Gray Hair - Mineral Depletion? - Page 2

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by *Erin*

i've had all my vitamin & mineral levels tested this pregnancy, and nothing was off, so for me anyways, it's not that. i think it's genetic-my dad was totally grey by 30.

Depends on the test. Some will only pick up pathological levels-meaning you are really SUFFERING from a deficiency as opposed to being very low. There is a range of normal, and even if you fall into that range you can still be on the brink and be signed off as being okay. Other tests will be skewed if you are taking synthetic vitamins. They will show up as being present in your body, but you can't use them. That test will show you are fine even if you are really very low.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by bionicsquirrel

Very interesting. I say often that I got my first gray hair 3 days postpartum. The last two weeks though, I have just begun to sprout...5 years later.
I know I have adrenal fatigue and a thyroid issue. I never put two and two together.
Tell me more about this HC acid.

This is all part of the cascade. IF you read about it you'll see that dis-ease of any kind creates a vicious cycle. One thing after another goes out of whack because all of these processes require ALL systems to be intact to work properly. One thing goes wrong and everything has to shift to compensate. Different people will have different issues that become glaring and that is dependent more upon your constitution. Different things will suffer first in different people. That is why when people have illesses like adrenal fatigue or diabetes or hypothyroid they often have other issues too...yeast overgrowth, fibromyalgia, food allergies, low HCL etc.

IMO it's often a mistake to treat the symptoms you "see" because so many things have to happen for a symptom to become "visible." I like to look at the whole picture and trace it back to the source. Taking supplements to heal a leaky gut for instance is a waste of time and money if the gut is leaking due to low HCL. You will be on supplements for life until you fix the original problem. That's not to say, of course that you shouldn't TREAT the leaky gut, just that you shouldn't do so with blinders. the body is an intricate system and it's important to address it as a whole.

[Panserbjorne]

Oh-and yes, the HTG cheat sheet is in H&H!

[NatrlCatholicMama]

Originally Posted by firefaery

you buy some HCL-there's some links IIRC in the HTG cheat sheet. You can get it anywhere, but you want a decent brand. You take some before each meal working up to a fizzing sensation and back down one pill from that. So start with one. Next meal take two. Next three and so and and so forth until you feel it. Then after a month or so you at that same doseage should get some fizzing. Start stepping down. Gradually you work down to none. If, when you take one pill you get that sensation you have adequate levels.

And here my chemistry teacher was trying to teach us it was corrosive and not even to touch it!

So my question is, how does one get to be HCl deficient in the first place? Knowing that tells me how to correct it w/o the HCl pills, which it seems would only solve the problem temporarily? I'm pretty certain I'd fail the beet test, having turned pink just by eating the beets themselves in the past.

[tbone]

Originally Posted by firefaery

http://www.vitamins-supplements.org/...erals/zinc.php

http://www.healthvitaminsguide.com/minerals/zinc.htm

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/2...gs/653646.html

Here's a few links. In pregnancy were you by chance taking prenatal supplements? It *can* also be vitamin A deficiency, but more often than not it is zinc.

Thank you for those links! I did take a prenatal during my pregnancy. I'm taking CLO now, so hopefully I don't have a vit A defiency. I just got some pic mins for ds, I think I start taking them now too. I haven't taken a multiple vit. since my last pregnancy, which I should maybe also do too.

I will look into getting some HCl, I was a veg. for over 20 years and since my I've starting eating meat I do feel unsettled in the stomach most of the time. And I've been experiencing GERD since my second pregnancy. Is there any harm in taking it?

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by NaturalCatholicMam

And here my chemistry teacher was trying to teach us it was corrosive and not even to touch it!

So my question is, how does one get to be HCl deficient in the first place? Knowing that tells me how to correct it w/o the HCl pills, which it seems would only solve the problem temporarily? I'm pretty certain I'd fail the beet test, having turned pink just by eating the beets themselves in the past.

OH-MAKE NO MISTAKE! It is terribly corrosive in it's raw chemical form. It is buffered when you buy it in pills. Think about what happens to an anorexic's teeth-they get brittle and chalky from the HCl being regurgitated. The whole reflux burning your esophogus thing is no joke-it happens. They just don't understand that it's usually a result of too LITTLE hydrochloric acid.

There are many ways to become deficient-it's usually a result of improper pH or a highly refined diet. Some say it's eating too many cooked foods which use the reserves.

As I said, Boutenko found that by adding one quart of green smoothie a day ALONG with supplementation increased natural levels quickly and people were able to get off supplementation. Doing a green smoothie feast (nothing by green smoothies) for a month with no supplementation of HCl had the same effect.

What you are doing is eating something that is highly alkaline (corrective pH), raw (no digestive juices required), nutrient dense (loaded with minerals and enzymes) and real (no refined foods) so you can see that regardless of why it happens, all theories are addressed with her approach. I personally think all of them factor in.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by tbone

Is there any harm in taking it?

No. If you don't need it you'll know and you can just stop. No harm done. Given that you are experiencing reflux though, I highly doubt that will be your issue. It is actually quite rare that reflux is a result of too much hydrochloric acid. IT does happen, but it's more rare than people realize. And again, you'll be out a couple bucks but you will not harm yourself as long as you don't persist once you feel the fizzing.

It's much like zinc supplementation....there's a built in mechanism of defense. If you take zinc alone in a liquid form you know you don't need it if you can taste it. Once your body has enough it tastes metallic and you can then stop supplementing.

[tbone]

Originally Posted by firefaery

No. If you don't need it you'll know and you can just stop. No harm done. Given that you are experiencing reflux though, I highly doubt that will be your issue. It is actually quite rare that reflux is a result of too much hydrochloric acid. IT does happen, but it's more rare than people realize. And again, you'll be out a couple bucks but you will not harm yourself as long as you don't persist once you feel the fizzing.

It's much like zinc supplementation....there's a built in mechanism of defense. If you take zinc alone in a liquid form you know you don't need it if you can taste it. Once your body has enough it tastes metallic and you can then stop supplementing.

Thank you!

[desertpenguin]

my dad tried to complement a woman who had really pretty silver hair that worked at a vitamin store once. she got snippy and told him that it was a copper deficiency. not sure if that is one of the causes of grey hair or not though.