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post #21 of 36
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Originally Posted by zonapellucida View Post
I know I am going to drink wine later on. I had mW I had years ago reccommended it for really bad BH and for the anxiety I was having close to labor. Two glasses of a nice melot and I felt great. Use not abuse. ( I can also see me enjoying a Corona on July 4th )

Oh and I have been SLAMMED on other boards for my opinion.....
As our pregnancies progress and we grow anxious about our upcoming labors, I'll sit down and enjoy a fine merlot with you through cyberspace Zona!
post #22 of 36
I doubt I'll drink anything at all during my pregnancy, but I do shun people who do. To each her own...
post #23 of 36
It's one of those things that's changed very quickly within a couple of generations-I know my mom drank/smoked through pregnancy, and certainly wasn't alone!
It looks like I'm in the minority here who think it's not the greatest idea. For me, it's not a risk I'm willing to take. I've worked with kids with FAS. One of the moms involved in the program drank twice during her pregnancy-both times during the first tri, and both times just a couple of glasses of wine-and her kid has lifelong effects and will never be able to live independently. Yikes. (I'm not trying to be alarmist, it obviously affected me though). For me, this is the time I have to put the "best" into my child, nutritionally speaking, and goes along with several other choices I've made while I'm pregnant/nursing. I think it's a little different later in pregnancy-when everything is formed and the baby is just cooking. I had a little champagne the week before E was due, and at my MW's request, drank some wine in the bath the night before I went into labour to relax and get some sleep.
In my pre-child life, I definitely liked to drink regularly. I lost the palate for it with my last pregnancy, so it's not really that big a deal for me to give up, I guess!
post #24 of 36
I had sushi for dinner last night I did skip the sake though. the smell of alcohol turns my stomach these days. I don't see any problem with a glass of wine or a beer every once in a while if that's what you want and are comfortable with. I'm not comfortable drinking alcohol in quantity, I realize a glass of wine here and there is very unlikely to cause ill effects, it's just outside my own personal comfort zone. We're going out to a nice french restaurant for our annivesary at the end of January, and I might have a sip of DH's wine and not feel guilty about it.
post #25 of 36
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Originally Posted by fridgeart View Post
I've worked with kids with FAS. One of the moms involved in the program drank twice during her pregnancy-both times during the first tri, and both times just a couple of glasses of wine-and her kid has lifelong effects and will never be able to live independently.

Not sure that mom you are talking about was being very honest


I had a few sips of dark, bitter, syrupy beer at the end of my pregnancy and it was DIVINE. Porters and stouts really can be quite enjoyable I never had more than a small glass, and not more than a couple times. Mostly just because my palate and tummy didn't appreciate it.
post #26 of 36
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Originally Posted by Erinz View Post
Not sure that mom you are talking about was being very honest

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I have to admit that this was my reaction too. There have been many studies and none have linked such minimal drinking as 2 drinks during an entire pregnancy to FAS. One recent study, conducted in England by The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists included 400,000 American women, all of whom had consumed alcohol during pregnancy. Not a single case of fetal alcohol syndrome occurred and no adverse effects on children were found when consumption was under 8.5 drinks per week.

Anyway, I'm certainly not trying to talk anyone out of her comfort zone or suggest that women who do not feel comfortable drinking during pregnancy should do so. I just hate for women to feel panicked by anecdotal accounts unsupported by the research (not suggesting that the poster was misleading us but I would imagine that the woman whose child was severely disabled had more than 2 drinks during her entire pregnancy). My doctor told me one glass of wine each day was just fine.
post #27 of 36
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Originally Posted by peacelovingmama View Post
I have to admit that this was my reaction too. There have been many studies and none have linked such minimal drinking as 2 drinks during an entire pregnancy to FAS. One recent study, conducted in England by The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists included 400,000 American women, all of whom had consumed alcohol during pregnancy. Not a single case of fetal alcohol syndrome occurred and no adverse effects on children were found when consumption was under 8.5 drinks per week.

