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No problem! Tomatoes do well in raised beds and are easy to cage in a raised bed. One year I put them at the end of my raised bed and put 4 foot fencing around them with small t-posts for thier cage and it worked great.
Thanks again Cathy. I have done tomotoes before in pots with bad results. An "expert" told me that you can't grow the large fruiting varieties in a container. I have since always put them in the ground. This year I just want more than I have ground space for! Yesterday I ordered from Tomatofest some seeds for determinate grape and plum varieties that I plan to put in a bed.

Now you've all got me thinking I need to do brocolli! I don't have room for everything!

Hey, could we do some sort of a roll call to find the other poster's location -- those of us with similar climes might have more info to share. I am in SoCal, Topanga specifically, which is in Los Angeles County, deep in a canyon, 3 miles from the ocean. We have a STRANGE clime! It only rains between Nov and March. In the winter overnights lows are in the 20's and highs in the 60-80's. Summer lows are in the 50's and highs in the 90's, no humidity. We have 1/3 acre but it is steep and shaded by live oaks. We have one small sunny, flat strip on the edge of our driveway. Then we have a large deck off our bedroom that is a super growing area -- where our beds will go. I'm wondering what we could do on the flat roof...
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It's sick isn't it? I fed dh about a cup of kale that he doesn't know he ate the other night . (evil)
Do tell!
post #323 of 454
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Thanks again Cathy. I have done tomotoes before in pots with bad results. An "expert" told me that you can't grow the large fruiting varieties in a container. I have since always put them in the ground. This year I just want more than I have ground space for! Yesterday I ordered from Tomatofest some seeds for determinate grape and plum varieties that I plan to put in a bed.
Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, indeterminates would not do well in container's, but I don't see a problem with planting them in a raised bed.
post #324 of 454
Joining in....................

Been real BUSY getting the garden together.

Putting in a few more fruit trees THIS year.

Cot N Candy Apricot Aprium
Spice Zee Nectarine
Red Fuji Apple
Anna Apple
Snow Queen Nectarine
Meyer Lemon
Littlecado Avocado
Sauzee King Nectarine
Pink Lady Apple
Tri-Lite Peach-Plum
Katy Apricot
Catalina Plum
Flavor Grenade
Burgundy Plum
Guava- Do not know the variety, a friend gave it to me
Pix Zee
And a Assortment of Figs & Jujube's

These I have planted through the years.

Fuyu Persimmon - My father planted this one for me over a decade ago
Asian Pear
Asian Pear 4 & 1
Donut Peach
Arctic Star Nectarine- I put this in last year, mentioned it in the food growing mamas 2007 and it looks like it is going to be a GREAT year
Splash Plum
Dancy Tangerine
Page Tangerine
Minneola
W. Murcott Mandarin
Coffeecake Persimmon
Santa Rosa Plum
Dapple Dandy
Flavor Delight Aprium
Black Jack Fig
Honey Tangerine
Kaffir Lime
Goldmine Nectarine
Honey Babe Nectarine
Big Jim Loquat
Wonderful Pomergrante
Li & Lang Jujube
Babcock White Peach
Meiwa Kumquats x 3
Kishu Mini
Algerian Mandarin
Yosemite Gold
Gold Nugget Loquat

Also planted 2 Blueberry Bushes. A few did not do well so I am replacing them and putting them into containers. They seem to do better in Containers here in California.

I love Mammoth RED raspberries and planted them last year and purchased a dozen for this year. They were Delish. Hoping for lots of berries this year. : Will also plant Jewel, Anne and Caroline.

Planted Sequoia, Chandler, Quinalt Strawberries last December but will be putting in more Sparkle Supreme, Jewel and some more everbearings.

We have been harvesting:

Brussel Sprouts
Collards
Mustards
Broccoli
Lots of Mesclun and Salad Greens
Spinach
Pak Choy
Celery
Swiss Chard
Cabbage
Beets
Snow Peas and Sugar Peas
Fall tomatoes

Have planned or have planted already

LOTS of tomatoes
Artichokes
Jalapeno's
Serrano's
Bell Peppers - Red, Purple, Yellow and orange
Herbs- Basil, Dill, Mints and Thai mints, Cilantro, lemon balm, rosemary, chives, oregano and a few more I can't remember right now
Bush and Pole beans
eggplants
cucumbers-Armenian, Lemon, Japanese
melons- honeydew and cantaloupes
Squash

Nancy
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oh nancy... i am jealous! particularly of your tree list...
post #326 of 454
Yeah, I think I will dig it up there to check. Maybe I'll just dig it up and put some fresh compost there. Lord knows I have a TON of it!!

