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post #21 of 41
Thread Starter 
Many elements in common but not the same story, really. In 'Outside' there is a changling (in this case an ice baby, though changlings traditionally can take many other forms) while in 'Labyrinth' the baby is just kidnapped with no substitution. Also in 'Outside' the older sister is strictly a rescuer and the baby is the only prize, in Labyrinth sister is actually the target. The ultimate plot on Labyrinth is to kidnap the babe which will lure the girl to come rescue her at which time she will be captured and used as bait to caoture a unicorn. Or tame a unicorn. Or something like that.
post #22 of 41
ahhh. thank you. Been awhile since I watched the whole movie...gawd I used to adore David Bowie:
post #23 of 41
Thread Starter 
Why the rolled eyes? Bowie is dead sexy, baby!
post #24 of 41
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... by kama'aina mama
... Bowie is dead sexy, baby!
Mmm-hmmm.

Saw him on Broadway in "The Elephant Man." A highlight of my misspent youth.
post #25 of 41
Dear Mom2six:

I hope you do not mind, this is alittle T, but Carole King had a baby at home in 1971 delivered by the same doc I used for my first two. I always liked her! Graham Nash too.
post #26 of 41
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Originally posted by kama'aina mama
The ultimate plot on Labyrinth is to kidnap the babe which will lure the girl to come rescue her at which time she will be captured and used as bait to caoture a unicorn. Or tame a unicorn. Or something like that.
sounds like you're infusing labyrinth with some of the plot of 'legend' with mia sara, tom cruise & tim curry. (movie junkie - don't get out much)
in labyrinth, the goblin king (david bowie... mmmmmm...) wants the young girl to forget about her baby brother and fall in love with him - like that's hard - and stay with him in the goblin city.
in outside over there, ida's sailor papa is away at sea, and goblins kidnap her sister "to be a nasty goblin's bride" leaving a changeling all made of ice. ida has to travel into outside over there to rescue her and bring her home. T

anyway...
we (okay - it's my doing...) are huge sendak fans.
i've never felt that anything in his works would frighten my children, or disturb them. i think children can really identify with max, and his need to be a wild thing, and then be done with it and come back to his room and just be a boy, who wants to feel in control of himself again, and loved unconditionally.
and my son loves 'outside over there' and heroic ida.
'we are all in the dumps with jack and guy' is actually two old nursery rhymes, 'we are all in the dumps' and 'jack and guy' - that sendak merged to create a wonderful story about finding family in different ways; and make a social commentary at the same time.
he did beautiful illustrations for george macdonald's 'the golden key' and 'the light princess' - and i second the 'dear mili' reccommendation. (my daughter is right now looking at it as she attempts to use the potty )
sendak has said that he thinks children can understand his books perhaps better than adults. i find myself identifying & reconnecting with my own childhood through his work. sometimes i think we forget that it is an inherently scary thing at times to be a child. i remember very much being able to be drawn into sendak and feel at home. his imagery is wonderful.
just my experience.
post #27 of 41
Thread Starter 
I never could keep those movies straight! :LOL

So is it Labyrinth that has the unicorn? And is there no baby in that one at all?

Obviously the changling legends are a great jumping off point for all kinds of great stories.
post #28 of 41
nope - okay here goes - stay with me
legend is the one with the unicorn.
the lord of darkness (tim curry!) plans to create eternal night by killing every unicorn in the world. he kidnaps & plans to marry the fairy princess lili (mia sara).
her lover jack (young & sexy tom cruise with long hair... ahem. anyway...) and his elven friends must save the world and the princess.
at least, that's it in a serious nutshell.
no babies involved.

in labyrinth, sara (jennifer connelly) has to babysit her baby brother toby while her parents go out for the night. she loves fantasy stories, and hates babysitting, so when the baby starts crying, she wishes for the goblin king to come take the baby away - which - surprise!!! - he does.
to get him back, she has to travel through the castle labyrinth and enter the goblin city in 13 hours, or toby will become a goblin forever.
the plot twist is that king jareth (david bowie) is in love with sara and wants her to forget about the baby.
no changeling involved though.

i stole my brother's copy of labyrinth and have no immediate plans to return it...
post #29 of 41
All right except that the Mia Sara character is just a regular princess, not a fairy princess - there's another character who's a fairy, but not a princess, who's in love with the Tom Cruise character.

And now I will have that "legends can be now and foreeeever" song in my head...
post #30 of 41

ok - i think i'm all straightened out now...

i'm not having a song problem - just dh walking around the house and every once in a while saying "eat... drink..." in a demonic tim curry-offering-just-princess-lili-some-refreshment voice.
and what the heck was the name of that fairy, anyhow???
that's going to bug me...
post #31 of 41
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post #32 of 41

the fairy's name

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Originally posted by organicbanana
and what the heck was the name of that fairy, anyhow???
that's going to bug me...
I believe her name was Oona.

Legend is one of my all-time fave movies!
post #33 of 41
yay! thank you!
[end/brain wracking]
post #34 of 41
Speaking of oddness in children's books, how about Chris Van Allsberg and any of his books

Jumanji, The "Z" was Zapped, Two Bad Ants, Collection of Harry Burdick, Just a Dream , In the Garden of Abdul Gasazi, The Stranger, The Witch's Broom... to name just a few.
post #35 of 41
While we are revisiting this topic, did anyone happen to catch the Terri Gross interview on NPR with Maurice Sendak a few months ago? It was during carpool time and the kids were ticked off at me that I was sitting in the driveway to listen to the end of it :LOL . Anyway the link to hear it online is here. An interesting interview, but a very (admittedly) troubled man with a troubled upbringing. Worth a listen for those who love his books - and I'm planning on getting a copy of his new book.
post #36 of 41
He has designed the set and costumes for the Nutcracker in Seattle at the Pacific Northwest Ballet. It is INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was absolutely delighted and when clara and the prince are sailing the seas, a wild thing appears for a quick second. What a trip!
post #37 of 41
The thing that confuses me is that Little Bear is so sweet and cure, but his other books are a little on the strange side. I wonder if he was into smokin?!



My hubby also wondered if he practiced wicca or another nature- based religeon/philosphy because in Little Bear they had this really cool ceremony honoring winter solstice...
post #38 of 41
the little bear series were written by else holmlund minarik - not sendak. he just illustrated those books.
he's done a lot of illustrating for other authors. ruth krauss, meindert dejong, janice may udry among them.
post #39 of 41
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Originally posted by applejuice
Speaking of oddness in children's books, how about Chris Van Allsberg and any of his books

Jumanji, The "Z" was Zapped, Two Bad Ants, Collection of Harry Burdick, Just a Dream , In the Garden of Abdul Gasazi, The Stranger, The Witch's Broom... to name just a few.
Ooooooh, how about The Polar Express? One of the few children's books I've read recently that sends actual shivers down my spine!
post #40 of 41
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because in Little Bear they had this really cool ceremony honoring winter solstice...
Was this in one of the books or on the tv show? I think I've read all the books and don't remember a winter solstice ceremony. Very well could be wrong. If it was the tv show, well, E.H. Minarik has been gone for a while and while -I- love the pagan references (and the meditating frog who says, "ommmmm"), I don't think Minarik would have included that in her stories. Sendak produces the show.

I just love the show. Too bad my baby is getting too old for it.
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