fire running it dry so we quit using it. We obviously need to buy a bigger one, and more than one!
post #42 of 84
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Originally Posted by TechnoGranola View Post
Okay, I found this on humidity
So, I'm thinking that perhaps humidity has more to do with it than I first thought. Like I said, it's VERY dry here, much drier than Alberta (I've lived in Alberta). So the SK/MB folk would feel colder than other provinces with higher humidity and thus need to keep the thermostat higher.

I think no person should have to live in Saskatchewan or Manitoba in winter. Everyone there should be moved to Jamaica for the winter months.
That makes sense. It is very humid here. We have a hard time controlling the humidity in our house.

It also works in the reverse for hot temps. It feels so much hotter here because the humidity is so damn high.
post #43 of 84
60 degrees??????? I die of cold if our house is less than 78, I prefer 80 for comfort (and that is with a sweater/socks/slippers on).>>>>>>>>

I wish I could turn the heat up. Ours hasnt left 62 F . If I turned it up, I would have to get 2 more jobs to pay for the oil. :

as for the OP I am so glad we dont rent anymore. I would ask him what the reasoning is behind the new rules.
post #44 of 84
I live with my FIL, who likes the temperature kept at 22C. (Admittedly, he chooses to wear shorts and t-shirts all year round- long story.) Left to my own devices, it would be at about 18C.
Is your local council making any efforts towards reducing carbon emissions and electricity usage? If so, I'd send them a copy of the notice and ask for advice.
post #45 of 84
There is no way I would keep my house at 68 degrees. That is insanely hot.
I keep mine around 60 and the pipes are not remotely in danger of freezing.
post #46 of 84
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Originally Posted by ***Heather*** View Post
There are no pipes in the heater... it's not heated with hot water, it heats with elements. Here's an example of an electric baseboard heater. The kitchen/bathroom pipes are ALL located towards the middle of the building. There aren't ANY in the outside walls... or within 10 feet of the outside walls.

It just bugs me because it's ONE more way that they are telling us how to live. Rules upon rules. I can't wait to get out of this apartment and buy a house.

ETA: I don't know if others are familiar with electric heat, but when the temp goes below the thermostat setting, the heater comes on to make it warmer (duh) But if you have it at a higher setting, it comes on more often and it's a lot of DRY heat. It's not the only factor, but already my skin is super dry this winter. Also when you're breathing in the dry air at night while you're sleeping it can give you a sore throat. Therefore, I prefer to keep the heat at a lower setting so it's not coming on as often.
Most likely they are concerned about the water pipes then. You heat the inside of your rooms to a certain temperature, its going to be colder below the sink and inside the walls, so the inside has to be warm enough to make sure that inside the walls is warm enough, especially exterior walls. You could just set your heat lower and do things like keep the cabinet door below the sinks open.

Our heat, which is forced hot air is also very dry. I keep a huge evaporative humidifier running most of the winter to help with that.
post #47 of 84
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Originally Posted by pumpkin View Post
There is no way I would keep my house at 68 degrees. That is insanely hot.
I keep mine around 60 and the pipes are not remotely in danger of freezing.
We keep our heat at 60F during the day too.

I can understand not wanting people to leave windows open in winter and having the heat turned on when outside temps are below freezing but I don't understand telling people to keep the heat they pay for at 68 all the time. I could understand 60 as a minimum rule.

http://www.naturalhandyman.com/qa/qafreezingpipes.html
post #48 of 84
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Originally Posted by Irishmommy View Post
60 degrees??????? I die of cold if our house is less than 78, I prefer 80 for comfort (and that is with a sweater/socks/slippers on).
Same here! DH turns it down to 74, and I freeze.
post #49 of 84
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Originally Posted by TechnoGranola View Post
Okay, I found this on humidity
So, I'm thinking that perhaps humidity has more to do with it than I first thought. Like I said, it's VERY dry here, much drier than Alberta (I've lived in Alberta). So the SK/MB folk would feel colder than other provinces with higher humidity and thus need to keep the thermostat higher.

I think no person should have to live in Saskatchewan or Manitoba in winter. Everyone there should be moved to Jamaica for the winter months.
That's an interesting point with the humidity. I've never thought of that. I also have lot's of house plants and am often cooking something steamy in my crock pot which would further incresase the indor moisture leavel.

Good point.