As for the barrels/conatiners, my garden is in the front yard- our backyard is literally 10x10 and gets barely any sun and is filled up with my compost bins- so barrels/containers in the front may not be doable. Our front yard is very limited in space as well. The poo hole is kind of in the middle of the yard and a conainer there may look a little wierd. Well, now that I think about it I could put a huge pot of strawberries there.

Darn dog poo, I wish my FIL would have listened to me!!!!
post #327 of 454
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New photos of my tomato plants on my blog. http://farminginsuburbia.blogspot.com/ I just transplanted a couple varieties. The rest aren't ready yet. The Sungold I don't think were ready yet. We'll see how they are in the morning. The ones that had the biggest leaves are still ok. The ones with smaller leaves I don't think were ready yet. The coustralee and The Stump O' The World seemed to fair much much better, thier second (true leaves) were larger. I will just have to start over with the Sungold if they don't make it. Sigh..... I jumped the gun I guess.
I just loked at your blog, how did you make those newspaper pots? I'm wanting to start some of my veggies pretty early to give them a good head start- short growing season here and I want to get the most out of it- so they will get too large for simple mini green houses I have and will need something larger later.

Looks like a great idea you have!!
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oh nancy... i am jealous! particularly of your tree list...
Hi Kelly, I got my love of gardening from my grandmother, I followed her around since I was probably able to walk. I got my LOVE of planting Fruit trees from my father. I only grow edibles.

I left a bunch of stuff out. That's what happens when I am up too late. I went back and added what I left out. I also put in what I have already. Looks like I should be committed. I guess it doesnt help when your friend runs a nursery. The list of trees were made last year while I was at fruit tastings. I jotted it down and wrote notes and gave it to my friend so it could be ordered. They came in as bareroots from Dave Wilson. I think they are the best.

Nancy
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we just bought some additional acreage next to us, including a fairly large, very unkempt apple orchard. we are really excited about bringing it back to life. this year we'll be prepping to plant trees next year. we just couldn't get it all done for this year. we'll eventually do apples, pears, peaches, cherries (of some variety), prob. asian pears as well... then some trellis' for grapes and try kiwis. i love orchards. a magical place to be!

... does anyone have any deer fencing? what do you have? we def. need it and i'm trying to decide between trying to do it on the cheap and potentially not having enough time and getting burnt out on it, or just forking out $ for something commercial that will go up easy and we only have to do once... any thoughts or experience?
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I just loked at your blog, how did you make those newspaper pots? I'm wanting to start some of my veggies pretty early to give them a good head start- short growing season here and I want to get the most out of it- so they will get too large for simple mini green houses I have and will need something larger later.

Looks like a great idea you have!!
If you scroll down I have instructions on making the newspaper pots. I got them from the tomatoville forum. So far I love them. They say though that they only last about 4 weeks so they should be used about four weeks after you have started your plants. I only give my tomato plants about 8 weeks because they usually grow so fast that I can't keep them in for 12 weeks. Last year it seemed like 8 weeks was a bit too long. They were huge. I think they really liked the worm juice though from my can-o-worms.


Oh, and I have pics of my garden plots at the community garden up on my blog. http://farminginsuburbia.blogspot.com/ We've been weeding the half plot the last two days. It'll probably take another 3-4 days to finish it. It is absolutely filled with weeds. I'm so excited though, I can't wait to start making the teepee trellis for ds and getting everything ready to plant.

Off to start some basil and more tomato seeds.
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we just bought some additional acreage next to us, including a fairly large, very unkempt apple orchard. we are really excited about bringing it back to life. this year we'll be prepping to plant trees next year. we just couldn't get it all done for this year. we'll eventually do apples, pears, peaches, cherries (of some variety), prob. asian pears as well... then some trellis' for grapes and try kiwis. i love orchards. a magical place to be!

... does anyone have any deer fencing? what do you have? we def. need it and i'm trying to decide between trying to do it on the cheap and potentially not having enough time and getting burnt out on it, or just forking out $ for something commercial that will go up easy and we only have to do once... any thoughts or experience?
That is so exciting about the orchard!

