Anxiety and marijuana - Page 2

[Beckula]

It is amazing to me that people here will post that they are so concerned about when to start feeding their babies rice cereal or applesauce or getting immunizations but then go on and support other mothers using ILLEGAL (they are illegal for a reason, you know) substances...and while breastfeeding!

Are you actually serious Do you even know why MJ is illegal in this country? Its illegal because after prohibition ended the government had all the prohibition enforcement agents sitting around and they needed a reason to keep these people employed so they created the war on drugs to give a reason to keep the funding going for this government program and as a way to control hispanic immigrants. MJ is not illegal because it is a dangerous substance, it is illegal because at the time it kept $$ flowing in from tax payers to fund a defunct government program. To compare it to crack is completely ridiculous. The studies that you are quoting have one gigantic flaw in them, they do not take into account any other drugs being used besides MJ, the test subjects could have been mainlining herion for all the studies say, they did not exclude the subjects from using other drugs. This is a commen problem in these American and European studies because frankly they are barely more than propaganda. Also no one was advocating using it in the amounts you are implying, most of said to use the smallest amount in order to get the job done. Look and see what the side affects of using most "safe" antidepressants are during breastfeeding, I think you would be very surprised to see how much worse they can be.

[Beckula]

Here's some sights that explain this better:
These ones are about why MJ is illegal

http://www.mapinc.org/tlcnews/v07/n1238/a04.htm?116

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_(drugs)

These ones are about the safety of MJ use while pregnant or nursing

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group...m_format=print

http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/Pedi...sure_0294.html

[BeingMe]

Have you tried Natural Calm? It's a magensium supplement and it's very effective. Also, stay away from coffee, chocolate, tea, high refined foods, and one of the best things is to eat very often to control your blood sugar. When my blood sugar is out of whack I get really anxious and dizzy. Also, make sure your iron levels are good, and not just on the bottom of normal. Honestly I would make sure there is nothing going on that's causing your anxiety, such as a magnesium deficiency. Check out the Nutrition 101 thread stckied at the top of the vax forum. TONS of great info there.

[newmama8824]

Originally Posted by JANmom13

BTW - there are many crack babies who grew up fine, healthy and intelligent, but not all are so lucky. It's a roll of the dice. We always live with the consequences of our choices.

Hmm.. Now I have heard of a crack baby, I've also heard of fetal alcohol syndrome but I have yet to hear of a marijuana baby...

[jayell79]

Originally Posted by Beckula

The studies that you are quoting have one gigantic flaw in them, they do not take into account any other drugs being used besides MJ, the test subjects could have been mainlining herion for all the studies say, they did not exclude the subjects from using other drugs. This is a commen problem in these American and European studies because frankly they are barely more than propaganda.

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Those studies sound like something straight from the famous 1938 propaganda film "Reefer Madness!"

[majazama]

Don't forget MJ was prohibited because the pulp/paper companies had a hard time competing with the HEMP industry, which was going strong at the beginning of this century. So now you've got no more forests because they outlawed hemp.

Hemp is a very environmentally friendly material and one of the strongest natural fibres out there. The first car ran on hemp fuel! The first documents (dec of independence?) was written on HEMP PAPER. It's outrageous how the gov't turned it into 'devil weed'... it just wasn't profitable enough for THEM.

[thixle]

Originally Posted by newmama8824

Hmm.. Now I have heard of a crack baby, I've also heard of fetal alcohol syndrome but I have yet to hear of a marijuana baby...

[maplesugar]

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It really is so sad that such a very useful plant is illegal. How in the heck can they outlaw an entire plant?

The thing with these "studies" is that they are done by folks with a monetary interest in keeping it illegal, so of course they are going to say its bad and will make you insane. I have never seen this at all.

Hemp could literally get us out of a lot of environmental problems, and help people with mental problems as well. I hate that lies are spread to keep it illegal-while children are routinely being dosed up with pharmaceuticals that often have devestating effects.

Educate yourselves, people!

[transformed]

it's better than xanax IMO.

[Genesis]

Originally Posted by maplesugar

I hate that lies are spread to keep it illegal-while children are routinely being dosed up with pharmaceuticals that often have devestating effects.

So, are you saying that you think children should be smoking weed instead? Not being snarky, I am sincerely asking you.

[transformed]

Originally Posted by Natural Mommy*J

So, are you saying that you think children should be smoking weed instead? Not being snarky, I am sincerely asking you.

maybe in pill form? seriously.

