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post #1 of 14
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I also posted this in breastfeeding!

I am really struggling with breastfeeding. With DS#1 I struggled also and we survived. But DS#2 is completely different. DS#1 had a horrible latch, poor weight gain, and dealt with over active let down. He had explosive gas and the arching back. I remember all this and it was hard. I felt so responsible for his size.
Update with him. He is 19 lbs 11ozs 1 month ago and is now 19 lbs 4 ozs. He is loosing weight. He has never gained weight very well. I feed him so specifically and carefully. I have kept diet records for the doctors and they have told me that I "feed him better than 99% of their patients." They just discovered that he is anemic. His iron is 1/2 what it should be. I am so mad!!! I have had it checked before and I was never told. I only found out because I requested his records from the hospital. I never requested them before because I trusted the previous doctor telling me that all was okay. I would have done something more of gave him a larger supplement than just an iron fortified multivitamin. My new doctor says that won't make a difference. He says no vitamin will make a difference and that DS#1 is not absorbing his food. He is also low in protien. The doctor says it has nothing to do with what I am feeding him. I could feed him lots and it would not make a difference. The guess is that he has an autoimmune disease. We will be seeing a pediatric endocrinologist.
I know this is crazy, but I feel like he is dieing. I think it is some PPD. I am like mouring for my little boy. Giving his little white body a bath is really hard on me. I have been doing my best to keep him healthy and happy! The more DH and I ask him to eat the less he eats. He has some stomach virus over a week ago and has not started eating much yet. He used to eat tons and we would just gawck at how much he was eating. Now he eats just bites and if we give him food inbetween meals then he totally refuses food at meal time. We have tried everything I can think of to get him to eat.

I think this is effecting my breastfeeding with DS#2. DS#2 is growing well. He is 12 or 13 lbs and 7 weeks old. That is big compared to DS#1. They share onsies and diapers. I am terrified that DS#2 will quit eating. He doesn't eat very much or often. He is a "Baracuda" when he eats. DS#1 ate 24/7 and was always hungry and crying. DS#1 had green wormy like explosive stools. DS#2 has nice yellow seedy stools and only eats 6-8 times in a 24 hour period. Sometimes he only eats 4 times in a 24 hour period. When he does this I freak out. DS#2 will not comfort nurse. He only wants to eat when I he is truely hungary. He does not fall asleep at the breast. I am obsessed about feeding him and sometimes when I think he should eat I try to force him. He then goes on a nursing strike. I feel horrible about my two kids who don't want to eat. I am a mom and am supposed to feed my kids. That is my job.
My ideas as to why DS#2 doesn't like to nurse, arches his back, and screams at me when I put him to the breast when he doesn't feel like it.
-I have forced.
-My milk sprays out fast at letdown.
-He gets air even though he has a pretty good latch.
-My left breast doesn't work very well and my right breast if overactive.
-I am stressed out and tearful.
DS#2 sometimes eats at approx. 6:30 am, 8:00, 10:30, 1:30 pm, 5:30 , 8:30 pm, 11:00 pm, and 2:30 am. Fusses from 7-11 pm. He only eats for 1-2 minutes at each of these times. He doesn't eat even through one letdown. He stops and starts screaming at me. I can not figure out how he is getting enough to eat. Because of this I often try and force him to eat more often, bad idea! Sometimes he doesn't latch on or eat at all from the 1:30 am feeding until 11:00 am and on those days he then doesn't eat again until 8:30 pm and then he cluster feeds until 11 pm. I am so confused. Should I try a bottle. He is gaining weight so EVERYONE tells me not to worry. I am very afraid I am going to loose my milk supply and I will have two boys that I have failed at feeding.
This is very serious to me. I am very upset most of the time right now and I don't know what to do or who to help me. I want someone to help me with breastfeeding. Everyone tells me that he is gaining weight so stop worrying. He is not eating normally. He screams off an on through every single feeding. Everyone looks at me like what are you doing to that baby. He is a fat baby who HATES to eat. Sometimes he screams when I put him in position to eat. Sometimes he latches on and then waits to scream until the milk lets down. Sometimes he nurses well and swallows then screams after 1-2 mintues when the milk has slowed down, he screams like he wishes the waterfall wouldn't stop. I can not figure it out. There is not rhythm to the madness. I just want him to stop screaming at me when I try and feed him. He does do better if I feed him in a Mei Tai. He does better when I feed him before he wakes up from a day time nap, but not a night time nap. He doesn't nurse well at night. He just fusses. I pull him in bed with me at 2:30 and we sleep together until 7 am.
Can you help me? I appreciate your time. Thank you.
post #2 of 14
block nursing might not work with such an uneven sided supply but maybe....

