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post #1 of 18
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This involves the hospital breastfeeding support group held weekly at Carroll Hospital Center in Westminster, Maryland:

As some of you know, Barbara (the only Lactation Consultant left at CCH) has been closely monitored and managed by an advisory committee of local doctors and administrators at CCH who feel not only should mostly weaned mothers or just weaned mothers be forced out of the CCH Breastfeeding Support Group but mothers who are nursing babies over 12 months of age are now prohibited from attending and receiving support at CCH at the weekly support group. The numbers of nursing moms have dwindled greatly since they started banning moms from attending the support group and the attendance level now is very low - less than 5-10 moms each week on average.

Moms of younger babies explained that having moms of older nursing babies and even moms of nursing toddlers in the group helped encourage them to breastfeed longer and they enjoyed getting peer advice on breastfeeding issues from these other mothers,.as well. Many of us expressed our disappointment and disagreement with the decision to kick mothers out simply because their nursing babies turned 12 months old, but our efforts to request a reconsideration of this new policy have failed. This all began with the decision to have only one LC on staff last January 2007 which led to the "retirement" of Jane two months later. (She did not want to leave. She was indeed forced out.)

Even the AAFP and the AAP recommend babies be breastfed for a minimum of one year. They do not state that breastfeeding should stop at one year and go on to say that breastfeeding continues to offer benefits (supported by medical research) to older babies and toddlers beyond one year of age and older! All breastfeeding mothers need support!

The AAFP recommends that all babies, with rare exceptions, be breastfed and/or receive expressed human milk exclusively for the first six months of life. Breastfeeding should continue with the addition of complementary foods throughout the second half of the first year. Breastfeeding beyond the first year offers considerable benefits to both mother and child, and should continue as long as mutually desired. Family physicians should have the knowledge to promote, protect, and support breastfeeding. (2007)

The AAP recommends that pediatricians and parents should be aware that exclusive breastfeeding is sufficient to support optimal growth and development for approximately the first 6 months of life and provides continuing protection against diarrhea and respiratory tract infection. Breastfeeding should be continued for at least the first year of life and beyond for as long as mutually desired by mother and child. (2005)

The World Health Organization recommends exclusive breastfeeding for six months and continued breastfeeding for at least 2 years!

Some of us have now formed a new breastfeeding support group that meets weekly on Tuesdays to provide support to mothers of all children of any age seeking breastfeeding support!

We are considering a number of ideas to protest this decision and new hospital policy, including a letter writing campaign and a nurse-in.

Please offer any comments, suggestions, etc...

Thanks,
post #2 of 18
Did you xpost this in our tribe?
post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 
Yes. Hopefully I can get good info from both places. Thanks!
post #4 of 18
Wow...that's crazy! Definately post in FYT!!
post #5 of 18
I think a really big writeup in your largest local paper's health section about everything you just said might embarrass the hospital into reconsidering. When it gets warmer in a few months a nurse-in on the sidewalk with lots of signage and press coverage. Getting another local hospital to use the opportunity to start a new group there and get positive press for being the "baby friendly" hospital in the area? Just some quick thoughts.
post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 
All good thoughts and suggestions...

- We only have one hospital in this county sadly but have started a weekly BFing support group starting this Tues that welcomes all with no age limits!

- I like the nurse-in when it's warmer - good idea.

- We want to write the papers and have yet to organize what we will definitely be doing but I like the ideas.

- Most of us did organize or participate last year in the airport nurse-in at the delta counter so we have some experience.

Keep the ideas coming please!
post #7 of 18
We had the same issue in Salem, OR. I was tanem nursing my 2yr old and newborn, and they said the newborn was welcome at the group, but Jake wasn't welcome to come. WTF??? Also, most hospitals have a 6 month support group, after you reach the 6 month mark they ask you to leave. How does that help?
post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by TrustingOurBodies View Post
All good thoughts and suggestions...

- We only have one hospital in this county sadly but have started a weekly BFing support group starting this Tues that welcomes all with no age limits!

- I like the nurse-in when it's warmer - good idea.

- We want to write the papers and have yet to organize what we will definitely be doing but I like the ideas.

- Most of us did organize or participate last year in the airport nurse-in at the delta counter so we have some experience.

