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Parasite-Induced Genetically Driven Autoimmune Chagas Disease

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110329172243.htm

 

Researchers have shown that the Trypanosoma cruzi agent of Chagas Disease (CD) invades host embryo cells and spreads its mitochondrial DNA (kDNA) minicircles into the host's genome. Dr. Antonio Teixeira and associates at the University of Brasília, Brazil, inoculated virulent typanosomes in fertile chicken eggs and documented the heritability and fixation of the kDNA mutations in the chicks and their progeny. The results, published in the open-access journal PLoS Neglected Tropical Diseases on March 29th, show that kDNA-mutated chickens undergo genotype alterations, developing an inflammatory heart condition similar to Chagas disease in humans.

 

 

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hrm.  something that survives from parent to embryo.... isn't that a miasm of sorts?  discussion anyone?  (it's a free paper download if you want to read the nitty gritty details - most of which would be "blah blah blah ginger blah blah blah" even to me)

 

i don't care so much about the details of the paper, but the concept of a parasite making its way from parent to embryo and how it corresponds to homeopathic principles might make for an interesting discussion.  maybe i need to go read Hahnemann's Chronic Diseases now.  any other good reading on miasms?

post #1042 of 1068
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hmmmmm, interesting.  For those with a non-homeopathic background, classically a miasm is usually created when a disease or infection is suppressed, or unable to be treated etc. and becomes increasingly worse.  Just because someone had tuberculosis doesn't mean they'll pass down the tubercular miasm.  It's when it's suppressed and or not cleared that it becomes a concern-homeopathically speaking.  If the body rallies and overcomes it, there's not an issue.  Hahnemann addresses this in aphorism 78: "the true natural chronic diseases are those that arise from a chronic miasm, when left to themselves, improper treatment, go on to increase, growing worse and torment the patient to the end of his life."

 

Classically the three he worked with were passed either sexually or through physical contact and all have a sense of shame about them.  They can be passed down from parents OR acquired.

 

Given that my view is slightly different I can have an intellectual conversation about it, but that's about as far as it goes for me!  There are all kinds of new miasms that people are working with (as you know, Bluets, I'm quite sure.)  Aids, lyme disease etc.  Because the energetic model serves me well and explains all I need to know about it I stick with the miasms as direction of energy.  To me, there's nothing that doesn't cover-but I'm still open to having my mind changed should I find something that suggests otherwise.  Within the disease model, this is certainly a fascinating idea and fits right in there.

 

ETA: for reading...there's so much that I love!  Of COURSE you read the classics starting with Chronic Disease followed by Allen or Roberts.  After that-Henny Heudens Mast is wonderful and has a very classical perspective that she brings to a contemporary setting.  Then there's Banerjea who is more contemporary and a must read.  I of course love Grant Bentley.  If I think of more, I'll be sure to post them!


Edited by Panserbjorne - 3/31/11 at 4:41pm
post #1043 of 1068

i also stumbled on this piece by Roger Morrison: http://www.homeopathyplanet.com/audesapere/study%20room/library/miasms/librarymiasmsmorrison.htm

 

He refers to Sankaran, whom I have not yet read.  If I only read one book for now by Sankaran, which one should it be?

post #1044 of 1068
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yeesh.  that's a tough one.  the easy read is The Other Song which will tell you if you want to pursue looking at the sensation method further.  However for YOU I'd think about Insight Into Plants.  It's a three volume set, but based on your love of herbs you might really enjoy it.

 

I've enjoyed everything I've read (only about  6-7 of his books), but don't find any of it to be terribly practical.  The people who are good at his method are good...unfortunately it seems to be a fraction of those that studied with him!

post #1045 of 1068

Ah... got back in touch with my pendulum and flower essences this morning... pure love! love.gif

 

I made another dosage bottle from my Range of Light collection: almond and lupine (2-to-1 ratio). Feels nice. I had felt such frenetic energy lately and now I feel calmer and able to focus a bit more. Still taking my lungwort dosage bottle, too. (And I took some cell salts.) I really, really love the Flourish Formulas for their simplicity!

 

My connection to the earth and the energy surrounding me can change on a dime when I take FEs. It is truly magical! I love tapping into all that surrounds me in this way...

