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post #1 of 12
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I have NO idea where to post this, and needed to start somewhere:

my dad and third wife have been off and on for past two years. They both drink, have been through bad divorces, take multiple perscriptions and are generally uneasy people to be around!

Having said all that:
I am pretty close to my dad, as close as anyone can be. I work for him, so that is a big part of it- we have that in common. I know how impossible he is and feel for her there - I know their marriage can not have been easy owning in large part to his anger and distance.

since their marriage has gone sour she has started accusing him of physical abuse. I don't believe this for a moment - both my mom and first stepmom (who was married to him while I was growing up) say that is rediculous. And while I know he spanked my older siblings - he never did with the four youngest including me. His way was (is) cold and withdrawn when angry.
However - when she first started saying this, she would call me and tell me she was scared and wanted me to talk to him in hopes he would change -this was about 3 years ago now. I dealt with about 3 of those calls, first I did what she asked and talked to my dad - he said no way he ever touched her. Then I told her what he said and told her while I could not imagine my dad being physical - that I could not ignore a woman claiming this - told her to call the police or go to a woman's shelter. When she refused twice and kept saying she just thought he would change if I talked to him, I told her she could not put me in this position anymore, to stop calling me.

She did talk to my mom and sil once or twice, they gave her the same advice - though none of us think my dad would do this - none are willing to ignore her.

Three years later:
None of us have any relationship with her, my dad has tried to leave three times. She got a temp restraining order against him once by claiming to police (yes she finally called) that he hit her - she did go to womens shelter and got help from them to go to court and try to get permanent order. She filed for divorce. Then when they went to court she admitted to the judge she did it to try and get some kind of court order for him to pay her money. I mean literally when the judge brought up her accusations of abuse she blurted out, "I would do anything for money!" The judge threw out the order, saying he felt this was all about money and did not believe there was any abuse.

After that my dad did move back home for a bit - he was living in his office and was barely making it. They are in way over their heads with a house they built that they owe more on than it's worth, his business has taken quite a hit from the upheaval in his life, he is a total wreck and had a small heart attack from all the stress last year. So while he wants to leave her he can't afford to keep up payments on the house while living elsewhere.

While he was back to living at home, he took to carrying a recording device everywhere with him. Whenever she comes near or starts talking he turns it on - and boy what he has recorded! Her threatening to kill him, herself, paranoid talk, also her physically pushing him around, tearing apart his bedroom and home office. So he has gone to the police - ask them to listen to the tape (he was looking for some kind of help for her) they tell him to move out. It is becoming like a bad Life time movie, basically they can't do anything until she does something to him. I think she is actually trying to goad him into becoming violent.

She does not work, has not their whole marriage, she 60 years old and scared. She says she wants the money she brought into the marriage. My dad has offered her whatever she wants if she will leave - go back to where her son lives down south. She refuses.

So here we are: My dad has moved out again, BUT basically he feels like he is throwing his life (financially and business wise) and hers away(literally). She has no way to take care of herself - he thinks she is mentally unstable and needs serious help. She doesn't keep food in the house, clean or take care of herself. when he lived there he did all her shopping for her and paid bills, and cleanup what he could. But to save himself - he has to stay away, this is what the cops have told him. They also said if she came to office to call them and they would be right down - she has harassed him there.

Her son won't return his calls, she has no friends, parents are dead - only child, the police can't help, her doctors recommended serious intervention years ago, he even went to the woman's shelter today to ask them to help. They said there is nothing they could do. Yesterday he had me call her to see if she had groceries. She said she did not want to talk to me and hung up. He was trying to avoid communicating with her - had left a message with her to use email when she need anything - money or food - so he could keep his distance.

She called him in a panic today saying she needed drinking water, he went over with it - said all her jewelry and clothes were in the trash out front and the house smells like urine. He's freaked out, doesn't know what will happen to her. He's afraid she could just die and no one would know. I've never seen my dad cry till this. They were high school sweethearts, and though the marriage has been over for awhile - he still cares what happens to her.

So - what I need is advice - how can we get her help without being her support. Anyone know who we can go to? I'll admit I have not really done research. I'm pregnant, tired and though I feel worried about her as a fellow human being - I've never been close to her, never liked her but did try to have a relationship with her early on. But this is just wrong.

