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post #101 of 1068
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Ok, who frickin' loves that wooden case with all 38 remedies?! And which kid will I sell so that I can posess it for my own!!!!!!!!
It's great. My only criticism is that you can't see which remedy is which without taking them out.
post #102 of 1068
oh wow! I just found this thread and have to backtrack and read it all, but I am subbing and wish there was a sticky list of books and resources already...lol!

I have always had RR in the house...since my now 21 yo daughter was new, read alot back then, but am definitely RElearning and fuzzy. I have 'Heal Thyself' in the archives and will read that again for sure!

Homeopathy has been the same...read tons 'back then' and am relearning since Aidan came.

I am looking at the lovely little basket of supplements(gut healing and teeth issues) on my counter and wondering now, how to trim and/or redirect. So much to learn!! wahoo to you, Firefaery for starting this thread!

cait
post #103 of 1068
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and when you think you had it all figured out....

http://www.deltagardens.com/

his stuff is SO lovely!

Also, check out uccomama's link that she posted. I've been LIVING on that site!
post #104 of 1068
Wow. Beautiful stuff. Love the amulets. There are 3 or 4 I really want.
post #105 of 1068
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What an awesome thread!

My 3 year old son has been through quite a bit in his life. There were issues around his conception, I had PPD, and then his father and I separated and are divorcing. He witnessed more than he should have with that--there was some violence that he saw. I also just went out of town for 2 weeks to complete certification in a really awesome modality. He has not handled it well--been really clingy. Angry. I think he felt abandoned. (I've been out of town for this before, but he went somewhere and was with fun relatives. This time he had the regular routines without me)

His ex-preschool teacher described him as unproductive, noncompliant and that his aggression was escalating.

I really want assist in clearing some of this out so that it is not with him forever.

I want to take him to a classical homeopath when I get the bucks. If firefaery or anyone else has some thoughts on flower essences or remedies they would be greatly appreciated!

ETA: Also, he is very demanding and the changes his mind.

Maybe crab apple for cleansing and Pine for guilt? Gorse, sweet chestnut or vine? Star of bethlehem for shock??
How did I miss this?

Definitely star of bethlehem. I'm not hearing gorse or sweet chestnut, but that doesn't mean you are wrong. Let's keep chatting...

I would also do aspen for him, cherry plum and holly as well.

Can you talk more about the why you chose the ones you did? When he changes his mind does he flop between two things or jump from thing to thing to thing? Is he mean at times? Controlling?

Are you open to flowers that aren't part of Bach's 38? If so I have a few other suggestions....possibly chamomile, evening primrose, mariposa lily, and fairy lantern. Oh, and maybe fawn lily? I'd have to hear more. Does he seem withdrawn? Do you think he is angry with his father (I'm sorry if I'm jumping to conclusions here...was he the abuser your ds witnessed?) Is he depressed?

What modality???
post #106 of 1068
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I have someone who is well loved by many that takes cases over the phone if you are interested in going that route. She is just finishing school for classical homeopathy. She has gotten glowing reviews and probably wouldn't charge as much as someone who is already in practice. I can't say what her rates are, though. I just know that everyone I know who has seen her loves her.
post #107 of 1068
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Uccomama-I was just reading through your dh's stuff...again Do you do MAP sessions? I'm jsut curious because his directions for picking out essences reference many of the people I use in MAP's. I know that it is very connected to flower essences in many ways....so, I'm being nosy!
post #108 of 1068
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Can you talk more about the why you chose the ones you did? When he changes his mind does he flop between two things or jump from thing to thing to thing? Is he mean at times? Controlling?

Are you open to flowers that aren't part of Bach's 38? If so I have a few other suggestions....possibly chamomile, evening primrose, mariposa lily, and fairy lantern. Oh, and maybe fawn lily? I'd have to hear more. Does he seem withdrawn? Do you think he is angry with his father (I'm sorry if I'm jumping to conclusions here...was he the abuser your ds witnessed?) Is he depressed?

What modality???
Thank you Firefaery. I'm going to send you a PM with the answers to the personal stuff.

I'm totally open to other essences. I have some from http://www.greenhopeessences.com/ as well as some Bach ones. I like the Green Hope ones a lot. They use a different stabilizer--reishi I think-and the essences are pink and beautiful. Really nice for kids. I've been muscle testing the essences I do have for him.

I'll research the ones you suggested other than Bach today.

I chose crab apple for cleansing--just thinking about moving everything out of his energetic body. Is it perhaps for more physical ailments? And perhaps I am trying to impose something on him here.

I chose Pine because kids tend to blame themselves when their parents split. Don't know that he does but seemed like a possibility.

Sweet chestnut for anguish. Or gorse for hopelessness.

Vine for persuading others to do things his way. He is very adamant about how to do things and will attempt to have everyone do things his way. He is controlling.

He is withdrawn in situations or groups of people that he doesn't want to be in. When he is engaged he lights up the whole room--sparkly brown eyes, beautiful smile, a dimple in his cheek and a cleft in his chin. And so sweet and loving. And enthusiastic.

