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post #1 of 16
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We are moving and I've got the OK from my new/old (long story) landlord to tear out the carpets, but we need a cheap way to cover the cement underneath. I know you can get nice tiles for $1 a piece on sale sometimes, but I was thinking something a little softer since dd is crawling now and will be walking before we know it (a.k.a. childproof ) She said she'd go in on Pergo (sp?) flooring but I dunno what that is or how expensive it is. What about vinyl floor tiles? I mean, my dream is hardwood floors, but that's a little unrealistic. Also, does anyone know where I could find an affordable (read CHEAP) area rug? I don't really care if it's ugly so long as it's clean. I am on a time frame too, so any quick responses would be appreciated!
TIA!
Lauren
post #2 of 16
Hi!

DH has a flooring company so if you give me specific questions, I can ask him.

But as for a cheap rug, just go to a local flooring company and ask for a remnant. They should have plenty of "leftovers" and SHOULD give them away for free- if not a minimal price.

If you think of any specific questions e-mail me at cortneylong@triad.rr.com
post #3 of 16
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Originally posted by CortLong
But as for a cheap rug, just go to a local flooring company and ask for a remnant. They should have plenty of "leftovers" and SHOULD give them away for free- if not a minimal price.

You could also ask if they have any outdated/leftover samples...libraries and preschools often use them for children to sit on for story hour and such.

If you can get enough of the samples, you could just have an inexpensive subfloor/moisture barrier put in over the concrete; and you could tack the sample pieces into the subfloor for a totally funky play area rug!
post #4 of 16
We put a Pergo floor in our kitchen about 2 years ago. It is lamenant flooring that simulates hardwood floors. Theoretically it is cheaper and easier to install.

The pros: it looks nice enough, and is a tolerable substitute for hardwood floors. The cons: it is COLD and doesn't warm up like hardwood under your feet. And it's kind of hard. And it takes some skill to install (though the new version seems like it might be easier). And, IMHO, it's not THAT much cheaper than the real thing ($3-5 a square foot).

I give Pergo a 7 out of 10...
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the replies. I'll talk to my ll about the flooring and we can check out some costs. Cortlong- thank you for the tip on the rugs. I will email you. That is awesome!

What des anyone know about those vinyl tiles that you sick to the floor. I would probably need to lay down something first, huh?

L
post #6 of 16
I believe you have to have a sub-floor under "lick and stick" tile (that is just what we call it at our house...it has self adhesive and doesn't need additional glue/grout/etc.). The tile in the kitchen before the Pergo was this variety. We has a slow leak from the sink and it completely buckled the flooring. We had to rip it all out (tile and sub floor) and start from stratch with the Pergo.

One other benefit of Pergo is that you can lay it over anything, including concrete and/or carpeting. It is a "floating" floor, like hardwood. It expands and contracts with the humidity (like hardwood), and is not strictly speaking affixed to anything underneath. You use quarter round or other wall molding to cover the 1/4" gap around the edges.
post #7 of 16
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So pergo is alright, then? Are there any freaky health effects? Is it a kind of plastic?
post #8 of 16
We just bought a ton of Pergo and are going to be installing it in the next couple of weeks. (When I say a ton, I mean it - we've got 34 boxes of the stuff right now, and still need about 6 more...). Anyway, I'll let you know how it goes re the installation, but I can tell you what I found out when I was looking into Pergo.

1. We bought the top-of-the-line stuff (Pergo Signature) which has the pad already attached to the back. It cost $3.97 per square foot, was available at Lowe's and came in 17.59 sq. ft. boxes.

2. The stuff we bought is the glue-less, snap-together kind. Theoretically, you just have to *snap* the pieces together and lay them down. We'll see how easy it actually is in a week or so! But at least we don't have to glue it. No glue = no glue fumes, kwim?

3. All Pergo is basically wood composite with a picture of wood laminated on the top of it to make it look like real hardwoods. The guy at Lowe's said that it is basically just like a very thin kitchen countertop, if that makes sense?

4. The main reason we bought Pergo was to help with my (insane) allergies. I couldn't find any information anywhere that said that Pergo off-gasses or anything like that. Our friends have some in their house and never noticed off-gassing or anything like that, either. And a hard surface is great if you have allergies - no upholstery for allergens (especially pet dander and dust mites) to hide in.