Anyway, I'm certainly not trying to talk anyone out of her comfort zone or suggest that women who do not feel comfortable drinking during pregnancy should do so. I just hate for women to feel panicked by anecdotal accounts unsupported by the research (not suggesting that the poster was misleading us but I would imagine that the woman whose child was severely disabled had more than 2 drinks during her entire pregnancy). My doctor told me one glass of wine each day was just fine.
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post #28 of 36
Not quite what I said-didn't say "severely disabled"-I said "lifelong effects" (minor, but obvious; there's a whole spectrum of FAS/FAE). And it wasn't an isolated incident she drank-it was a couple of incidents, and during the more high risk first tri. Did I submit her to a lie detector test? No, but I did work with her extensively, and have no reason to doubt her. I don't think my post was alarmist, I was answering the OP's Q about drinking during pregnancy/our comfort zone
post #29 of 36
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Originally Posted by fridgeart View Post
I don't think my post was alarmist, I was answering the OP's Q about drinking during pregnancy/our comfort zone
hi fridgeart,
i didn't think your comment was alarmist. i have recently been pondering this in regards to two of my close friends. my girlfriend has an 18 month old, who is currently functioning at an 8/9 month level. previous to her pregnancy she was a big wine drinker, but i never knewif she had a problem. i always wondered though. her daughter is gorgeous, but lately i've noticed that she does have the features of FAE - (very thin upper lip, and spacing between eyes and bridge of nose,) and now i'm wondering if there is more to her daughter's story. i know that overall she did everything to be healthy to her body, but i wonder if she slipped up enough to cause lasting effects. my other friend drank mildly throughout her pregnancy and her son also has minor learning disabilities. again i wonder.
luckily alcholol and me don't go well together, so personally i wont be drinking, but if i did enjoy drinking, i think i would just wait till after baby comes, or perhaps only little bits in the last trimester.
post #30 of 36
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Originally Posted by fridgeart View Post
Not quite what I said-didn't say "severely disabled"-I said "lifelong effects" (minor, but obvious; there's a whole spectrum of FAS/FAE).
It was your statement that he "will never be able to live independently" that says pretty severe disability to me. I guess I just find it hard to believe that 2 glasses of wine would produce that result, given that no studies support such a connection. And also, so many midwives and doctors recommend an occasional glass of wine for relaxation -- it is hard to fathom that they would do that if such minimal consumption really would result in a child who could never live independently.

Either way, we clearly have different comfort levels and that is ok. I'm glad we are all comfortable sharing our viewpoints on this issue. I hope there are no hard feelings and we can all support one another during our pregnancies, no matter which choices we make in this area.
post #31 of 36
Of course there are no hard feelings!
I just felt that what I'd say had been misinterpreted and wanted to clarify. To put a fine point on it, it was on two occasions during the first tri. By lifelong effects/not being to live independently, I meant that she is unable to judge good/bad choices. She can write, read, talk, etc., but she is a terrible judge of character and situations-very vulnerable, and very typical of FAS/FAE.
I don't have the info at hand (when I worked with this group I was in teacher's college; all the material is somewhere in storage), but the bottom line was that they (whoever "they" are, ha ha), couldn't conclusively say there was a "safe" amount during pregnancy. It's one of those things they're figuring out more about all the time. Not all sufferers of FAS/FAE have the characterisitic eye/lip disfigurements, so it can be harder to diagnose.

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/fasd-etcaf/faq_e.html#1
post #32 of 36
I drink a small amount. I don't drink a lot anyway.
post #33 of 36
In theory I don't have a problem with a glass of wine or beer every now and again. In practice the idea (and I normally love the taste of beer) makes me dry heave so no drinking for me.
post #34 of 36
Definitely no drinking here, for many reasons.

- DP is a recovering alcoholic so I wouldn't feel good drinking when she isn't
- Went through an awful lot to get pg, so not into taking any risks
- Don't particularly like drinking anyway

There's a campaign by the health dept here which declares that there is no safe level of alcohol consumption during ttc or pregnancy.
post #35 of 36
Fridgeart - I've been a foster parent for years and went thru many hours of training for FAS/FAE because we had many children that came into our lives that were FAS/FAE. And I can say that I know what you're talking about, and understand what you're saying. In one of the trainings I went to they did say that one drink can cause FAE if at the msot perfect time, other trainings said it took many drinks, others said they didnt know how much but figured none was safe... I dont think there is a perfect answer to it - I dont think anyone knows what that "exact amount is".

I personally would never take that chance. The way I look at it - 9 months of pregnancy and 2 to 3 yrs of nursing is nothing to not drink, etc out of the grand scheme of my entire life. They only get one first chance, so why not make it the best I can?

Do I care what other ppl do when they are pregnant - nope, its their body and their baby... So to each their own.
post #36 of 36
I think that half a glass of natural wine or natural beer is okay. I don't really like most alcohols so I stay away anyway.

The more artificial the alcohol the worse it is for you and baby, IMO.
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