Non-vacc'ers, do you think in our lifetime we will be vindicated? - Page 2

[jennybean0722]

First of all, I wouldn't tell people that the only reason you aren't vax'ing your child is b/c you want to stop big pharma from making the big bucks.

However, what you should tell them is that you are putting the needs of the the health of YOUR child first, not someone else's (the population at large). If you want to get into 'conspiracy theory', I would agree that its good to tell them that the gov't should not dictate what should be done to my body; especially vaxes.

[cortsmommy]

Originally Posted by jennybean0722

First of all, I wouldn't tell people that the only reason you aren't vax'ing your child is b/c you want to stop big pharma from making the big bucks.

Are you talking to me? I have never said that nor did I imply that.

[Deborah]

I dunno.

There seem to be a lot more people concerned about vaccinations now than there were 50 years ago, or even 10 years ago.

Some of it is because there are a lot of people who have had vax reactions in their family. Where they managed to figure out that it was a vax reaction. It adds up.

Some of it is the Internet, making it easier for folks to talk to each other and link up.

[Gitti]

I think so. Maybe in about 10 years when the girls and boys who are getting the Gardasil Vax right now are mature.

[Arduinna]

I doubt it, but I don't particularly care to be vindicated.

[applejuice]

Yes, why be vindicated by others when you already know you are correct?!

[mykdsmomy]

I truly hope so. I hope that the people who have their heads so far up Pharma's derriere can someday see that vaccines are causing more harm than good....who knows.....it is depressing.....especially considering the hard core vaccine pushers are the same ones who could call cps if they get irritated with you for not complying.....

[Jasmyn's Mum]

I work at a homeopathy clinic and we have been doing vaccine seminars for the last few months. We have been fully booked. More and more people are questioning. That is how it starts. Will I see it in my lifetime? I believe so. If more and more people like us talked about it and spread the word.

[aira]

The shifting of police powers in the US is what makes me think it will not end anytime too soon.

[reeseccup]

Originally Posted by Arduinna

I doubt it, but I don't particularly care to be vindicated.

I don't feel the need for vindiction, but I'm grateful I can make a difference for someone even if it's just a speck of the population.

[StacyL]

Originally Posted by cortsmommy

When we non-vacc'ers speak out in the community we are seen by the majority as these Loony Toon Conspiracy Theorists Freaks.

I wonder if, given the people's desire to maintain the status quo, we will ever find out the truth or if anything will ever be done to truly investigate this industry. I would like to believe that someday I will be vindicated instead of being made out to be this bad guy, just because I care.

Yes, I think so.

I think the scandal brought by vaccines will be even bigger than the Big Tobacco scandal and the truth will come out that they are sterilizing and killing women and children for big, big bucks. It will most likely happen in our lifetime, say the next 20-40 years.

[tayndrewsmama]

Originally Posted by StacyL

Yes, I think so.

I think the scandal brought by vaccines will be even bigger than the Big Tobacco scandal and the truth will come out that they are sterilizing and killing women and children for big, big bucks. It will most likely happen in our lifetime, say the next 20-40 years.

For some reason, I have a sneaking suspicion that the children of the super wealthy are not vaccinated. Just a gut feeling and of course there's no data one way or the other. It's based on a few random comments and quotes I have seen from the media. Nothing real stand outish to most people though. Wouldn't that be a huge scandal if it were actually true?

[Kappa]

Well, the CDC obviously has no limit on the # of shots they will try to inject into a little baby from birth. I hope eventually they will add so many shots to the schedule that the system will collapse on its own weight. I'm surprised more people don't find the # of shots in isolation to other factors in and of itself just appalling. That is really what led me to this board, when I reviewed the CDC schedule, the state's schedule (which is much shorter than the CDCs), and my own set of well, possibly 4-5 shots I got when I was kid. I guess the 5in1 shots are masking that now for uninformed parents. Doesn't make it any less ridiculous though.

[StacyL]

Originally Posted by tayndrewsmama

For some reason, I have a sneaking suspicion that the children of the super wealthy are not vaccinated. Just a gut feeling and of course there's no data one way or the other. It's based on a few random comments and quotes I have seen from the media. Nothing real stand outish to most people though. Wouldn't that be a huge scandal if it were actually true?

I suspect that too. I suspect Bill and Melinda Gates' kids are not vaccinated, for all the money he's throwing at vaxing Third World populations.

An awful lot of physicians' children are not vaccinated. Hmmmm...makes you wonder.

[13Sandals]

Originally Posted by Kappa

Well, the CDC obviously has no limit on the # of shots they will try to inject into a little baby from birth. I hope eventually they will add so many shots to the schedule that the system will collapse on its own weight. I'm surprised more people don't find the # of shots in isolation to other factors in and of itself just appalling. That is really what led me to this board, when I reviewed the CDC schedule, the state's schedule (which is much shorter than the CDCs), and my own set of well, possibly 4-5 shots I got when I was kid. I guess the 5in1 shots are masking that now for uninformed parents. Doesn't make it any less ridiculous though.

The buldging vaccination schedule is causing a widespread shift. New Jersey is trying to add four more shots on the mandatory list - including the Flu shot. There are simply too many shots at this point for people not to at least feel uncomfortable about it. Kids are not dying left and right - but the schedule just keeps growing and growing..I too believe it will 'collapse on its own weight' (nicely put Kappa!)

I'm also hoping enough peds/docs will finally admit to being uncomfortable with the great number of shots and will start nudging parents not to follow the entire schedule....hey - I can dream can't I!

[applejuice]

Of course, I have no way to prove this either, but...

...For some reason, I have a sneaking suspicion that the children of the super wealthy [read, "ELITE"] are not vaccinated...

...ITA. I have always harbored this feeling.

I also believe there are lots of pediatricians who have never vaccinated their own children, since they see the reactions all of the time; I suspect they forge their children's vax records. (I recall British PPM Tony Blair glossing over the question when he was asked; his MIL is a homeopathic practitioner).

No proof, however. Just a deeply-held, gut feeling.

(OTOH, many doctors so sincerely believe, a religious belief, in their own medicine and procedures that they would never think to withhold it from their dear family; the people who often suffer the most from iatrogenesis are members of a doctor's family)

[attachedmamaof3]

I am hopeful.

[Scattershoot]

Non-vacc'ers, do you think in our lifetime we will be vindicated?

Every day that I look at my beautiful, healthy children I'm vindicated.

As non-vaxers, we may be standing up against the masses and taking shots others can't comprehend because they are not in our shoes, but others are doing the same for us in other ways. The freedom to be left alone does not come without a fight. Nothing would ever change if it weren't for the tiny minority who choose to stand up against the forces of the status quo and all their tools of control. At some point you just do it because it is the right thing to do.

Then there are those who just follow. Unfortunately they typically do not realize they are simply following. Fortunately they are usually apathetic and when the tide turns toward the truth they just do that too.

[Tracy]

vindicated is not in the equation for me either.

but yes, I think a lot of the smoke and mirrors around vaccines will be blown away in my lifetime. and get this, I'm old. lol.

[beanbean]

Vindication isn't important to me -- I just hope, desperately, that the tide will turn away from vaxing, rather that the current trend, which seems to be headed toward forced vaccination.