breastmilk ingredient in flinestones vitamins?

[counterGOPI]

forgive me, this commercial has probably been airing for months but we don't watch tv so i only just saw it at my brother's house while up visiting for the holidays.

their new kids vitamins have *forgot name of ingredient* which is only found in BM.

so this confuses me b/c the US is pretty against BFing let alone nursing over 1 but will give their kids vitamins that have BM ingredients???? :

[CathMac]

Originally Posted by counterGOPI

... (Flintstones / Bayer's) new kids vitamins have *forgot name of ingredient* which is only found in BM.

so this confuses me b/c the US is pretty against BFing let alone nursing over 1 but will give their kids vitamins that have BM ingredients???? :

counterGOPI,
Thanks for this thread. I am reminded that Choline may be a good argument for extended nursing.

That commercial has been around for a little while. See below for a link to an earlier thread that discussed this as possibly subtly promoting extended nursing.

The ingredient in question is the mineral "Choline". I believe it is found in Oatmeal. I only know this since I tried to figure out what may cause Oatmeal's milk boosting effect. It turns out Choline may play a role there.

I have included a link to an "About.com" link which explains Choline is important for brain development. That article includes a USDA list of foods containing Choline (see below). Aside from Peanut Butter I don't know that the average toddler would eat too many of these foods. And since peanuts are highly allergenic many parents are putting off introducing peanut butter until age 3.

For some reason the "About.com" article has "Low Carb" in the title. I'm guessing low carb diets may be low in Choline, which you wouldn't infer from the foods listed in the USDA thread.

MDC Lactivism Thread
“Information for Extended Nursing arguments”
Opening post by Bex80 on 5/31/07
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...ht=flintstones

About.com – Low Carb Diets
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/nut.../a/choline.htm
"Because of rapid development in fetuses and infants, we have a great need for choline in our early lives. Human milk has high levels of choline.
…
Over the past few years, there has been a rush of research, and there are now hints that choline may be essential not only for the brain development of fetuses and infants, but may help prevent memory loss associated with aging (although attempts to reverse cognitive decline have been disappointing). …

USDA database for Choline in foods: Beef liver - pan-fried - 100 grams (about 3.5 oz) - 418 mg Whole large egg - 112 mg choline Beef (ground) 80% lean/20% fat - 3.5 oz patty - 81 mg Cauliflower - 3/4 C cooked (1" pieces) - 62 mg Navy beans - 1/2 C cooked - 48 mg Tofu - 100 grams (about 3.5 oz) - 28 mg Almonds - sliced - 1/2 cup - 26 mg Peanut butter - 2 T - 20 mg

~Cath

[naupakamama]

That is really interesting, I hadn't heard all that about Choline. My 2 year old DD has eaten only the califlower and navy beans out of meals that I have made. Those vegs in particular she really seems to go for - wierd.

Thanks for posting that.

Di

[Breastfeeding Insomniac]

I have seen that commercial, it sounded like a formula pitch, only for vitamins, but since they did plug the bf, even if it was to sell their product, I was ok w/ it.

[CathMac]

Originally Posted by Breastfeeding Insomniac

I have seen that commercial, it sounded like a formula pitch, only for vitamins, but since they did plug the bf, even if it was to sell their product, I was ok w/ it.

Breastfeeding Insomniac,
I haven't seen the commercial but I skimmed the earlier thread and it doesn't look like anyone dug up any info suggesting the parent company sells formula or any other product that would undermine BF'ing. So I'm guessing the resemblance to a formula ad is probably only because they mention a nutrient found in breastmilk, which isn't a bad thing. Arguably it makes a subtle positive statement about extended BF'ing.

Also, I don't know how impressive this is but FWIW one poster in the earlier thread noted that a local Bayer operation got a BF'ing award.

~Cath

[Breastfeeding Insomniac]

Originally Posted by CathMac

Breastfeeding Insomniac,
I haven't seen the commercial but I skimmed the earlier thread and it doesn't look like anyone dug up any info suggesting the parent company sells formula or any other product that would undermine BF'ing. So I'm guessing the resemblance to a formula ad is probably only because they mention a nutrient found in breastmilk, which isn't a bad thing. Arguably it makes a subtle positive statement about extended BF'ing.

Also, I don't know how impressive this is but FWIW one poster in the earlier thread noted that a local Bayer operation got a BF'ing award.

~Cath

I did not at all mean to imply that their was any relationship between this product and the formula companies. I only meant that this commercial reminded me of a formula commercial, just in the wording they used.

[julie128]

So, basically, if you're still breastfeeding, you don't need to give your kids Flintstones vitamins.

[Kodama]

On the converse side, if you have a child with other issues that prevent breastfeeding (yes, they do really exist), then these could be a great thing.

Anyone know the other ingredients in this? If it is soy, dairy, and egg free.......I am highly interested.

[wonderwahine]

Originally Posted by Kodama

On the converse side, if you have a child with other issues that prevent breastfeeding (yes, they do really exist), then these could be a great thing.

Anyone know the other ingredients in this? If it is soy, dairy, and egg free.......I am highly interested.

unfortuantly, i think they have at least one of those

I agree, it can provide an important nutrient that bf provides to kids who no longer bf, either by health problems or even clw.

[mommymaemae]

by invoking breastmilk in the ad's language, couldn't they possibly be implying that it could replace the benefits of breastmilk? Couldn't it be giving the impression that you could stop bfing if you are giving your kids these vitamins? Besides, vitamins and minerals in pill form are often poorly absorbed by the body, while those found in breastmilk are usually exceptionally bioavailable.

I guess I just feel like so many pharmaceutical companies try to imply that their products are as good or better than what nature can provide, so I approach their claims with skepticism.

[treqi]

I just thought it was pretty cool to see the words "breast milk" in an aisle at the PX that is FILLED with formula and diapers up near the front of the store but all the breast pumps and pads are shoved way in the back of the store....

[wonderwahine]

Originally Posted by mommymaemae

by invoking breastmilk in the ad's language, couldn't they possibly be implying that it could replace the benefits of breastmilk? Couldn't it be giving the impression that you could stop bfing if you are giving your kids these vitamins? Besides, vitamins and minerals in pill form are often poorly absorbed by the body, while those found in breastmilk are usually exceptionally bioavailable.

I guess I just feel like so many pharmaceutical companies try to imply that their products are as good or better than what nature can provide, so I approach their claims with skepticism.

i dont think so, especially since its only reccomended for children over the age of 2. if it was on the poly-vi-sol i would think it was some sort of conspiricy. But the reality is, they are even adding ingredients from breastmilk into adult vitamins because of the research on how much that ingredient works for certain things.

[mommymaemae]

I see what you mean...

Just to clarify, are ingredients from breastmilk being added as in extracted from actual breastmilk or just ingredients that are also found in breastmilk are being added but originate from some other source?

[wonderwahine]

Originally Posted by mommymaemae

I see what you mean...

Just to clarify, are ingredients from breastmilk being added as in extracted from actual breastmilk or just ingredients that are also found in breastmilk are being added but originate from some other source?

im pretty sure they are being replicated from other sources.

[SashaBear]

Last time I saw this commercial it no longer said breastmilk. It named another food that it came from.