I wouldn't say depressed really. I would say more of a melancholy vibe at times. He goes between this very animated state and an almost sullen one.

He'll say he wants something--like a beverage. He gets it. Then he doesn't want it. Then he wants a different drink. He gets that if it is convenient. Doesn't want it. Wants the other thing. Back and forth between the two things. Demanding and right now...

The cherry plum sounds like a good match--the doing things known wrong but having the impulse. Aspen also sounds like a good basis.

The holly I'm not sure about. Attacked by thoughts might be a match but I think there is a cause for his suffering.

And I did give him a homeopathic camomilla earlier in the week--seemed indicated for the clinginess and the flip-flopping. I have seen some improvement this week--also took him out of preschool and have been focusing on lots of fun time.

I would love the info on your student homeopath.

I also realized that last summer, when I went out of town for two weeks, I did remedy bottles for both the boys to use when they wanted to. I think varying combos of aspen, chicory, mimulus and mustard.
post #109 of 1068
I just looked at the non-Bach ones you recommended Firefaery and the evening primrose, mariposa lily and fairy lantern are exactly what I was hoping to address! Really getting at the core issues. The chamomile would also be good.

Is there a place that you know that has all of them?
post #110 of 1068
This is a sweet thread. I have been interested in essences for a long time and have used them for many years. I live in Alaska and we have a company that creates essences from local plants. It is so nice to take flowers into my body and know that they come from the land around me.

The kits are great! Boy I would love to have all those essences on hand.
post #111 of 1068
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I just looked at the non-Bach ones you recommended Firefaery and the evening primrose, mariposa lily and fairy lantern are exactly what I was hoping to address! Really getting at the core issues. The chamomile would also be good.

Is there a place that you know that has all of them?
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post #112 of 1068
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Uccomama-I was just reading through your dh's stuff...again Do you do MAP sessions? I'm jsut curious because his directions for picking out essences reference many of the people I use in MAP's. I know that it is very connected to flower essences in many ways....so, I'm being nosy!
FF, here is DH's reply. No, I don't do anyone else's work.
post #113 of 1068
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I'm totally open to other essences. I have some from http://www.greenhopeessences.com/ as well as some Bach ones. I like the Green Hope ones a lot. They use a different stabilizer--reishi I think-and the essences are pink and beautiful. Really nice for kids. I've been muscle testing the essences I do have for him.

I chose crab apple for cleansing--just thinking about moving everything out of his energetic body. Is it perhaps for more physical ailments? And perhaps I am trying to impose something on him here.

I chose Pine because kids tend to blame themselves when their parents split. Don't know that he does but seemed like a possibility.

Sweet chestnut for anguish. Or gorse for hopelessness.

Vine for persuading others to do things his way. He is very adamant about how to do things and will attempt to have everyone do things his way. He is controlling.

The cherry plum sounds like a good match--the doing things known wrong but having the impulse. Aspen also sounds like a good basis.

The holly I'm not sure about. Attacked by thoughts might be a match but I think there is a cause for his suffering.

And I did give him a homeopathic camomilla earlier in the week--seemed indicated for the clinginess and the flip-flopping. I have seen some improvement this week--also took him out of preschool and have been focusing on lots of fun time.

I would love the info on your student homeopath.
That is too funny...I just tried a Green Hope Essence this morning! The are lovely!

Okay...let me just clarify a few things which may clear up some confusion:
the cherry plum is more for loss of control, or compulsion to do things that are outside the range of normal. It is generally given when people start spiraling, so if you are seeing rage, or aggression this would be given with holly to release that pattern.

Holly is specifically anger, rage, jealousy etc. If you are seeing acts of aggression or the beginnings of it this would be a very good fit.

How is he controlling? Is he demanding? Like a "do this because I said so" kind of thing? Or will he try to entice you to do it his way because it's better? Does he direct or try to win you over with enthusiasm and just bulldoze you?

Crab apple is generally more for fastidious people who have self-loathing issues. They can't stand imperfection and need things to be "clean." They would be appalled at a blemish or stain for instance. For energy clearing star of bethlehem is a better choice IMO. It released old patterns and hurt. It is the comfort flower.

Sweet Chestnut in my opinion is not an everyday sort of a flower, and maybe others would disagree. It is the "dark night of the soul" flower. It is the back is up against the wall and there is no way out and I want to just close my eyes and never wake again flower. It is generally taken acutely when the patients world has just come crashing down. From your description he isn't really in that place. But, you could muscle test him and see if I'm wrong. Different people do use them differently. In this instance I would still say star.

Gorse is an absolute hopeless place. When a person goes all gorsey there is pretty much nothing you can do to even get a glimmer of hope. They have just resigned and nothing is going to work out. They can plod along, there's just no light at the end of the tunnel. Gentian may be a better fit. It's up to you. Gentian would be similar to gorse, but there is a flicker of hope somewhere. It may be deep down, but the difference between a gorse and a gentian is that when given a solution or happy thought a gorse person will turn their back, whereas a gentian will give it a shot, not really believing it will work. Gentian gives faith and willingness to try...he sounds like he still has a spark.