[maplesugar]

No, I don't think kids should be smoking weed!


I was just thinking that we as a society are so quick to put truly scary
(imo) substances into our kid's bodies (pharmaceuticals) while saying that it is bad for a nursing or pregnant woman to ingest a natural herb.

And really, I would rather see teens smoke weed for depression than take drugs. But I do see that neither is ideal.

[Genesis]

Originally Posted by maplesugar

No, I don't think kids should be smoking weed!


I was just thinking that we as a society are so quick to put truly scary
(imo) substances into our kid's bodies (pharmaceuticals) while saying that it is bad for a nursing or pregnant woman to ingest a natural herb.

And really, I would rather see teens smoke weed for depression than take drugs. But I do see that neither is ideal.

OK, thanks for clarifying. Sorry.

[newmama8824]

Originally Posted by transformed

it's better than xanax IMO.

UHH YEAH! I was prescribed to xanax for anxiety. I took it for a few months and had to stop. It made me forgetful and drowsy and I just didn't feel like myself. I will never, ever take it again...

[LifeIZBeautiful]

Originally Posted by maplesugar

I am all for mj usage during breastfeeding over pharmaceuticals!

I think that the studies posted by JANmom13 are bogus and probably funded by beg pharma. Just my thoughts.

Compare side effects of cannabis and any anti-anxiety drug out there. The pharmaceuticals are truly terrifying, imo.

I know many breastfeeding, cannabis using moms. They all have smart, normal babies.

I would just get good stuff and use as little as possible to get the job done.

Also there are other things that can help such as valerian taken at night, and cod liver oil. Sine you know how mj effects you, I would not worry about it having bad effects.

good luck!

ditto! especially valerian root for sleep...just not too much. that stuff works well.

[usandthegirls]

Originally Posted by JANmom13

No, if you actually look and READ the first page, they are from the US and European Countries by people who actually have spent years studying this and other substances, and psychosis, and schizophrenia.

I would like to add that too much of ANY substance (natural or man-made) can have bad effects on anyone, depending on their individual tolerance level and the substance involved. Even if the mother isn't impacted by something she takes, it doesn't at all mean the child would react to it the same way. A lot of mothers can tolerate dairy but find their babies can't, for example.

It is amazing to me that people here will post that they are so concerned about when to start feeding their babies rice cereal or applesauce or getting immunizations but then go on and support other mothers using ILLEGAL (they are illegal for a reason, you know) substances...and while breastfeeding! This isn't fenugreek or blessed thistle...this is a mind-altering substance that MAY impact your baby who is in a period of rapid BRAIN development. Sheesh, common sense people!

BTW - there are many crack babies who grew up fine, healthy and intelligent, but not all are so lucky. It's a roll of the dice. We always live with the consequences of our choices.

So, if it is illegal because it's dangerous, why isn't alcohol and tobacco illegal? You are making a bigger deal out of it than it really is.

[BeingMe]

I can't believe I forgot cod liver oil. YES....this is very important. When I was postpartum and forgot to take it, my sadness really increased. My midwife really pushed me to take it, and it has made a huge difference in my anxiety, and it has great effects on my daughter as well.

[FancyD]

Originally Posted by miasmommy07

I've been having some serious anxiety the past few weeks and its beginning to make me feel depressed. I've had issues with anxiety and depression in the past and before becoming pg I used to smoke pot occassionally, which really helped me. A midwife as well as a friend told me that I can smoke pot while nursing but I want some reassurance before I toke up. BTW I do not want to take medication and have tried many natural remedies but nothing seems to be helping. I do not want to do anything to harm my dd, I'm merely inquiring. I was wondering if any of you moms have found marijuana to be helpful while bf? Thank you for your help and honesty.
*I know that purest milk is best and I fully understand that marijuana is a potentially harmful drug. I'm also new here so if there are previous posts about this please point me in the right direction.

Cod liver oil will help soooooo much more than pot. Trust me.

ETA I see that has been addressed. I really should have read the thread.

[majazama]

Originally Posted by LifeIZBeautiful

ditto! especially valerian root for sleep...just not too much. that stuff works well.

again, not for everyone. I tried it, and I couldn't sleep still. My DP can't stand the smell of valerian root as well.

[thismama]

I think it is very safe and wouldn't worry about using it while bf.