 

I keep recalling what PB said about how the flowers help rewire the synapses in the brain. (Perhaps not her exact words...) Putting them in my water DEFINITELY makes a very clear difference for me. I put all of our supplements et al away before a big party last Sunday (week ago) and have been taking the lungwort by the drop when I remembered it. Totally different feel and effect than when I put the same amount in my water. Fascinating!!! I am having such fun exploring the flowers more and more...

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Ah... got back in touch with my pendulum and flower essences this morning... pure love! love.gif

 

I made another dosage bottle from my Range of Light collection: almond and lupine (2-to-1 ratio). Feels nice. I had felt such frenetic energy lately and now I feel calmer and able to focus a bit more. Still taking my lungwort dosage bottle, too. (And I took some cell salts.) I really, really love the Flourish Formulas for their simplicity!

 

My connection to the earth and the energy surrounding me can change on a dime when I take FEs. It is truly magical! I love tapping into all that surrounds me in this way...

 

I keep recalling what PB said about how the flowers help rewire the synapses in the brain. (Perhaps not her exact words...) Putting them in my water DEFINITELY makes a very clear difference for me. I put all of our supplements et al away before a big party last Sunday (week ago) and have been taking the lungwort by the drop when I remembered it. Totally different feel and effect than when I put the same amount in my water. Fascinating!!! I am having such fun exploring the flowers more and more...

love this update!
 

 

post #1047 of 1068

way cool experience at the holistic vet the other day....

 

I have a cat who was diagnosed with hyperthyroid and secondary cardiomyopathy (a likely heart murmur), and has been treated conventionally for almost 2 years.  around the winter solstice, she experienced a period of very low potassium levels, so the conventional vet's solution was to pop yet another pill into her to address the potassium (which was getting thrown out of balance by the thyroid meds).  anyhow.... getting fed up with the stress of pilling this cat, i finally managed to hunt down the holistic vet - a 25 minute car ride with a cranky cat was really the only thing holding me back.

 

so, i walk in and she directs me to what i think is the waiting room.  fuschia (redbud) pink room, large wooden cabinet, lots of tropical plants, 2 big cozy chairs.  turns out, it was the exam room - the vet sits on the floor on big dog bed pillow (vet does not wear a cute little white coat nor does she carry a stethoscope, though she has a real vet degree).  cat was cranky, so she passed me a bottle of rescue remedy and instructed me to "just open it, hold it in front of her"...  holy moly... rescue remedy has NEVER worked on this cat before, but this time, it worked like a charm - and really, all i did was hold the open bottle in front of the closed kennel door.  she didn't even get too disturbed by the vet's dogs and cat coming in to check out her kennel.

 

the vet was trying to get a read on me (not having had a chance to read the page of info that i filled out), so i mentioned that (a) I work with my mentor (who referred me to the vet in the first place) and (b) i had just read "The Field" [great book, if anyone needs science-y connection for this sympathetic magick stuff we talk about here]...  anyhoo... i told her i was fully ok with using homeopathy and intent alone, getting rid of the drugs.

 

i also mentioned that the onset of the thyroid symptoms occurred just a few months after the cat's sibling died.  so we started lookign at GRIEF remedies.  pendulum went NUTS when i read off Amber grisea, anthracinum, and a few others.  thankfully, it was a clear "no" on the carcinosum.  it also went nuts for Thuja (not a grief remedy but relevant because of vaccines and conventional drugs).  she tested some others, even a thyroid supplement.

 

so, she administered a dose of thuja 30C right there, with instructions to give it abotu every 7 days but that i would know when the cat needed it, and the cat would "tell" me when she needed it.  curious sensation... when she was using the pendulum to see if thuja was appropriate, my biceps turned to jello momentarily.  and the vet felt my reaction to the thuja pendulum reaction.

 

while she was off getting some of the remedies to test, i picked up the thyroid supplement to check out its ingredients and apparently the energy shifted.  she thought that perhaps *I* might need the supplement.  darned if i can remember the name of the supplement though - it had calcium, magnesium, kelp and a few other herby things, along with pregnenolone (which is what caught my attention in the first place).

 

all the way there, when i was driving, the red bud trees were in full bloom, and were really jumping out at me.  i thought it was intriguing that her exam room was almost exactly the same color.  AND... while i was waiting for her to come into the exam room, not only did cat settle down, but my stomach started gurgling, much like it does when bodywork gets a release...  it was one mighty powerful room.

