LDS Mamas and Papa(s): JANUARY 2008 - Page 2

[NewCrunchyDaddy]

Originally Posted by alisaterry

This happens to me all the time... :

[KermitMissesJim]

Originally Posted by seeing_stars

I know that I haven't been active on the LDS monthly threads, but I hope I can get this out.

I am so discouraged My husband was excommunicated before we got married. He has a testimony and it has always been a given that he will get rebaptized, but he isn't doing it! He's spoken with the bishop about it who told him that he needs to have a year of activity before he can take the lessons (is that an official thing?), but a year is impossible for our situation. My husband works nights and has a rotating schedule, so he is only able to come to church every 6-8 weeks. I wish the situation were different, but it isn't and it makes me so sad that this is preventing him from being baptized. I also suspect that he is still self loathing and doesn't feel good enough to be baptized, but hearing this "impossible" requirement has been discouraging to him (and me!).

We need the spirit in our home. I think I deserve it, the kids deserve it, my husband would benefit from it. I cannot even express what it is like to be in a home with someone who doesn't have the spirit. I know he would improve if he could just get rebaptized.

I don't know what to do. I just feel so hopeless. We've been married two years and I didn't think it would take him this long to get it together and get baptized

Hugs and love, SeeingStars. It took my best friends ten years to be rebaptized, and that was ten years of FULL activity. It's not automatic (like a prison sentence, serve the time and you're done), but there were mighty blessings on the very, very long road.

[Stacymom]

seeing_stars, your post really touched me. My oldest brother just got rebaptized this past weekend after 17 years of drug and alcohol abuse, prison sentences, life on the street etc. There have been so many miracles in his life- so many times that he should have died from his overdoses, etc, but was miraculously spared. He has also seen many, many miracles as he has worked his way back into activity and towards being rebaptized.

Getting his membership restored was a long process. He had lots of meetings, lots of letters to write, and lots and lots of hoops to jump through. He had to attend all his meetings, take the discussions, catch up on all of his back child support, get off probation, there was a whole list. I think he even had to write a letter to the first presidency. But I have never seen him happier or more fulfilled, and the baptism was beautiful.

Do you have home and visitng teachers to help bring the spirit into your home? Are you having regular prayer and scripture study? All of these thigns can help you feel closer to the spirit and fortify you against all the things that your dh is fighting against. Hang in there- and welcome!

[Stacymom]

Originally Posted by alisaterry

I'm so sorry! There was one night during my first pregnancy I wanted Chinese food but it was too late at night and I started crying like a baby. NCD actually used ramen to make an improvised chow mein that was pretty tasty. I'm still so embarassed that I cried so hard, though!

I remember during one pregnancy, I was craving fast food fried chicken strips. I wanted them so bad I could taste them. The only problem? It was Sunday! I almost did it- I was in tears because I couldn't decide if being pregnant and craving was a good enough reason to get fast food on a Sunday. I don't think I did it, but man, that was a strong craving.

And once, I downed a whole jar of dill pickles in one sitting (I need salt like crazy when I am pregnant!) and sent dh to the store for more. He came back with sweet pickles, and I cried like a baby because they weren't the right ones!

Oh, and I'm Stacy. 2 girls, ages 6 and 4.

[Moonprysm]

I'm going to enjoy this intro.

My name is Tiffani. I have one little one (DS, born 4/5/06) and 3 with the Lord. I've been married to my husband for 4 years. And I got baptised last month.

[linguistmama]

I'm going to join the thread again and see if I can keep up this time

I'm Joy, married to Jorge for almost 5 years. We have an almost 3 yo dd and another baby on the way. DH and I are both converts, joined the church when we were 17.

Seeingstars, I hope you can get the help you need. It sounds like a hard road! I think the others gave good suggestions. I would also get blessings from your hometeachers or another priesthood holder whenever you need them. I've been feeling stressed recently and getting a blessing helps me to know that Heavenly Father cares about me and he is able to tell me exactly what I need to hear. It also helps me be more in tune with the Spirit so I can get the guidance I need.

Lacysmom, you're ped. doesn't sound very good about giving medical advice. Whenever I go to the doctor now I do plenty of research beforehand so that I can tell them exactly what I want. Whether its a test or medication if needed. Otherwise I find them to not be very helpful. If I need their advice I ask for it, but make sure to do plenty of research before getting a prescription filled or following a treatment plan.

