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My family is considering a move to your fine state, from the not-so-fine state of Texas (but a yankee at heart.). We are lesbian with two children. I am trying to follow this from afar but am having a hard time figuring out if you do or do not or will or will not have civil unions? I thought it passed but now it's on hold but I'm not sure what they are holding it for or for how long? So, can someone give me the run-down on this? And, can someone make a prediction for me based on your state's politics?

Also, if we were to move to Eugene, Corvallis, or Salem how likely is it that my children would know other children with gay/lesbian parents who are also AP and gentle in their parenting? Any chance of getting lesbian parents, AP parenting AND unschooling? Watcha think?

Thank you from a potential neighbor!
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Originally Posted by mackysmama View Post
My family is considering a move to your fine state, from the not-so-fine state of Texas (but a yankee at heart.). We are lesbian with two children. I am trying to follow this from afar but am having a hard time figuring out if you do or do not or will or will not have civil unions? I thought it passed but now it's on hold but I'm not sure what they are holding it for or for how long? So, can someone give me the run-down on this? And, can someone make a prediction for me based on your state's politics?

Also, if we were to move to Eugene, Corvallis, or Salem how likely is it that my children would know other children with gay/lesbian parents who are also AP and gentle in their parenting? Any chance of getting lesbian parents, AP parenting AND unschooling? Watcha think?

Thank you from a potential neighbor!
Hi!:

I filed a statement with Basic Rights Oregon, Oregon's statewide mainstream LGBTQ political group, to try and help prevent the enjoining of the bill. Obviously it didn't work. What I understand is that an anti-civil unions group is suing the Oregon Secretary of State for essentially disenfranchising them. We have a nifty direct initiative system whereby if a group/person proposes a law or change to our state constitution they can have the law or change put to a statewide vote if they collect enough signatures. The Sect. of St. verifies, through random sampling, that the signatures gathered are valid. The anti-civil unions folks tried to put the civil unions bill to a state wide vote after the legislature passed it. They failed to collect enough valid signatures. Now they want the Sect of St to honor some of the signatures that were invalidated, claiming they were valid "versions" of the person's signature. This has never been done before. So, they are asking for special treatment! It's a last ditch effort, and most likely it will just end up delaying implementation of the bill, but it's still a pain in the ass.

I think it will hold up in court, but I don't think the "challenges" are over. I believe that the antis will come up with another ballot initiative to try and "ban" civil unions (like the DOMA, measure 36, they passed last time)

All in all, if you live in an "urban" area, Oregon is a queer friendly state. Portland is full of queer parents, and I know some homeschooling lesbian mamas who were pretty AP with their daughters. I know that you are bound to find lesbian moms in the places you listed- but the number and variety will be less than in Portland. Eugene is super crunchy. Salem, not so much.

We now have a statewide anti-discrimination bill in hiring/firing and such. Multnomah County, where Portland is located, has a domestic partnership registry, and Linn/Benton county (Eugene) may as well.


Good luck in your decision!
post #3 of 10
hi there! i live in eugene and i am a birthmom~ i placed my daughter for adoption. her mamas are a lesbian couple and through them, i have met lots of local gay/lesbian parents. the agency we used for the adoption is one of the few that will do queer parent adoptions so because they are located right here, there is a seemingly higher percentage of queer parents in the area.(corvallis included) so yes! i do think you would find families to connect with rather easily. come on up!
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Outside of Portland area

We are recent transplants (although we met in college out here) and have not found others to hang with yet. I know this is a queer friendly area, but it is different coming back as a couple. I know all the hang outs for young, single queer folk...but no idea how to connect with others that are coupled.

The whole civil union thing is (as was already said) in limbo...but Oregon can be that way. I imagine it will all work out - probably go to the voters first. Hurry up here so we can get some more support!
post #5 of 10
Hi!

I'm a transplant from the SF bay area,California (shhh...don't tell anyone. We CA transplants aren't always very popular with the natives.) and have been here for 6 years. We love it here in Portland and can't imagine living anywhere else. I know Eugene a tiny bit and, as has been said, it is super crunchy. I don't know Salem but Jake use to work in Corvallis and said that we will never live there. Portland really is the queer central for the state. There are plenty of queer families and many that I have met are of "alternative" parenting style. Also, many of the non-queer families are that way too.

There are family activities at the local LBGT center, Q Center (www.pdxqcenter.org) but I don't see the lesbian parenting group on the list anymore. I use to run a queer ttc group there but stopped because of lack of interest. Once we are actually preggers and/or had a kid we are thinking of starting a quarterly queer parenting potluck group for the Portland Metro area.
post #6 of 10
I'm glad to find this thread! I'm in the funny position of having grown up in oregon and being one of the anti-Californians TwylightDove mentions, and then moving to San Francisco, where I've lived for 14 years. Now, we're planning on moving to Portland in the next year, so I'll be one of the "Californians" i used to complain about! haha! It seems like there are a lot of poeple on these boards from Portland, especially, which has been really nice for me to see. I know there are queer-friendly places everywhere, but after being here for so long, its' a little scary at first to think of going somewhere that might not be as welcoming. Originally, we were hoping to have the kid here in SF and then move to pdx, but it's taking long enough that we're considering just heading up there beforehand.

Is it against message board protocol to discuss trying to get together in person at some point? I'd love to be able to meet some of these nice people in person when my partner and i do move there.
post #7 of 10
Shhhh... The real secret is that MOST people in Oregon are transplants! We're actually set to get another congressional seat after the 2010 census because of population growth (oh, and we're leading the nation in a babyboomlet) My wife is a native Oregonian and that didn't stop her from marrying an outsider!

There is a group in Portland called PLOP. Pregnant and Parenting Lesbians of Portland. http://groups.google.com/group/ploppdx

They meet at the Q Center and in parks during the summer. We haven't been in a long time due to nap time conflicts, but there are quite a few families that attend regularly.
post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by pdxmomazon View Post
All in all, if you live in an "urban" area, Oregon is a queer friendly state. Portland is full of queer parents, and I know some homeschooling lesbian mamas who were pretty AP with their daughters. I know that you are bound to find lesbian moms in the places you listed- but the number and variety will be less than in Portland. Eugene is super crunchy. Salem, not so much.
There are definately areas of Salem that are crunchier than others. I, for one, love Salem

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Is it against message board protocol to discuss trying to get together in person at some point? I'd love to be able to meet some of these nice people in person when my partner and i do move there.
People talk about this all the time
post #9 of 10
Check out Love Makes a Family in Portland, http://www.lmfamily.org/. I am in Portland, queer, radically unschooling, extreme AP, and really feel more comfortable in Portland these days than San Francisco, my birthplace. Haven't lived in the smaller towns you mentioned for 25 years, but I can tell you that Portland rocks!
post #10 of 10

Depends

It really depends on what you value!

Yes us Oregon people do not "like"the out of state" people really! But if you want is to feel like being gay is ok....then stay in inner PDX! The school system is ###### unless private schools are used. We live in suberbs because of education for our child..that is all so really! it is a personal decision, end the end we wanted for our child a GOOD EDUCATION!

but reallly oregon people "other than us people"
do not like transplants
but #### then


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