 

cat had a very different voice in the car on the way home - she still complained but her voice was throatier.  that evening, i was pickign flowers (to make some flower essences) and cat followed me all around the yard (a first).  cat also took a pee out in the gravel near my raised bed.  this cat NEVER EVER pees outside.  NEVER.  it's been 2 days since i gave her thyroid meds, and her bowel movements haven't turned to complete puddles like they normally would have...

 

another curious thing.... vet didn't have amber grisea, so she's having me come back in 3 weeks or so, when she'll have a colleague visiting who will likely have it (she was going to ask him to bring some of the grief remedies).  he's more of a repertorizing homeopath, so she said they'd both work the case (oh, and the cat is a "fun" case and a good teaching case too).  even more curious is that the colleague will have his own colleague tagging along, from Latvia.  my dad is from Latvia.  and while i was there, one of my mentor's patients also was there. 

 

and then.... she told me that there'd be some great holistic vets at the MA herb conference in June... which i'm actually going to.  mental note: get some names of people to talk to...

post #1048 of 1068

last weekend while i was digging up dandelions (i love the plant but there are just some places in my garden where i do not want them to grow....), i had this sensation that a pregnant woman who wants to get pregnant but cannot - and is becomign embittered about it - should take dandelion in some form.  my intellectual side then kicked in and explained it away physiologically, adding in burdock and yellow dock.

 

on my drive to the vet, i had the feeling that red bud would make a great essence, for helpign one to remember to breathe.

 

i was also inspired to make a catnip essence.  i think it is for general relaxation.  it worked on (well, just near) the cat when she was emoting as a response to thuja.

 

i made a serviceberry essence (because it is blooming now) but i have no idea what it is for, and viola essence but i don't know what it is for either.

 

though i must admit that i'm not quite strict with my essences and tinctures.  i use mostly what i have, so the yellow dock root tincture i made a few weeks ago was done with rum.  the dandelion root tincture is in canadian club and crown royal.  these essences used crown royal.

 

i finally figured out my hang-up with essences.  the plants and trees alone are enough for me.  i never did get around to making that blend with willow, walnut and beech.  i think it was enough to LOOK at the flowering willow, walnut (ok, it's black walnut here, not English walnut) and beech and i felt something shift.  same with those redbuds... looking at the redbud flowers is enough to induce a shift internally that, for the moment, i don't need an essence.

 

and a really awesome video to hunt down is "Knowledge of Healing" - it's about Tibetan medicine.  very interesting...

 

i'm so done with this week.  glad tomorrow is friday.

post #1049 of 1068
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i finally figured out my hang-up with essences.  the plants and trees alone are enough for me.  i never did get around to making that blend with willow, walnut and beech.  i think it was enough to LOOK at the flowering willow, walnut (ok, it's black walnut here, not English walnut) and beech and i felt something shift.  same with those redbuds... looking at the redbud flowers is enough to induce a shift internally that, for the moment, i don't need an essence.

 


ABSOLUTELY!!!!  This is a FABULOUS point, and I'm so glad you said this.  It's totally true.  The essences can be for when we don't have access to those healing plants/trees.  Not many of us are able to seek them out and commune with them, so we have the essences.  But you have to figure this is how Bach (and anyone who makes essences) learns what they are for-you feel it in the presence of the plant, especially if you are intuitive in that way.  I'm not in tune enough to extricate much beyond the feeling from a new plant.   Sometimes I'll get a sensation in my body or other clues...but it's not enough of a body of evidence to really go forth and create a line of essences.  The ones I've made have been either because the flower "talks" to me in that I have an emotional response to it, or because I know what the herb does and I want to experience the essence.  That was the case with snowdrop for instance.  After a lecture on the herb I made the essence (and loooooove it.)  I envy those that have a deeper connection-though connection isn't the right word.  I have that.  A deeper understanding of that connection, maybe?  I get so swept by the emotional part that the intellectual stuff seems far off.  It will come with time, but we're talking potentially years.  lol.gif

 

I've been having amazing and dramatic success with floral acupuncture.  It's a neat exercise to take the person's emotional state and work backwards to the acupuncture point.  There have actually been many "a-HA!" moments this week after using the flower topically instead of orally.  I've been thinking about the connection too between anthroposophical medicine and using different applications to affect different bodies.  When I want to affect the nerve pole, it seems like topical applications are superior.  I wouldn't have connected this before, and it's an interesting thought, but still in it's infancy for me.  I do find though-especially when working with the Australian essences when you're paying more attention to the metabolic pole that oral administration works far better-which is possibly why no one has worked to correlate them to acupuncture points?  Maybe they just don't lend themselves quite as well to it.

