circumcision scars cause cancer.

[tlh]

Carcinoma developed in circumcision scars on the penile shaft.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...t_uids=3944860



The tumors involved the prepuce (n = 1), prepuce and distal shaft (n = 1), circumcision scar line (n = 2), circumcision scar line and distal shaft (

http://www.ajsp.com/pt/re/ajsp/abstr...195629!8091!-1

[Papai]

Oh, another link to use in my arsenal. Thanks.

[Yulia_R]

thanks so much for the link.

[MommytoB]

my circumcised stepfather has prostate cancer -hoping it hasn't spread

[SammyJr]

That ought to put an end to the "Circumcised men just don't get penile cancer" crap once and for all.

[silverspook]

Anybody want to put this in idiot terms?

[RestoredIntactivst]

This reminds me that one of my dad's older friends is dealing with (according to my dad) penile cancer, which got me thinking and researching a week or two ago. Not sure about his circ status, which would be interesting, but totally not something I would ask!

Don't have a link, but apparently penile cancer, when it does develop, is more common on the end of the penis, either on the glans itself or the foreskin. So... I guess it would hold true that if we cut off the place it most often occurs, it would reduce the chances of developing the cancer.... just as infant breast removal for preventing breast cancer, automatic infant apendix removal to prevent apendicitis, or teeth removal for prevention of cavities.:

Obviously we don't perform those other surgeries willy-nilly, so why remove the foreskin?

[Yulia_R]

Originally Posted by RestoredIntactivst

This reminds me that one of my dad's older friends is dealing with (according to my dad) penile cancer, which got me thinking and researching a week or two ago. Not sure about his circ status, which would be interesting, but totally not something I would ask!

Don't have a link, but apparently penile cancer, when it does develop, is more common on the end of the penis, either on the glans itself or the foreskin. So... I guess it would hold true that if we cut off the place it most often occurs, it would reduce the chances of developing the cancer.... just as infant breast removal for preventing breast cancer, automatic infant apendix removal to prevent apendicitis, or teeth removal for prevention of cavities.:

Obviously we don't perform those other surgeries willy-nilly, so why remove the foreskin?

If this is indeed the case (tip of foreskin or tip of the glans), then at least if the cancer develops on the foreskin it can be removed (I'd assume) without the need to cut a part of penis of. On the other hand, those circ'd guys who get it on the tip of the glans will most likely loose a big chunk of their penises...just a thought...

[MamaB2C]

Neither study indicates that the circumcision scars caused cancer, only that in circumcised men who do get penile cancer, that is where it often presents.

The first study link only deals with treating cancer in circumcised men, saying surgery is the only effective treatment in that study.

The second link was talking about a specific type of rare cancer- and described where it appeared on the 14 subjects- and 3 happened to have tumors on their circumcision scar lines (2 had them on the foreskin). The entire sentence reads "The tumors involved the prepuce (n = 1), prepuce and distal shaft (n = 1), circumcision scar line (n = 2), circumcision scar line and distal shaft (n = 1), shaft (n = 5), base of the penis (n = 3), and penis, not otherwise specified (n = 1)"

These and other studies put lie to the mythical claim that circumcised men don't get penile cancer, but a causal relationship is not reported and shouldn't be interpreted.

Some scientists have hypothesized that the scar tissue may be more susceptible to HPV and therefore penile cancers, but nothing has been concluded.

[kate3]

Neither study indicates that the circumcisions scars caused cancer, only that in circumcised men who do get penile cancer, that is where it often presents

I'm glad I'm not the only one who realized this. HPV is most often the cause of penile cancer, and the scar itself does not cause cancer to form. Neither article supports this claim, and if you read the whole text and not just the abstract, this is very clear.
What the articles do show is that penile cancer can occur regardless of circumcision status.

[Fi.]

Neither study indicates that the circumcision scars caused cancer, only that in circumcised men who do get penile cancer, that is where it often presents.

While this is true, it still does disprove the myth of "circumcision presents penile cancer/circumcised men can't get penile cancer"

[MamaB2C]

Originally Posted by Fi.

While this is true, it still does disprove the myth of "circumcision presents penile cancer/circumcised men can't get penile cancer"

Yes, I agree and stated so later in my post.

There is no need to spread misinformation, however, in my opinion. The case against circumcision is strong without exaggerating things. Claiming that penile scars cause cancer is a very inaccurate interpretation of the studies.

[Fi.]

Originally Posted by MamaB2C

Yes, I agree and stated so later in my post.

There is no need to spread misinformation, however, in my opinion. The case against circumcision is strong without exaggerating things. Claiming that penile scars cause cancer is a very inaccurate interpretation of the studies.

Oh absolutely.