Good luck Alisa and NCD with grad school apps.!

[guestmama9911]

Joy, I've known you a year and have never heard your conversion story! Please share!

[seeing_stars]

Originally Posted by alisaterry

SeeingStars - perhaps a fast is in order to help your husband get a new job? I know that isn't always realistic, but I believe a wife's sincere prayers can olften bring about miracles.

That is a tough one. He got this job about 6 months ago after a long period of unemployment and dead end jobs. We FINALLY have health insurance and money to pay our bills and the thought of switching jobs is very stressful. This job is in my husband's field of training and taking something else would mean a significant pay decrease. When he works outside of this field he makes less than half of what he is currently making. I know that in the long run a job is less important than church membership, but ideally he would be able to have both. My father also worked in law enforcement and had to work Sundays, but it is unavoidable on that field because it is a 27/7/365 type of profession.

[frogleymom]

Introducing......

So, I'll hopefully get around to a real intro soon... but for now...



Introducing: Christine Frogley
Born 3:35am on December 31, 2007
7lbs 4oz; 21in

I'll be writing up the full story soon, but basically... 2 1/2 hours of labor including 10 minutes of pushing, ending in a beautiful waterbirth.

We got home last night about 9:30 pm. I'm still tired and afterpains suck... but other than that I'm feeling pretty good and enjoying my excuse to sleep all day.

Emily

[NewCrunchyDaddy]

Originally Posted by frogleymom

So, I'll hopefully get around to a real intro soon... but for now...



Introducing: Christine Frogley
Born 3:35am on December 31, 2007
7lbs 4oz; 21in

I'll be writing up the full story soon, but basically... 2 1/2 hours of labor including 10 minutes of pushing, ending in a beautiful waterbirth.

We got home last night about 9:30 pm. I'm still tired and afterpains suck... but other than that I'm feeling pretty good and enjoying my excuse to sleep all day.

Emily

Congrats : ... and you need to change your siggy now!

[Moonprysm]

Originally Posted by frogleymom

So, I'll hopefully get around to a real intro soon... but for now...



Introducing: Christine Frogley
Born 3:35am on December 31, 2007
7lbs 4oz; 21in

I'll be writing up the full story soon, but basically... 2 1/2 hours of labor including 10 minutes of pushing, ending in a beautiful waterbirth.

We got home last night about 9:30 pm. I'm still tired and afterpains suck... but other than that I'm feeling pretty good and enjoying my excuse to sleep all day.

Emily

Oh wow, congrats!! Happy babymoon!

[frogleymom]

Originally Posted by NewCrunchyDaddy

Congrats : ... and you need to change your siggy now!

How's that

Emily

[holyhelianthus]

WELCOME CHRISTINE!!!!!!!
and Welcome Emily to the three girlies club

Stars~ your DH is in law enforcement? i'm sorry i'm confused- which happens a lot to me

[seeing_stars]

Congrats Emily!

Originally Posted by magstphil

Stars~ your DH is in law enforcement? i'm sorry i'm confused- which happens a lot to me

Yes he is He would have to completely change careers in order to have every Sunday off

[Momma_Camille]

Hi! I just found all these threads! What fun!

I'm Camille married to DH (Drew) for 10 years. We have one little girl who is 25.5 months. We have both been members all our lives. Our little girl was adopted at birth was sealed to us at 7 months. Most fantastic experience EVER!

Anyway - it's great fun to find these threads!

: Oh! And I live in Wyoming!

[NewCrunchyDaddy]

Originally Posted by seeing_stars

Yes he is He would have to completely change careers in order to have every Sunday off

The General Authorities say that people in these sorts of professions can't help working on Sundays and are "exempt" - so to speak - from the no working on the Sabbath. My dad is an RN and works at least 2-3 Sundays a month because of the hospital schedule, and the bishopric is fully supportive and understanding.

Elder Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles has said: “Modern-day prophets have encouraged us not to shop on Sunday. … Those of us who shop on the Sabbath cannot escape responsibility for encouraging businesses to remain open on that day. Essential services must be provided, but most Sabbath transactions could be avoided if merchants and customers were determined to avoid doing business on the Lord’s day” (“Brother’s Keeper,” Ensign, Nov. 1986, 21).