 

The English essences can be used beautifully topically and orally-but it's just interesting that they're what call to me for babies (I attend quite a lot of births) and in terms of the the nerve pole that makes a lot of sense.  I only do them topically at births and the response is truly phenomenal.

 

post #1050 of 1068

Very interesting you are mentioning topical applications!

 

I have been getting monthly massages for five months now, in a row, with the exact same person. There is very definitely an awesome synergy going on! I introduced her to flower essences and we fumbled our way through using them in conjunction with massage. Amazing, awesome, simply marvelous and lovely!!!!!!!!! I cannot say enough good things about my experiences...magical and delightful. love.gif

 

We've been using the FES essences in various forms (Flourish formulas in spray; Range of Light in dosage bottles with droppers; any FE in my water bottle sprinkled; etc...).

post #1051 of 1068

Morning:)

 

bluets, awesome vet visit.  I wish I had a holistic vet around here I would love it!


Edited by redveg - 4/19/11 at 5:21am
post #1052 of 1068

Hi just started to read this thread - will take me ages to get thru it all!  I am a homeopath as well as a midwife and nurse; its great to hear people talking about homeopathy and essences.  We use them on people and animals;  Ali

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Hi just started to read this thread - will take me ages to get thru it all!  I am a homeopath as well as a midwife and nurse; its great to hear people talking about homeopathy and essences.  We use them on people and animals;  Ali


Welcome!  I am thrilled that you are here to add more dimension to the topics at hand! 

 

post #1054 of 1068

I haven't been very active on MDC lately, it's great to read everyone is doing well.

I will post later to tell you about great things happening in my life.

Right now I need advice. My dad is flying back home Friday(just a reminder - my mom died in February and my dad will now live alone, he stayed with us since mom's death). My mom always did everything for him and he is not ready to be alone. He hurt his leg two weeks ago and is now walking with crutches, I have a very strong feeling he unconsciously did it on purpose, he is not ready to take care of himself and wants others to do it for him. I fear that he will keep hurting himself or getting sick so others have to help him. Any ideas which flowers I can give him to help him with the transition? Walnuts and Star of Betlehem tested positive but I think other flowers are needed.

post #1055 of 1068

I have decided to buy monga waratah for my dad, this is the info from the internet:

 

This Essence can help a person find their inner strength. It addresses the negative conditions of disempowerment; of being overly needy; of feeling not strong enough; of feeling unable to do things alone; of always needing the strength and support of others; feeling choked or stifled in situations or relationships and feeling not able or strong enough to leave. This Essence is very much addressing co-dependency as well as strengthening one’s will. Consequently, it can be thought of when working with addictions. This remedy helps one to reclaim their spirit.

 

 

post #1056 of 1068

I really, really like my flower essence laced water! So much so that I could not fathom going camping two weekends in a row without it. LOL (It wasn't feasible to bring my dosage bottles with me on either trip.) I prepared a 12 ounce glass bottle of mostly water and added a lot more flower essence drops than usual for a STRONG mix in advance. Then, every time I refilled my stainless steel water bottle with whatever water was available, I would swirl / activate the concentrated FE water and visualize the flowers (photographic memory came in handy...I could call up the affirm-a-flower pictures in my mind) and then add a splash. Ah, comfort!

 

I would have gone without under these conditions in the past, so I consider this a victory!

 

I will say now that I am back home and returning to a 'normal' routine, I am greatly enjoying adding the usual number of drops from the dosage bottles again. Absence really does make the heart grow fonder! love.gif

post #1057 of 1068
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indeed it does and thanks for sharing!  isn't it lovely when they become like old friends?