Keep the ideas coming please!
Use some ideas Barb Stratton of ICAN Baltimore has used to get rural county hosp. who were refusing VBACs to reverse course. She is a wealth of good ideas and she is on this board a lot.
post #9 of 18
My LLL group reported the same type thing in the hospital group. They made sure that the moms were told about LLL as many of us were nursing older kids and/or no longer nursing, but still going to mtgs for support. Definately let LLL know. They may be able to help or offer alternatives for these moms.
post #10 of 18
Thats terrible, moms with older babies need support to, they also have so much to share with new moms. What a shame!
post #11 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks!

I know Barbara and will contact her. I thought of it before and had forgotten. Thanks!

I've been contacted the last few hours by moms sour from being kicked out over the last few months. I guess it is worse than I thought. Some moms were called and kicked out months ago, too. Grrrr!!!

The local LLL leader knows (I know her too). Should she be doing anything?

Yes, moms of older babies and toddlers do need support. This is very sad!
post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by TrustingOurBodies View Post

Even the AAFP and the AAP recommend babies be breastfed for a minimum of one year. They do not state that breastfeeding should stop at one year and go on to say that breastfeeding continues to offer benefits (supported by medical research) to older babies and toddlers beyond one year of age and older! All breastfeeding mothers need support!

The AAFP recommends that all babies, with rare exceptions, be breastfed and/or receive expressed human milk exclusively for the first six months of life. Breastfeeding should continue with the addition of complementary foods throughout the second half of the first year. Breastfeeding beyond the first year offers considerable benefits to both mother and child, and should continue as long as mutually desired. Family physicians should have the knowledge to promote, protect, and support breastfeeding. (2007)
Yes. In fact the AAFP states that weaning a child before the age of two years increases their risk of illness!
http://www.aafp.org/online/en/home/p...tionpaper.html
post #13 of 18
What advantage does it serve to them to kick ANY moms out at any age? Did I miss their rationale somewhere for doing this? (FTR I find it ridiculous...I'm just curious what their logic is) Is it just because THEY think 12 months is when BFing should stop...or that these moms have been doing it long enough, they don't need support (nevermind that they are a great source of support to new moms...at the very least)

This is really messed up and sad
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by TrustingOurBodies View Post
Yes, moms of older babies and toddlers do need support. This is very sad!
and they are a great support for others!
post #15 of 18
That's ridiculous!! I want to know what their reasoning is, too. How blatantly idiotic.

Glad to hear you've started a new BFing group.
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by phreedom View Post
What advantage does it serve to them to kick ANY moms out at any age? Did I miss their rationale somewhere for doing this? (FTR I find it ridiculous...I'm just curious what their logic is) Is it just because THEY think 12 months is when BFing should stop...or that these moms have been doing it long enough, they don't need support (nevermind that they are a great source of support to new moms...at the very least)

This is really messed up and sad
Yes, I was wondering the same.

Is it a cost reduction technique?
post #17 of 18
WOW, I live in Westminster and am still nursing my almost 18 month old. Makes me so glad I delivered up in Hanover where the LC there is so incredibly supportive.

How supportive is Hanover? When he was in the hospital last month, the nursing staff continually applauded the fact that I was still nursing him. I got free meals because I was nursing him. They made sure I was well hydrated because I was nursing him. We coslept.

I am so upset that this is happening here...every once in a while at Target I see a babywearing mama and it makes me so happy...so to hear this...it's a huge step backwards.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Carroll County is the only area I've had any negativity towards my nursing.
post #18 of 18
Thread Starter 
Stacy: Join our natural parenting group! We'd love to have you!

www.naturalparentingcarrollcounty.com Just click on the link to our yahoo group and request membership and I'll push it through.

Phreedom:

or that these moms have been doing it long enough, they don't need support (nevermind that they are a great source of support to new moms...at the very least)

Yes, this is there response to us on WHY. They see me - the one with the oldest children at group - as someone with plenty of confidence in my BFing and so why do I *need* to come.

And we certainly mentioned how important it was for us moms nursing older babes to be in attendance to help 1) with questions others have of a mom and 2) with encouragement to bf beyond 6 mos, 9 mos, 12 mos. So many people have told me they wouldn't have kept bfing if they didn't know me. That's pretty darn powerful!

Check out the other thread for an update on letter writing campaign!

Thanks girls and write letters for us if you can!!
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