Originally Posted by moonfirefaery
Oh, so if something was once commonly used as discipline, that means it's ok for today?
Should I then cane my child the next time he displeases me?
I'm not going to discipline my son how my grandmother did my dad. Moreover, I personally would rather have bar soap in my mouth, which is a whole lot easier to get out than dish soap. Not to mention, bar soap is for bodies; dish soap is for dishes. Toothpaste is for mouths; why not brush the child's teeth for it instead?
Of course not and I never said this.
As this was not an act of striking a child, I do not see how we jump to caning. There are many other forms of punishment that have a component of physical force, and are humiliating or coercive or unpleasant, but do not involve striking. As this forum is anti-punishment in any form, that goes without saying, but it does not make caning = washing mouth out with soap.
I believe it is good to understand where things come from in terms of building the empathy that is extremely useful in any attempt to change a behavior.
I might imagine the liquid soap was anything but an act in the heat of the moment, parent takes child in to use soap, doesn't find soap, and uses the thing that is like soap. I would imagine the parent was either uninformed of the differences between something like an unpleasant nontoxic soap and dish liquid, or the parent didn't remember in the heat of anger.
Each generation makes changes. Blind worship of the "new deal" in parenting is not intellectually sound, and is not how I practice parenting. I like to look at history to see how things were done and then decide on an issue by issue basis how to parent.
It is one level of failure to fall back on one's cultural teachings about childrearing and be wrong. It is another to go to lengths to figure out ways to make someone suffer. That doesn't make either of them "right." However, I very clearly delineate this in my thoughts about people and their behavior.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing...outh_with_soap