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Hi Everyone

 

I want to talk about end of life support.  What is our role as healers? How to be gentle with yourself as a healer.  What energy medicine can be used.  Is it ethical to use FEs in an end of life situation without their knowledge?  Helping caretakers before and after passing.

 

First  the easy one.  My mom recently became a hospice nurse.  I wanted to suggest FEs for end of life but felt asking for permission would cause more turmoil for the dying woman.  So I didn't do anything.

 

Second, the hard one.  My brother's father is dying.  He has liver cancer, which has spread.  The toxins and high ammonia levels are causing dementia. My brother found him outside this morning trying to fend off alligators.  

 

I have some FE ideas that I will post when I get a chance.

 

I'm upset that I'm not closer and that I don't have the skills or supplies to really help him through.  I am sure my brother will accept help for himself.

 

I am also experiencing my own grief.

post #1059 of 1068

a woman's cat was clearly dying but he still needed to do some work for her.  the vet gave the cat arsenicum album 10M to help him make the transition.  then she told the owner that the cat would not survive the week.  owner was clearly just barely holding it together, so i suggested a grief remedy for her.  vet's response was "oh, how brilliant you are!" and she went and got some remedy.  within seconds (really, not exaggerating here), the owner completely broke down sobbing and collapsed on the vet's shoulders.  (luckily, they're friends!)  but the vet kindly explained that the animal still had some work to do with the owner, something to pull out of her, that's why he was still hanging on.  so she instructed the owner to take the cat home and let him help her.

 

ETA: the owner didn't know that the cat had been given such a huge dose.  when the vet gave the week timeframe, she whispered to me that the week would be a generous time.  i inferred that it would be a muhc much shorter timeframe.

 

from what i've read, most of the polycrests are also useful for grief - nat mur, pulsatilla for starters.  though there are some obscure ones (ambra grisea, tuberculinum, carcinosum and others) that are also useful for grief.  the little set of copies i got from the vet also point out that children can also be affected by grief though they might not show it.  i reach for the constitutional first as an immediate support, then puzzle out any separate specific grief remedy later if it was still needed.

 

 

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Hi Everyone

 

I want to talk about end of life support.  What is our role as healers? How to be gentle with yourself as a healer.  What energy medicine can be used.  Is it ethical to use FEs in an end of life situation without their knowledge?  Helping caretakers before and after passing.

This can be a tough one.  IF I was asked to be there, I assume they wanted me with my tools.  That has always been the case so far (though I attend the beginning stage of life far more often than the end stage.)  So in that sense I think it's ethical if they requested my presence as that is what I bring to the table.  As far as helping caretakers-I will generally tell them what I am doing as opposed to just not saying anything.

 

First  the easy one.  My mom recently became a hospice nurse.  I wanted to suggest FEs for end of life but felt asking for permission would cause more turmoil for the dying woman.  So I didn't do anything.

It's a hard road.  I would probably take some time to educate mom if she's interested on flowers specifically for this purpose rather than suggesting them in the moment.  Once she has a frame of reference you can suggest them in the moment with a bit of the reason why and she's more likely to understand and therefore utilize those tools.

 

 

Second, the hard one.  My brother's father is dying.  He has liver cancer, which has spread.  The toxins and high ammonia levels are causing dementia. My brother found him outside this morning trying to fend off alligators.  

I'm so sorry.  I understand he passed already and I'm holding everyone in a place of love and peace.

 

I have some FE ideas that I will post when I get a chance.

 

I'm upset that I'm not closer and that I don't have the skills or supplies to really help him through.  I am sure my brother will accept help for himself.

IF he will, I just generally travel with a small English kit.  I can do anything with that.  I may have other flowers that are better fits, but it's like the polycrests vs. the tiny remedies.  You'll have something that will help amongst the 38 english and the kit is the size of a smallish book.  You simply can't anticipate what anyone's response will be in any given situation so I feel more prepared if I have that whole range.

 

I am also experiencing my own grief.

I'm so sorry, mama.  I'm thinking of you.  Sturt desert pea, red suva frangipani, dog rose of the wild forces, tall yellow top, bottlebrush, sturt desert rose, boronia and illawarra flame tree are the ones I'd think about for bush flowers-but again.  it depends on how you're feeling.  And do expect those feelings to change as you move through different stages.




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