I just get tired of prairie people who automaticly assume it isn't cold in BC. Last winter we had a week of hovering around -50. If you pee outside, it's frozen before it hits the gound in that weather!
post #50 of 84
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Originally Posted by Rhiannon Feimorgan View Post
That's an interesting point with the humidity. I've never thought of that. I also have lot's of house plants and am often cooking something steamy in my crock pot which would further incresase the indor moisture leavel.

Good point.

I just get tired of prairie people who automaticly assume it isn't cold in BC. Last winter we had a week of hovering around -50. If you pee outside, it's frozen before it hits the gound in that weather!
Heh-heh, I guess we get used to all the people who complain about how cold it is in the winter and then show up here and say "WOW, it REALLY is much colder here!", like we were making it up all along.

I can so relate to that horrid cold weather where any exposed skin freezes in 30 seconds, so you and I can commiserate together when we get that brutal cold in January!

And yum, always something steamy in the crockpot? Your house sounds much better than mine.
post #51 of 84
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Originally Posted by Rhiannon Feimorgan View Post
That's an interesting point with the humidity. I've never thought of that. I also have lot's of house plants and am often cooking something steamy in my crock pot which would further incresase the indor moisture leavel.
My thermostat's on 65 during the day which I think is *cold* (I'm jealous of the PP who keeps her's at 78!) even with a camisole, a short sleeved shirt, a long sleeved shirt and a sweater on! But I notice a big difference in my comfort level when I increase the humidity. We have a humidifier on our furnace and right now it's set to 45%, which is the highest setting.

Further, it's hotter than blue blazes here in the summer because the humidity is typically 89% on a *good* day and usually in the 90% range through July and August.

Slant Fin makes a really nice room humidifier if I'm not mistaken ...
post #52 of 84
Heather, FWIW, in MI what your landlord has done is illegal.
post #53 of 84
I'm not in Canada, just chiming in on the temp issue.

I have lived in New England, and now I live in Georgia. I have never been able to stand heat or high humidity. I am uncomfortably hot if the temperature is over 70, unless the humidity is low. I am most comfortable at 60-65, but my husband freezes at anything below 78.

My parents in New England have always kept their thermostat at 50-54 depending on the humidity.

At 50-54 degrees at home people put on sweatshirts. Here they put on parkas, gloves, hats, and scarfs. It is more humid here in Georgia than in New England. People look at me like I'm insane when I go out in a pair of jeans, short sleeve shirt, and a light fleece/windbreaker if it's windy. It really is just personal preference.
post #54 of 84
maybe just ask ?
post #55 of 84
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Originally Posted by ILuvMyBaby View Post
maybe just ask ?
I only see them on the first of each month. They put up notices so they don't have to talk to people. It's not worth calling head office for an answer. I'm just going to use common sense and do what I want.
post #56 of 84
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Originally Posted by BeckC View Post
It really is just personal preference.
Personal preference is a part of it, but it not the *only* factor. You even said yourself that your parents vary the temp in their place depending on the humidity. Humidity IS a factor. And humidity varies depending on where you live, it is much more humid on the beach in Jamaica than it will ever be where I live. So, where you live factors in as well.
post #57 of 84
I would probably ignore the 68 "rule" especially if YOU are paying for the heat. If landlord wants it at 68, he should pay for it.

I keep our house at 70 in winter (gas heat) and 68 at night and I am freezing my butt off (but we are used to HOT weather). Even at that, last year my pipes froze. I dont think the indoor heat has much to do with that so much as the outside?
post #58 of 84
Sounds like a fair request to me. 68 isn't very warm and you can go warmer, of course. Some people drop the temp. when they aren't home, at night, etc. and it is hard of the heating system.
post #59 of 84
But to some of us, 68 is VERY warm.

I break out in hives at 70, 68 is dripping in sweat and a bright red face.
post #60 of 84
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Originally Posted by Mary-Beth View Post
Sounds like a fair request to me. 68 isn't very warm and you can go warmer, of course. Some people drop the temp. when they aren't home, at night, etc. and it is hard of the heating system.
Its not hard on the heating system to drop the temp.

We had landlords who made a "No open windows" rule, but they paid for heating (and had international students as tenants who would crank the thermostat to 80 and then open all the windows to cool it down). But if you're paying for your own heat, the difference between keeping it at 68 and 50 for 8 hours can be 8% or more. Keeping it down for 24 hours can save a *lot* - 10-15% or more, depending on weather and how far down you turn it.
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