Monsanto Linked Seed Co.'s to Avoid - Page 3

[lmonter]

Originally Posted by FarmerCathy

Yeah, I don't know about SSE. I think husband and wife needed to keep thier personal affairs seperate from SSE. We'll just have to see what happens. I think the majority of the people who work there are good people its just a handful that are making this bad. He does say in his letter though to keep supporting SSE. Who knows. :

What did I miss? A nasty divorce or something throwing a wrench into gardening world? I haven't heard a thing...
And I think I'm going to place my order with SSE today, and am going to get a bunch of those cotton drawstring bags to use as produce bags (and maybe some for saving bean seeds or whatnot) because they're cheaper than ecobags, along with some seeds...

[FarmerCathy]

Here is the link for the discussion at idig Lanna. http://www.idigmygarden.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=5910

Yeah, I was looking at those bags a couple days ago.

[ninelives]

Originally Posted by FarmerCathy

No, not nec. but either this co. is owned by Monsanto or buys seed from them. So, depending on how you feel about supporting a co. that is associated with them is totally up to you.

You could probably find both plants locally.

Most of the companies on the list aren't actually owned by Monsanto, but just buy seeds from them.

[ninelives]

Originally Posted by lmonter

What did I miss? A nasty divorce or something throwing a wrench into gardening world? I haven't heard a thing...
And I think I'm going to place my order with SSE today, and am going to get a bunch of those cotton drawstring bags to use as produce bags (and maybe some for saving bean seeds or whatnot) because they're cheaper than ecobags, along with some seeds...

yep...they got divorced, and now it's a big hassle within the organization.

[Manonash]

I tried the link to Percy's site and didn't find anything about the decision last week. It just mentioned stuff that had happened before then. Did I just look over it? Wouldn't be the first time LOL.

[FarmerCathy]

The Supreme Court of Canada agreed with Schmeiser, ruling that he didn't have to pay Monsanto anything..

This is what I saw on that site that made me think that they had come to a decision. Is there more to it?

[Manonash]

I think that's the old case where that decision was made last year maybe? I can't find anything about the decision from the 23rd where he sued Monsanto. Maybe they didn't come to a decision yet or something.

[FarmerCathy]

Watch out for GM's at the market. Stay away from the 5 digits starting with 8's on your produce.

[FarmerCathy]

Originally Posted by Manonash

I think that's the old case where that decision was made last year maybe? I can't find anything about the decision from the 23rd where he sued Monsanto. Maybe they didn't come to a decision yet or something.

Oh, I see. He is suing Monsanto. Got it! I hope he wins!

[Will]

This whole area of what is a good company or a bad one gets very complicated very fast.

Seeds of Change may not buy seeds form Monsanto, but they are not necessarily exactly who their marketing implies. Linked below is a very interesting chart of who owns who in the organic industry. Seeds of Change seems to be a wholly owned subsidiary of the M&M Mars conglomerate.

http://www.cornucopia.org/graphics/O...Top25Jul07.pdf

[Nikki98]

Originally Posted by Will

This whole area of what is a good company or a bad one gets very complicated very fast.

Seeds of Change may not buy seeds form Monsanto, but they are not necessarily exactly who their marketing implies. Linked below is a very interesting chart of who owns who in the organic industry. Seeds of Change seems to be a wholly owned subsidiary of the M&M Mars conglomerate.

http://www.cornucopia.org/graphics/O...Top25Jul07.pdf

How frustrating!!!! Why do these big businesses eat everything in site. I just got some of those seeds (from Seeds of Change) last week.

[Nikki98]

Is anyone familiar with these seeds?

http://www.lakevalleyseed.com/

They are sold at my local gardening center. Just wondering if this company has ties to something larger. They offer organic seed types, so thats why I'm interested.

[Will]

Originally Posted by Nikki98

How frustrating!!!! Why do these big businesses eat everything in site. I just got some of those seeds (from Seeds of Change) last week.

I don't mean to imply that Seeds Of Change is a bad company. It is possible that their ownership does not influence their seed company policy. I just point out that the ownership of organic food companies is very convoluted.

I don't know about Lake Valley, but here is a link to an interview they did with the Rocky Mountain News. http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...ay/?printer=1/

-Will

[steffanie3]

Johnny's has a Safe Seed Pledge on their site http://www.johnnyseeds.com/CustomerS.../SafeSeed.aspx , so do they sell GMO?

[FarmerCathy]

Johnny's buys from a Monsanto Co.

[FarmerCathy]

Originally Posted by Nikki98

Is anyone familiar with these seeds?

http://www.lakevalleyseed.com/

They are sold at my local gardening center. Just wondering if this company has ties to something larger. They offer organic seed types, so thats why I'm interested.

Looks good, you might ask them to sign the safe seed pledge.

[Will]

I just wrote an article about how the current increase in food prices are causing countries and individuals to rethink their opposition to genetically modified food and crops. And how big food companies have manipulated the price of food so that GMO is now 30% or more cheaper than conventionally grown food, which is 30 to 50% less expensive than organic. Does society have something backwards here? Of course Monsanto was right at the front of the bad guys group in that article also.

Many of these huge agri-businesses are starting to profit from higher food prices in much the same way that oil companies are profiting from high oil prices. Three years ago would have been a good time to invest in big oil. Now might be the time to invest in big food. Excuse me my I go lose my lunch.

I am not a commodities expert by any means, but why is it that speculation in food, fuel, and other necessities is allowed at the expense of the end consumer.

Sorry - A bit off topic from the Monsanto seeds, but they have their tentacles into everything.

-Will

[FarmerCathy]

Originally Posted by Will

I just wrote an article about how the current increase in food prices are causing countries and individuals to rethink their opposition to genetically modified food and crops. And how big food companies have manipulated the price of food so that GMO is now 30% or more cheaper than conventionally grown food, which is 30 to 50% less expensive than organic. Does society have something backwards here? Of course Monsanto was right at the front of the bad guys group in that article also.

Many of these huge agri-businesses are starting to profit from higher food prices in much the same way that oil companies are profiting from high oil prices. Three years ago would have been a good time to invest in big oil. Now might be the time to invest in big food. Excuse me my I go lose my lunch.

I am not a commodities expert by any means, but why is it that speculation in food, fuel, and other necessities is allowed at the expense of the end consumer.

Sorry - A bit off topic from the Monsanto seeds, but they have their tentacles into everything.

-Will

Yeah, its awful, I wish more people were educated about GM's and Monsanto besides the other companies selling GM's. That's exactly why I started this thread because Monsanto has thier hands in almost every seed co. including the small business'.

[FarmerCathy]

By the way do you have a link to your article Will? I would love to read it.

[Maiasaura]

man....i just bought seeds from Johnny's! on a good recommendation. obviously my source had no idea, and neither did i. they say organic! can i not trust that? should i not plant them?

sheesh on a shingle. well, y'all know what i *meant* to say.


pamela