I don't know if that helps at all or not! Good luck figuring out what you'd like to do! Oh, and I have seen *snap together laminate* (like Pergo, but different brands) available for as little as $1.99 a square foot, so it doesn't have to be $3.99 a square foot. We wanted the attached pad stuff so that we had one less installation step and so that the sound would be a little more natural. But it isn't a must. I've seen the $1.99 stuff, and some of it (depending on the color) looks great!!!
post #9 of 16
I hate to say this just after Mom2Katie's post, but I wouldn't buy pergo from Lowe's or Home Depot. The grades sold there are not as good as the grades sold elsewhere. The good stuff there is alright, I just wouldn't support the practices they use for the cheaper grades.
IKEA has very cheap laminate, so does Costco. Having installed the stuff, I'd say the laminate is easy as pie. Doing the trim work in interesting, though. If you already have baseboards, anyone can do it. Just rip those off and lay it, then put the baseboards back, with adjustment cuts at the doors and openings. Without any baseboards to start with, you'll be doing a LOT of trim carpentry. No biggie if you've got experience, but daunting otherwise.

For general floor covering, DON'T do peel and stick tiles, they get nasty on the seams, the adhesive comes through and picks up dirt and looks unclean. The tiles you see in stores are really laid in adhesive, and are not the peel and stick they appear to be. Those store floors require professional waxing, too.

I would recommend getting an area rug at Lowe's or the Depot, they tend to have pre-edged rugs in 11x14 for ~$30, plain colors. You can also get the carpet store to edge a rug for you, any color they stock. That can be a good deal, as carpet is relatively inexpensive without padding and installation. I'm sure they could tell you price on the phone, too. There are many carpet wholesalers near us, End of the Roll, Carpet Cents, etc. We got a remnant and laid it ourselves for about $120, as an example (incl. pad and tool rental).

I have also done a lot of vinyl floor laying. It's easy, too. If you can sew, you can lay vinyl. Get the Armstrong Kit, they will replace the floor if you screw it up (if you buy armstrong lino). Rooms less than 12' (in any direction) are soooo easy, there are no seams. Vinyl is much softer than pergo stuff! Laminate flooring is very very hard. Cold, too, unlike real wood. Real wood is the same price to install as laminate, but requires surface prep. The general rule is real wood for new construction (prep already done and it's level) and laminate for remodeling (little prep required and level is not so important). Vinyl in your living room WILL dent, it's not so good for furniture.

If it's concrete underneath, that complicates things a little, moisture will always come up through a slab floor. You will need to take that into account no matter what you do, but especially if you are using any sort of adhesive. However, doing it is even more important. Concrete + Carpet is a particularly bad combo for harboring allergy-inducing organisms.
post #10 of 16
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Concrete + Carpet is a particularly bad combo for harboring allergy-inducing organisms.
Oh- the carpet is SO gone! I'm tearing it out ASAP!

Thanks for all the tips!
Lauren
post #11 of 16
I am incredibly allergic to house dust. As soon as we get a house it will be zero carpet. I am making dh budget this in for when we do finally get one.

http://www.pergo.com/SplashDefault.asp

This site is neat, you can match flooring to different paint colors and stuff and see all the different types they have.
post #12 of 16
We just bought a house with Pergo in it and I like the way it looks but I think it is over-rated. It is a light maple color but it shows EVERY little streak when I clean it. I even bought the Pergo brand cleaner to spray on and wipe off with a damp towel or mop and it still streaks. I think a nice vinyl floor is much softer and easier to keep clean. Maybe a slightly darker color would be better. My allergies are much better here, I think it may be a combo of the pergo and dryer climate.
When I see how much stuff builds up on the floors over a few days it makes me glad I don't have carpet because you never noticie all of the junk in carpet, it kind of sinks in and hides.
post #13 of 16
Yeah, you are going to be so happy and so grossed out by the nastiness that accumulates. After all, you'll be getting rid of it, but you'll now have complete knowledge of what was hiding in your old carpet! Yuck!

It really makes your furniture look good, too. And cats have more fun. And you can Swiffer, which is fun. It's a good thing. tm
post #14 of 16
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Originally posted by Apricot
I hate to say this just after Mom2Katie's post, but I wouldn't buy pergo from Lowe's or Home Depot. The grades sold there are not as good as the grades sold elsewhere. The good stuff there is alright, I just wouldn't support the practices they use for the cheaper grades.
IKEA has very cheap laminate, so does Costco.

No worries! I'm happy (so far) with the Pergo we got there, and really couldn't find anything else anywhere else that I liked. I checked the stuff at Costco, but it was all too dark for our house. And honestly... we're not going to live here forever. I'd like to save up to put in bamboo flooring in our permanent home, but that's the subject of another post entirely.
post #15 of 16
Ah...bamboo flooring! Wonderful stuff!! We were about to have it installed here in Mum's house until she decided to buy a condo instead, lol.

Anyways, not an option for you veganmama, since you are renting and it's a bit pricey (about $5/sq foot) but it's just so beautiful and so eco-friendly!!
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I know. But someday...
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