Reflux/Puking

[GinaRae]

Something I heard today: Feeding baby in an upright position can help reduce feeding problems like reflux/puking. Who knows?! Give it a try..

[pixiesmommy]

(nak)
we're trying this. my lc said NEVER lay the baby flat either. peri's reflux is really bad and she's spitting up every time she feeds (and considering that she's feeding every 15 minutes- from the end of one nursing session to the start of the next.... and for 45 minutes at a time... UGH!)

it's hard... i am covered in spit-up, sometimes pee from leaky dipes, still bleeding and dealing with pp issues and wreck injuries, she's feeding constantly... everyone wants to visit and the holidays are here.. i don't know how you are all holding it together. i feel SO overwhelmed. the only time i can get out of the house is to dr's appts and peri SCREAMS the whole way in the carseat... ugh. just ugh.

but if i could just deal with the reflux, it would help. especially since she won't unlatch long enough for me to bathe

[GinaRae]

Oh my gosh, what a nightmare!! I feel for you, mama.

My second son was SO sick and we just couldn't get it resolved and I didn't have the Internet to help me find support and resources. He had diarrhea all the time, a bleeding butt, screaming up to 16 hours a day from pain, was being fed 1/4 of an ounce every 1/2 to 1 hour because he couldn't tolerate more, and I was getting 2 hours of sleep per night.

I do not even know how I survived, but at the very least he slept in the car!

[kathteach]

I am dealing with major spit-up too. And like Peri Desmond feeds for a really long time. My LC finally told me keep it under an hour. Pixiesmommy I am covered over here with various bodily fluids too, yah it's gross. Especially the yellow poopy stains I find later that I didn't even realize I missed wiping off from the latest exposion.

Question: How can you feed upright if you're nursing? Bottle-feeding yeah I get but with a breast???

[pixiesmommy]

I'm trying to do it by propping up the side of the boppy that her head is on more. She's not "sitting" but is more tilted, I guess is how you'd describe it.

Here are things my lactation consultant said to try... Oh, and what the heck do you do to soothe them when all they want to do is nurse? Even when I KNOW she is full (my gosh, I can pump 6 oz in no time with one letdown and she's got to be getting more than that.. I let down sometimes 3-4 times when she feeds, double that if she feeds on BOTH sides!!!)

* One-sided feedings (feed on one breast 4-6 hrs, comfort but don't empty the other breast by pumping). Feedings should be shorter and more frequent.

* If there is a strong letdown, and the baby is gulping - pump letdown and then put baby back on.

* Keep baby upright as much as possible for feedings and at least 30 minutes afterward.

* Avoid laying baby flat – angle crib mattress, changing table pad, etc…

* Use other calming techniques and pacifier or finger for sucking so that more food is not put into tummy. Empty breast is okay for this too.

* Tummy time – strong abdominal muscles help what causes reflux. Use tummy time when baby is cooperative.

Other things I read seem to indicate that tummy time is bad because anything that puts pressure on the tummy brings up more puke. I know that burping Peri frequently pisses her off, but it does seem to mean less spit up. Of course, if I put pressure on her tummy to burp her (over my shoulder) then she just pukes.

[sorteep]

Originally Posted by pixiesmommy

(nak)
we're trying this. my lc said NEVER lay the baby flat either. peri's reflux is really bad and she's spitting up every time she feeds (and considering that she's feeding every 15 minutes- from the end of one nursing session to the start of the next.... and for 45 minutes at a time... UGH!)

it's hard... i am covered in spit-up, sometimes pee from leaky dipes, still bleeding and dealing with pp issues and wreck injuries, she's feeding constantly... everyone wants to visit and the holidays are here.. i don't know how you are all holding it together. i feel SO overwhelmed. the only time i can get out of the house is to dr's appts and peri SCREAMS the whole way in the carseat... ugh. just ugh.

but if i could just deal with the reflux, it would help. especially since she won't unlatch long enough for me to bathe

hugs,there with you on flux/cry/feed..sorry for pp bleed issues too.. yikes girl...

[sorteep]

dean never lies down.. i nurse sorta sidding on my side with him on the higher boob and angled down,, can even do this side lying too if baby is good latcher.

i limit nursing sessions to 1/2 hr or 45 mins and do it in three increments with breaks and burps in between so some of the milk can go down.. also the one sided block nursing has helped a lot.. i had to go back on the 8 hr block , and i pmp off the first strong let down,, also i 'make" him go 2 hrs btwn the start of one feed to the start of next.. no fun but it has helped a lot and he is getting used to it

the nights sitting upright with him are the hardest

also i recently went to tummy sleeping for naps and the first leg at night.. with the bassinette raised at head.. it has definitely helped.. he has excellent head control and is 5 wks and i literally sit and watch him in the day and "sleep" with my hand lightly on his chest at night if on tummy..i still feel horrible doing it but he is so much more comfy.

also have appt with another ped cranial therapist..

i also nap him in swing or bouncy or car seat if not upright on me...

this is my 3rd fluxy kid.. it SUCKS,, they are so hi needs

hugs to all in same boat

[sorteep]

pretty medically oriented but good resources.. we did wedge with evan,, wish i still had it...

http://www.infantreflux.org/

FLUX SUX

[sorteep]

forgot to add gripe water helps but not too soon after feed.. in wait 20 mins so as not to interfere with digestion..

i am also considering milk digestion enzymes.. like lactaid drops but for protein too..