My dad did some deer fencing while we were at the farm. He used 5' stock panels and then welded those smaller light weight posts to the 6' posts he had holding up the stock panel and put 3 strips of electric fencing on that. Probably 6" apart to make about 7 1/2 to 8 feet. It works and my dad turned off the electric fence and they still won't jump it.
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Nancy ~ Wow. I'm impressed. And here I'm pleased that I managed to get a single new baby Fuji in our front yard last fall. How much land do you have to have that many trees and such?

It's also good to know there's someone else out there who focuses more on 'what can this plant/tree do for me' than frou-frou prettiness. I'm odd that way. I only have a lily plant because it's my birth month's flower (that my sister gave me a few years ago) and a few rosebushes we haven't killed yet that were leftover from the previous owners. Well, and lilac "bushes" because, well, those don't die and I don't want to deal with it.

Where are you getting your Jewel raspberries? Apparently that's the black raspberry variety that a u-pick farm an hour away from me grows, and hubby went nuts over the jam I made from those berries (that were out for blood, IMO). Still not sure whether we'll have enough room/time for raspberries this year or not...
post #333 of 454
Do raspberries fruit the year you put them in?
post #334 of 454
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Mine did, but only a handful. I don't have them anymore, but someone with more experience will probably know. I think they produce more the second year?
post #335 of 454
Raspberries usually don't fruit the first year you put them in unless you put in 2nd year canes.

Every year you have three ages of canes. First year canes that will produce the next year, second year canes that are in production, and third year canes that are dead and need to be pruned out. So if you're putting in second year canes, you could have production, but it's likely that you'll be putting in first year canes and will produce the next year.
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Welcome back Niamh, did you have your baby?
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I finally figured out how to post pictures on the web... can see my garden here

My Garden Pictures

Things are still leaf covered, so things look a little disheveled, almost have 1 bed completely planted- bed 3, the one picture of it, I added the little notes on so you can scroll over and see what I planted where.

considering there's light snow now doubt I will get out there and work today, tonight's supposed to be the cold one so hopefully next week I will get to plant the cabbage, broccoli and onion sets I have here.
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I'm an avid gardener in SW WI. I will be dealing with the aftermath of a very cold, very wet winter, but it looks like the fruit made it through. I have a hoop house and 3 cold frames to extend my season, though the hoop house still has chickens in it right now. I garden about an acre of annual veggies and start all my own seedlings. I have annual herb seedlings, cole crops and leafy greens started already and will get on the tomatoes and peppers soon. I usually plant peas and potatoes around St Patricks Day but I think the weather will delay me a bit this year (it was -6F this am). I plan to add more fruit trees, berries and asparagus o the good amount I already have.
It will be interesting to see how having a new baby will affect my ability to get everything done!
Jez
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Hey, could we do some sort of a roll call to find the other poster's location -- those of us with similar climes might have more info to share.
Good idea!

I'm in Portland, OR, in a house in the city that we bought two years ago this summer. We have a huge backyard by city standards-- the garden part alone is 40'x 15' or so.The first summer, I was hugely pregnant, and managed only to plant two tomato starters. The second summer, my husband's job took us out of town for two months, and though we had planted quite a bit, our housesitter proved to be unacquainted with weeding. It was very sad to come home. This summer, we have tarped over half the garden with black plastic hoping to cook the weedseeds there, and the other half has four 4'x8' raised beds. We will be here all summer, though I will once again be pregnant. So we'll see how it goes... I'm the main daily care person, as DH is a medical resident and works really long hours.

Long intro!

Niahm, I want to know about baby, too!

yankeeterrier- Just mouthing SIXTY FIVE BELOW ZERO makes me shiver. Eegads, I couldn't live there! Welcome to the group!

lightheart- how fun to have a garden on a hill like that!

raspberries- We had a couple canes transplanted from a friend's last year, but they suffered the effects of our absence last summer too. The now third year canes are really, really dead, and I'm not sure if I can see any second year ones at all... though there are first year canes! So maybe next year. I LOVE raspberries.
post #340 of 454
just found this neat urban homestead blog:
http://www.pathtofreedom.com/urbanho...taglance.shtml

We're in CA, northern foothills, zone 7 I think. Feels like spring but our date is May 15 or something
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