Of course, we know that there are essential businesses that must be open on Sunday. These are emergency, medical, transportation, and some forms of protective services, such as police and fire. We are grateful for those persons who staff these essential public establishments and afford us protection and comfort. (Earl C. Tingey, “The Sabbath Day and Sunday Shopping,” Ensign, May 1996, 10)

Elder Mark E. Petersen of the Quorum of the Twelve once explained the significance of the command that “on this day thou shalt do none other thing”: “If we are to do none other thing on Sunday but to devote the day to holy purposes, what is our situation if we willfully choose to operate our businesses on the Sabbath, or if we patronize such Sunday businesses, or if we go to places of recreation on Sunday? We know there are employees in certain essential services, such as in hospitals and other 24-hour-a-day institutions, who have no option as to their working conditions. We do not speak of them." (Ensign, May 1975, p. 49)

Now, I don't know what good these quotes will do, per se, but they do illustrate the point that "essential personnel" (medical, fire and law enforcement personnel certainly qualify as "essential") are "exempt" from the do not work on the Sabbath. It ends up being more a "keep the Sabbath as holy as you can" commandment when you are in these kids of professions.

Hope that helps.

[EFPookie]

Well, I lurked the last couple of pages of the last thread and thought I might actually post in this one.

Why does this feel like getting up the nerve for testimony meeting?

Anyway, I'm Dawn, married for 11 years to a very uncrunchy DH , mom of 5 (which is the new 10 I heard recently) - a former member of the 3 girlies club (do you get kicked out if 2 boys come after?). We've been in Texas for the last 10 years (holy fetch), but I'm from WA and met DH there (army brat who landed there when dad retired). I'm also apparently still addicted to parentheses. I think most of the rest is in my sig - I consider myself moderately crunchy, "getting crunchier by the day" probably fits me too. In fact, today I put my 3yo in the "emergency cloth diapers" and decided he's going to keep using them until he PLs. I'm seriously considering them for the babe too, but the one-size-fits-all I picked so that I wouldn't have to remember to update my year's supply are too bulky for him to wear every day. But I have a craving to do some diaper sewing, so once the kiddos go back to school, I'll get right on that (after I recover from the holiday, ie, detrash my house.) I'm rambling. I do that a lot.

[klg47]

Originally Posted by seeing_stars

We need the spirit in our home. I think I deserve it, the kids deserve it, my husband would benefit from it. I cannot even express what it is like to be in a home with someone who doesn't have the spirit.

I really feel for your situation, believe me. So I hope I don't come across as harsh or unsupportive. But I feel you are operating on some serious misconceptions here. There is absolutely nothing keeping the spirit from your home. Your husband is eligible to feel the Spirit. It is true that he is not eligible for the constant companionship of the Holy Ghost, but most members probably don't have that. We only have that when we are worthy of it. Your husband can have the Spirit with him any time he is worthy of it. The spirit won't leave you or your home just because your husband is excommunicated.

My aunt was excommunicated (for adultery with her first cousin ). She was still active in Church and was sitting there in RS one Sunday. Someone was going ON AND ON about how excommunicated people's countenances look so evil and dark, etc., etc., etc. The person next to my aunt finally stood up and said she didn't want to be argumentative, but she had to correct the wrongful doctrine. This lady didn't know anything about my aunt - my aunt found out later that she had been prompted to say something. I'm just trying to do the same thing here on this thread.

[holyhelianthus]

: to NCD.

and Katie, great points!! you're absolutely right!

ETA- WELCOME Dawn!

[Bekka]

Hello again all.

I am Bekka, and does it count to be in the three girlies club if there's a boy in between? My kids are in my sig, 9, 7, 4, and 1.5. I am the Primary Pres. in my ward. I play the piano, but there's no smily for that, or I'd have it instead. DH is a computer guy, but we've painted our 1/2 bath this weekend after removing the ugliest wallpaper in the west (east?). I kind of like doing house stuff, as long as it's not too crazy.

And littlest dd has wanted to be held all weekend. And my kids are in overload after another crazy Christmas. I'm spending the next week filling at least 1 box to send out of my house of TOYS!

Welcome new ones. Don't be nervous, we're all crazy. Hang in there Seren.