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post #21 of 29
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Originally Posted by Phantaja View Post
I told my brother the truth that all teen boys want to hear: Condoms will help him stay "up" longer. Then I tossed him a box. The little twerp was too lazy and embarassed to go to the drug store to buy his own.
This is brilliant.

Along with the other suggestions, I think it's perfect.
post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by attachedmamaof3 View Post
I would remind him that BC is an individual's responsibility and is not to be left up to the other person.
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Originally Posted by theretohere View Post
I would talk about birth control failure and owning one's own reproductive choices- he can't force her to take the pill reliably, but he can put on a condom every time.
Absolutely. That would be a powerful, perspective-changing message for your brother to get from your HUSBAND. IMO boys and men simply do not get it that they are *equally* responsible if their girlfriends get pregnant. Or they refuse to believe it.
post #23 of 29
I'd tell him you can't trust that she is taking the pill, or that she is taking it right, or that she isn't on antibiotics that month so the pill isn't working as well. Besides, you want to protect yourself against STD's. And tell him that he would be responsible for a baby for the next 18+ years of his life. Explain the meaning of having a child And then you let him live with the consequences.
post #24 of 29
My sil was 17 and on the pill, not great at remembering to take it, didn't realise antibiotics messed it up. Now I have gorgeous 20 month old twin nephews! That should scare him into the belt and braces approach!
post #25 of 29
Even if she remembers perfectly, the pill still fails.
I think I would emphasize that people of all ages who are serious about avoiding pregnancy use more than one form of birth control - always - no exceptions. At that age I think we used 3 kinds. Its just not worth the risk.
post #26 of 29
I was in a (nonsexual) relationship with an HIV+ man once.

We figured out that if he drank an 8 oz glass of water with every pill he had to take every morning, he'd need three gallons of water.

One of the side effects from the antivirals was severe diarrhea; when he was having trouble getting medicaid to pay for the superstrength immodium he needed to counteract the digestive issues, he had to wear Depends.

When it comes to my own son, he protects HIMSELF, not just his partner, and I expect a certain amount of selfishness there; no barebacking until he is either married or in an established relationship and completely trusts her to be 100% faithful and I question whether anyone should ever trust anyone that much.

When it comes to my daughter, condoms aren't effective enough to protect her from the emotional trauma of an abortion or unexpected pregnancy. I'm very happy to know that she's using foam as well, but I also want her to chart, gave her my BBT when I was done with it, and plan on getting her a copy of Taking Charge of Your Fertility.

This isn't the 1970s; it's a matter of life and death for your son. The Pill may protect his partner from unplanned pregnancy, but it does NOTHING to protect him or any of his future partners.

ds and I recently had a talk where he told me that he was sexually active and not to be too upset if I found condoms among his possessions and I told him I'd clobber him if I ever DIDN'T find any.
post #27 of 29
Ha! I saw this thread just as my little brother called me...He's 19, went through an intense sex ed course and knew this stuff (he's particularly concerned about paternity and child support. FWIW: He feels like if she's been tested for STIs and they have an agreement, the decision to trust her is his.) We've also always been able to talk about sex, so I asked him what he thought.

He said he could think of lots of arguments, but he could also hear himself, at 17 thinking he was doing the most responsible thing, responding to all of those arguments, "*&$^@ you!", at least in his head.

We came up with two possible approaches that would ease past the "I know everything I need to know and am making my own darn choices" wall:

(1) If your brother has NOT had the kind of sex ed course my brother had, open with, "you know, I didn't know this when I was a teen, but the sex ed courses in schools suck because of some really unpleasant political manuvering by folks who don't think anyone should have sex before marriage and I know our parents didn't give *me* all the information I now wish I had. I've been thinking about you and thought maybe you'd let me tell you what I wish now school or mom and dad had told me." Then tell him about bcp failing and paternity and stuff, just in a "just the facts, ma'am" kind of way.

(2) Tell him you've learned that different birth control pills have different effectivenesses and you're hoping his gf is on a good one, but you've been worrying 'cause you don't want to see him tied down with child support. Then ask him if he'd be willing to find out what she's on and tell you and then you'd research it. Then you can come back and say, it's only whatever % effective, FYI.

That's what my 19yo brother thinks *might* work, anyway FWIW, I think as an older sibling you have a unique position that works--at least it works for me. It works if you can fairly consistently treat him as an adult, responsible for his own decisions, and not like a kid. That opens a different kind of relationship than probably any other adult in his life. It's just hard to give advice from that position, but when you can give him new information and just kind of be there, the results can be really powerful. My brother and I have talked A LOT about sex, we started having the kinds of joking conversations you don't have with your parents when he was 14...and now he's our donor, so...you know, more detail than most siblings talk about.
post #28 of 29
A picture of a baby coming out did the trick for me as a teen. Sheesh. Scared me to death.
post #29 of 29
how about this

my dd and her boyfriend shortly after the birth of their boucing baby boy (they were 18 and 16) and yea he though she was on birth control... she had lapsed
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