Thanks for reading, please help.
post #2 of 12
Could he have her committed to a mental hospital? Maybe he should consult a lawyer. Your description sounds like someone in complete mental breakdown. If she could get some help maybe they could have a civil divorce. So sad!
post #3 of 12
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thank-you for replying! I don't know if he can get her committed or not? I thought if she threatened her own life he could get her held for a certain period for observation, but apparently not through the cops. Maybe we need to call county mental health. This is seriously scary.

He is going to have to suck it up and hire a lawyer.
He doesn't trust anyone and has no money to spend on anything. He is still paying her and his lawyers from when she originally filed for divorce (which she dropped) also from when he was arrested for going home one night when he thought she was out of town when she had the temp restraining order.

I guess I need to do my own research and maybe go down to the women's shelter/resource center myself. I'm afraid he's going to have another heart attack from the pressure and worry. I know he's not sleeping well, is barely able to keep up with work - both their lives are nightmares. I may try contacting her son myself - but he just doesn't seem to care. She told me a few weeks ago (they asked me to come over and try to do mediation when he was still back at home) that she and her son talk every week. Well, why the F*ck doesn't he come up and help her? I don't get it. She says it's because he doesn't like to be around my dad (they never liked each other - he never seemed to like anyone to me), but I know my dad has left him at least two messages saying that she needs serious help - nothing.

I just wish she would go away. I know that is terrible and don't for a minute blame her for all of this - I think your right she is going really nuts. That is obvious, but what to do when a person refuses help.

OK, lawyer. Thank you for your advice. He said he was going to call one last week, but I don't think he's done it.

I'm starting to loose sleep over this. It's too surreal.
sorry I'm rambling
post #4 of 12
He should speak with a lawyer and with his local resource for elder care. (Google your home state and "elder care" and you should get some links.)

There are two forms of legal control a person has over their own life: legal and medical. He can petition the court, based on the evidence, to be given legal and/or medical decision-making powers for his wife. This is easier with her cooperation, obviously, but you can do it without if the evidence is strong enough. It sounds like medical power-of-attorney should be his priority -- then he could have her admitted for evaluation and treatment, be able to speak with her doctors and make informed decisions on her behalf, etc. (Because even a spouse can't make a medical decision for their partner unless their partner is incapacitated or legally declared incompetent.)

I suggest him consulting with elder care, too, because even though she's on the threshold age-wise, elder care has a lot of experience dealing with these kinds of situations, where one partner may end up trying to take care of the other against their will, while they're dealing with a mentally-incapacitating condition. They may be able to outline the steps he can take to get treatment for his wife and to protect himself and his assets.
post #5 of 12
call her son, that's the first step.

beyond that, he can sell the house, get out form under some of that debt, get moving on a divorce after the house is sold and whatever debts can be taken care of through that are taken care of.
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
OK first the move here makes sense, thanks...

we'll look into elder care today, I never would have thought of that.
post #7 of 12
If she has deteriorated to the point that she has put her belongings out on the porch and the house reeks of urine you may want to consider calling the police to do a welfare check.
post #8 of 12
oh wow. nothing to add but hugs, mama.
post #9 of 12
I would call county mental health---and--has your dad considered a short sale of the home?
post #10 of 12
Mental health, geriatric services, her family doctor, a crisis hotline - all places you can try calling and someone will be able to get you on the right track for your area.
post #11 of 12
here we have adult protective services for situations like this. is that an option?
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
Sometimes I get caught up in life and forget to reply! We've been very sick around here!

I did start looking into some of your suggestions - thanks for all of them by the way. Elderly care, contacting her son, emergency help. Her son just won't respond. My dad is still going over there taking her food and running errands for her. She emailed me to apologize for hanging up on me on the phone. She also started cleaning up the house and told my dad she wants to try mediation again to get a divorce settlement going.

I don't know what is going to happen. I do know I about a month away from birth and am going to try to distance myself - the emotional toll is just too much right now.

As far as them selling the house, I think they will end up going into foreclosure. My dad wants to talk and complain, but doesn't seem to want to take too much action. I know he is depressed and overworked, but I need to step back. He is staying with one of my brother's now, so he has someone else to talk to on a regular basis.

thanks again for your replies. I am always greatful I can come here and get so much help.
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