PICS OF non and bf'd profiles? - Page 2

[mama24-7]

From reading about our gut flora, I'm beginning to think that that has more to do w/ dental caries & associated problems than the breastmilk alone. I know that breastmilk alone does not have enough probiotics in it to combat the problems w/ our gut flora and since it seems that problems w/ this are getting worse and worse, it doesn't surprise me to hear that some mother's who had lots of caries are having children w/ the same problem, being labeled as a "genetic" problem.

I'm not trying to insult anyone, just saying that w/ what I've been reading (ds has has a gluten sensitivity/allergy so I've been looking for ways to improve it & have come across teeth stuff), maybe genetics aren't so much to play as other things that we can change.

Sus

[guestmama9904]

Originally Posted by mama24-7

From reading about our gut flora, I'm beginning to think that that has more to do w/ dental caries & associated problems than the breastmilk alone. I know that breastmilk alone does not have enough probiotics in it to combat the problems w/ our gut flora and since it seems that problems w/ this are getting worse and worse, it doesn't surprise me to hear that some mother's who had lots of caries are having children w/ the same problem, being labeled as a "genetic" problem.

I'm not trying to insult anyone, just saying that w/ what I've been reading (ds has has a gluten sensitivity/allergy so I've been looking for ways to improve it & have come across teeth stuff), maybe genetics aren't so much to play as other things that we can change.

Sus

i am not insulted at all. the other cause of caries/cavities could be streptococcus bacteria that si transfered from moms vacities taht are untreated to babies mouth. from the research i have done for my/my sons dental problems it seems like this could be a likely cause. and also a cause perhaps treated by dietary changes that streghthen our gut flora through a more traditional diet- ie. less/no grains, mostly meat, fruits, veggies and raw dairy. this is the diet i am trying for. i hope it will help our family not have so many cavities.

[CathMac]

Originally Posted by PJJ

... When all is said and done, dummies, sippies and artificial nipples all are substitues. ...

PJJ,
It's so obvious when you put it that simply. I guess the bottles of EBM and sippy cups of water jeopardize my hope that BF'ing will offset the bad teeth genes on both sides of the family.

BTW, does anyone here know if you can tell by looking at a toddler's teeth whether they are likely to be crooked later. DD1's teeth look great right now. Does that suggest her adult teeth should come in straight?

~Cath

[lacysmommy]

Originally Posted by arismama!

i am not insulted at all. the other cause of caries/cavities could be streptococcus bacteria that si transfered from moms vacities taht are untreated to babies mouth. from the research i have done for my/my sons dental problems it seems like this could be a likely cause. and also a cause perhaps treated by dietary changes that streghthen our gut flora through a more traditional diet- ie. less/no grains, mostly meat, fruits, veggies and raw dairy. this is the diet i am trying for. i hope it will help our family not have so many cavities.

Both my DD's have awful teeth. DH has awful teeth, to the point that he'll be having a denture consult next month or the month after. Mine are great but required braces (I nursed, but also too a paci till age 3). Hopefully with DH getting his teeth fixed, our next DC won't have as many cavities DT his good oral health at that point! I'm going to have to make major changes in our diet anyway because of eczema so perhaps that will help, too.

Anyway, interesting points that have come up. Thanks everyone.

[Jamie19]

Originally Posted by arismama!

i was breastfed until 2 years old, never given a bottle. i had 25 cavities by age 4. no joke. my DS who was breastfed until age 5 years has had 3 extractions, 4 caps, and countless cavaities. i think it is our genetic defect of having thin enamel. there are billions of reasons to breastfeed, but in our family it seems to not make one bit of difference in our teeth. however my teeth are quite strait, no one in my family has had braces and all us kids were nursed for 2-4 years.

How? You don't even have 25 teeth at age 4....?

[kerikadi]

Originally Posted by kallyn

I was breastfed and my teeth were crooked and required tooth extraction, palate widening, and braces.

I think it has way more to do with heredity and maternal nutrition than anything else.

My boys are teenagers (well, one is almost a teenager) and they both have braces. My son that was nursed the longest 16 months, has a palate expander and braces. Two orthodontists wanted to pull teeth but I found one who will wait and see what kind of space we are able to create without removing teeth.

Having learned more and know better my girls were BFed longer - nearly 4 years and 3 years but we fully expect they will need braces as well.

[kerikadi]

Originally Posted by Jamie19

How? You don't even have 25 teeth at age 4....?

Of course I am not the original poster but I know as a child I would get more than one cavity in the same tooth. For instance you get a small cavity, have it filled and then a year later have another cavity in that same tooth.

[kerikadi]

Originally Posted by CathMac

BTW, does anyone here know if you can tell by looking at a toddler's teeth whether they are likely to be crooked later. DD1's teeth look great right now. Does that suggest her adult teeth should come in straight?

When my boys were toddlers their teeth were perfect but also had a little space around them. I was even told by an orthodontist (just by looking) that they would likely NOT need braces. Well, the adult teeth came in and they both NEEDED braces. I really don't think there is any way to tell.
My younger son for instance has a small mouth like mine, how were we to know he would inherit his Father's big teeth?

[guestmama9904]

Originally Posted by Jamie19

How? You don't even have 25 teeth at age 4....?

i had multiple cavities in each tooth and this was over the course of a year or two. so yes, i did have 25 cavities, thanks for checking.

[Smokering]

Hmph. I was breastfed the longest in my family, and have the second-crookedest teeth. No fair. I shall console myself with the thought that perhaps if I hadn't been BFed, they'd be worse.

[smudge]

6 kids in my family. Three were FF, three were BF. Of the six of us, cavities are almost non-existent. The only one that didn't need braces was a FF baby....