[sorteep]

also i have to be beyond vigilant about what i eat when bf,,, it is really restrictive but worth it... by the third time dealing you sorta figure out what drives my boys bonkers...

[monocyte]

I think we have reflux here...he's so freaking uncomfortable.

Although, I did discover 2 nights ago that sleeping in the boppy keeps him happy and comfortable...and thus allows me to sleep!!

[monocyte]

Originally Posted by sorteep

also i have to be beyond vigilant about what i eat when bf,,, it is really restrictive but worth it... by the third time dealing you sorta figure out what drives my boys bonkers...

I'm trying to figure if something I am eating is contibuting as welll..what's on your no-no list.

[Danielle69]

something i came across while researching my baby's gassiness.

http://www.pollywogbaby.com/products...ingpillow.html

goodluck...:sending good vibes.

[chrysalis]

hmmm i wonder if nursing sheamas while laying down on our sides at night is bothering him. he wakes now every 2 hours to nurse but also lately his thing is to seem constipated as he will grunt and push and seem so uncomfortable. i'm wondering if its cuz my appetite just sucks lately and i'm not taking in much food...? but also now wondering if the side lying position isn't so great for him. w/ megh it worked great...and of course when i'm dead tired in middle of night every 2 hours just pulling him into me while still laying down is great. he isn't a big spitter upper but gets hiccups a lot and gassiness. i rarely burped megh after she was about 2 wx and she never had any issues...but sheamas is different. i have to burp him most of the time. (i tend to forget to do this...) does acid reflux typically have a lot of puking/spitting up?

oh and i know about the pee leaks and such...at night i sweat my ass off too, must be hormonal... so sheamas and i are so sweaty from my heat, and if his diaper leaks then i have to get up and throw a towel over it for the time being...sigh...or if i have a big boob leak...oh i'm so tired.... i feel a 'little' better now taking this augmentin...maybe i did have something going on internally that was causing all the aches and discomfort in my body. hmmm.

[chrysalis]

Originally Posted by GinaRae

Something I heard today: Feeding baby in an upright position can help reduce feeding problems like reflux/puking. Who knows?! Give it a try..

gina...that was your 5000th post!!!

[sorteep]

dean rarely actually throws up , evan projectiled.. jay spit up but not projectile.. i know dean would progress to vomit if i did not keep him upright.. many fluxers do not spit or throw up or lose weight.. the frequent often violent hiccups with gassy fussy is a good indicator of flux.. swallowing a lot not during feed and being very uncomfortable lying down are other signs..

arching back and being stiff are signs too,, throwing head back etc..

i'm so sorry you guys are dealing with this too...

[sorteep]

Originally Posted by monocyte

I'm trying to figure if something I am eating is contibuting as welll..what's on your no-no list.

it's easier to write the yes list,, hold on it is in another post i will find..

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=808192

[GinaRae]

Originally Posted by chrysalis

gina...that was your 5000th post!!!

Considering I started in March after I found out I was pregnant... yah, I talk too much

[GinaRae]

Nursing Upright

I found a couple of things that work just trying to take some pressure off my nipples!

** First, the football hold helps. Keep his head high with a pillow while letting his butt lay low at your hip/thigh.

** Second, sit up in bed cross-legged and curl his lower body up inside your legs, with your tummy to his chest and his head at your nipple height.

** Third, sit on the couch with one leg bent up on the couch so your pelvis is open (or do cross-legged).

** Fourth, wear him in an upright position facing you in a ring sling that's really low on your pelvis. Then nurse him that way. You will have to be standing OR sitting on the edge of chair/couch/bed so he dangles between your legs.

[monocyte]

Originally Posted by sorteep

many fluxers do not spit or throw up or lose weight.. the frequent often violent hiccups with gassy fussy is a good indicator of flux.. swallowing a lot not during feed and being very uncomfortable lying down are other signs..

arching back and being stiff are signs too,, throwing head back etc..

i'm so sorry you guys are dealing with this too...

yeah, H doesnt spit a great deal, probably about as much as most babies, but, he does hiccup alot, is horribly gassy (both ends) and cannot lay down with out a "gulp, gulp, gasp" for air as he seems to be choking on whats coming back up at him - even an hour after his last meal. He is like a board stiff, arches etc...that's what sold me on reflux. I knew it wasnt (arching) anything more serious (I always think meningitis when I hear of arching). Poor guy.

Interesting diet your on...I'm just starting to log things, and I think dairy might be a big one, plus any veggies (ok, so I love onions, peppers, broc...)

So strange bc Sam never had issues at all with what I ate. Each kid is sooo different!