have you tried tapping off the first strong let down then nursing??

also for ds1 .. celiac?? if not already tried maybe gluten free for sure and prob casein free diet?? www.GF/CFdiet.com has info..

also poss probioyics and maybe the specific carbohydrate diet and maybe look into him having parasites or poss heavy metal overload.. often aluminum or mercury with symptoms you describe

many many hugs mamma

come join us in our new home.. look back to where are we going thread for link
nak
post #3 of 14
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Thank you soooooo much!!!!!!!!!!
post #4 of 14
I do not have enough expereince to offer advice...
but I could not read this without sending hugs and saying that you sound like an excellent mom who is going through a tough time with feeding.
I hope you get this resolved soon--keep us posted!
post #5 of 14
I'm with Heidi!

I hope you can resolve this - such stress!
post #6 of 14
Wow mama. I have no advice, but trust your gut. Go to different doctors if the ones you have won't listen. You feel like something isn't right with either child, trust that. Keep pushing for answers.
post #7 of 14
You also might try lying down with your son on your chest or leaning waay back while feeding from the right breast. That way you don't have gravity working with you when you let down hard. That way he can minimize the gulping and the air he swallows.

Anna
post #8 of 14


i'm sorry you're having a terrible time, mama. i wish i had something to offer. you and your boys are in my thoughts and prayers.
post #9 of 14
: No answers, but sympathy... breastfeeding can be so fraught with emotion and anxiety. Have you talked to a lactation consultant?
post #10 of 14
It sounds like DS2 is growing well, so I really wouldn't be concerned at all about his eating schedule. AS far as arching his back & screaming then returnign to the breast only to arch his back & scream. My #2 did that also, and to my horror, the cure was a pacifier. She wanted to suck for comfort, but WAS NOT HUNGRY. She'd get angry when the milk would come out, so she'd arch her back & scream, then return to the breast for a teeny suckle and immediately scream and freak out again. Try not to let the stress of DS#1 affect your perceptions of DS#2's condition- he's healthy and thriving. I would definitely try a binky, though- 2 of my 5 kids needed them and they all ended up only using them for a month or so. I think they're disgusting, I guess I could have used a finger or something, but honestly, my hands are a bit busy.

DS#1 definitely sounds like celiac. I don't think it's right that they didn't tell you anything until the records were released. I hope you find a DR that helps you get to the root of this issue; it sounds like he's just not absorbing the nutrients from his food.

So odd to have your infant outgrowing him, how old is DS#1?

Take care; you're a good mamma and it sounds like DS#2 is perfectly normal. Gaining weight jsut fine. his nursing schedule doesn't sound odd either. If DS#1 is still nursing, and his digestive issues require you to change your diet, be assured that the milk will still be good for DS#2.

Deep breaths!
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by lisarussell View Post

DS#1 definitely sounds like celiac. I don't think it's right that they didn't tell you anything until the records were released. I hope you find a DR that helps you get to the root of this issue; it sounds like he's just not absorbing the nutrients from his food.

Deep breaths!
:

I was going to say that is sounds like celiac or even possibly Crohns disease, which is an autoimmune disease.

I don't have any advice really, but wanted to send you lots of support and
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for your support! I have had a hard few weeks. DS#1 is 22 months old! Thank you!
post #13 of 14
I know this is from a week ago, but I just wanted to say that your DS#1 problems really sound like celiac disease (gluten intolerance). One of the main symptoms is malabsorption.

My DH has celiac, so if you want more info just PM me. I'm usually online every few days at least.
post #14 of 14
Don't have much to offer for DS1, but for DS2, I agree with the pacifier suggestion. Also, have you ruled out acid reflux? I know some docs will just say any old baby has it and medicate anyone, but sometimes it is really legit. My ds had it, and it started getting bad around 7/8 weeks old. I thought the exact same thing...why doesn't my baby like to eat??!! After working with our doc, we added a reflux med several times a day, and I changed my hold during nursing to keep him as upright as possible. When I was cradle holding him, the acid would just wash up his little throat, but when I switched to the football hold, with his feet and belly down behind my side so that he was mostly upright, it helped a ton!! Also, held him upright for 10 to 30 min after feedings to help digestion, and that may have helped too. I'm not an expert, but what you are describing does sound similar to what we saw with ds.

Hang in there!! Good luck!
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