If you are really feeling pine, go for it! I'm not sure I see that, but again this was a quick online discussion and you know him best. Just remember it's best to treat what you actually see, or what he expresses rather than guessing. If you see that he shoes signs of guilt by all means give it!

I will send you her info. I just up my computer time for the moment, so I'll make sure you get it later today.

If I said anything off base, let me know.
post #114 of 1068
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FF, here is DH's reply. No, I don't do anyone else's work.
I'm sorry...I don't understand. He doesn't do MAP sessions? Meaning not for himself, or not for others? I didn't know you *could* do it for other people.

When you do a session (as you may know) you call Deva's, the White Brotherhood and your Higher Self and he seems to advocate using them for picking essences which you can do during a session. I know Maechelle Small Wright is somehow associated with Perelandra...and I would not guess he uses her essences, but I'm more interested to find people who do the actual sessions. MAP is something each individual does (as far as I know) to heal and bring themselves into alignment.

Does he not think it's effective? Sorry for all the questions.
post #115 of 1068
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I'm sorry...I don't understand. He doesn't do MAP sessions? Meaning not for himself, or not for others? I didn't know you *could* do it for other people.

When you do a session (as you may know) you call Deva's, the White Brotherhood and your Higher Self and he seems to advocate using them for picking essences which you can do during a session. I know Maechelle Small Wright is somehow associated with Perelandra...and I would not guess he uses her essences, but I'm more interested to find people who do the actual sessions. MAP is something each individual does (as far as I know) to heal and bring themselves into alignment.

Does he not think it's effective? Sorry for all the questions.
Sorry, he obviously didn't understand the question. I think he was assuming you meant Maechelle Small Wright's work directly, which he doesn't do obviously. I am also still not sure what your are getting at, boy I must be dense today. For research and personal stuff, DH consults Hilarion through Jon Fox. Does that answer your question?
post #116 of 1068
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How is he controlling? Is he demanding? Like a "do this because I said so" kind of thing? Or will he try to entice you to do it his way because it's better? Does he direct or try to win you over with enthusiasm and just bulldoze you?


If you are really feeling pine, go for it! I'm not sure I see that, but again this was a quick online discussion and you know him best. Just remember it's best to treat what you actually see, or what he expresses rather than guessing. If
Thank you. This is a huge help. The answer to the first paragraph is yes. He uses all of it at different times. Very demanding and bossy. Wants everything right now. He'll do it as a definitive thing, he'll charm sometimes and he'll bulldoze. Some of it is just because he is three but I think it goes deeper.

I think I'm projecting on the Pine. I don't actually see the guilt in him. Note to self: treat what you see.

I think the cherry plum and holly sound right for when I start seeing spiraling behavior.

The evening primrose, mariposa lily and fairy lantern sound like a nice blend to give to him for awhile.

Now I want to take the Bach classes.
post #117 of 1068
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This is a sweet thread.
Fancy seeing you here.
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Fancy seeing you here.
It's been a while! I'll PM you in the coming days.



Alaskan Essences offers kits that are much less pricey. One can also create their own custom kit. I do not know how the quality compares to Bach and other brands, but thought I'd throw it out there.

FF I have been taking Bach's Cherry Plum and like the tip on combining it with Holly. I am going to get some this weekend. Thanks!
post #119 of 1068
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It's been a while! I'll PM you in the coming days.



Alaskan Essences offers kits that are much less pricey. One can also create their own custom kit. I do not know how the quality compares to Bach and other brands, but thought I'd throw it out there.

FF I have been taking Bach's Cherry Plum and like the tip on combining it with Holly. I am going to get some this weekend. Thanks!
Most companies will allow you to design your own kit. As far as I know Alaskan Essences are good quality, but I have no experience with them myself.

Do you need holly? Are you feeling like you are lashing out, angry or rageful? I would almost always suggest adding cherry plum to holly, but only adding holly to cherry plum if you are having those specific holly issues...does that make sense?
post #120 of 1068
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Sorry, he obviously didn't understand the question. I think he was assuming you meant Maechelle Small Wright's work directly, which he doesn't do obviously. I am also still not sure what your are getting at, boy I must be dense today. For research and personal stuff, DH consults Hilarion through Jon Fox. Does that answer your question?
Yes and no I knew (or figured!) that he did consult Hilarion. Perhaps between that and hte fact that he is the grand-daddy of essences and elixirs and has a SUPER diet he doesn't need MAP!

I don't know a ton about Maechelle Small Wright's other work, just the MAP. It is sort of a self healing program that you do every couple of days. You have your guides work on you while you are sleeping, essentially. They repair damage as well as strengthen your body. I was first told about them by an intuitive because of my past issues...which you know all about. I never followed up with it-until recently. I know a few others that do it, and with great success. I was just curious if you or your dh did it, as there is so much crossover in the info on his site. I know that's not where it came from, I was just curious because you are always 10 steps ahead of me!
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