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Help! I can't take it anymore!!!  

post #1 of 11
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OMG, where are the aliens that have abducted my child and left me with this screaming thing???

Seriously, it's not as though she was such an angel before; after all, she is 4 1/2 and this is a tough age. But the past two days have been hellish. They start out fine, and then some little thing happens and she goes all nuts on me.

Yesterday it was because she wouldn't stop climbing up a spiral slide at the park, something I have made a rule about, and I used 1-2-3 to give her a chance to get down or leave the park, and she chose not to get down. So I said, "Let's go," and she screamed and took off running. Since it was all fenced in I chose not to chase her, and she came back (what's the point if Mommy isn't chasing her, right?), and then kept screaming at me that I was a bad mommy. I had to CARRY her to the car. Now I don't usually use arbitrary punishment, but she lost her afternoon video for the running and screaming. It was just too much.

Tonight she started screaming at me after dinner, doesn't even matter why, but it blows my mind how this child will scream at us when we work so hard not to raise our voices to her. And after I ask her several times to stop screaming, or say, "When you are ready to speak calmly to me, I will listen," or use any other positive tactic, she will keep screaming, and the past two nights I just started screaming back. It was as though my "mommy hat" came off and I was just me, and damn it, I am just sick of being screamed at! ESPECIALLY by my four-year-old!

In addition to this type of thing, she's also breaking rules left and right and using the absolute worst judgment I've ever seen. Last week I discovered that she had been squeezing out a bit of toothpaste and eating it before applying some to her brush and brushing, and I told her how that is unhealthy (we use fluoride toothpaste), and even showed her pictures of fluorosis online to get my point across. It seemed to make an impact, but tonight I caught her doing it again! Am I expecting too much from her? She's very bright and verbally precocious, so sometimes I'm not sure if she's just acting her age and I don't realize it. Of course, the toothpaste is now off limits, and dh or I will have to put it on her brush for her. We used to let her brush and then we would "finish" for her, so we weren't always in the room at the beginning.

I don't know what is causing this! Dh is traveling this week, but he travels for work all the time and she has never acted this way. She eats fine, she gets enough sleep...we are on a break between camp and school so she's with me all day...maybe that's it. But I feel like I'm trying so hard to handle this in a good way and I succeed all day long, and then she just delivers that final straw. Help!!! Sorry this is so long, but I needed to vent!
post #2 of 11
I know how you feel! It is a stage but it seems to be long. My dd is 5 1/2 and she still does this. But, I do "take off my mommy hat" too much and do my own bit of screaming. I really have to knock it off.
I just want you to know that you sound like a wonderful mom. Good luck with this time!
post #3 of 11
Moving this to the Childhood Years. Maybe someone there has been through that, or is going through it now...
post #4 of 11
"Children are from Heaven" by John Grey.

How to encourage and gain cooperation from your child. This book gave me inspiration, insight and some new skills when I was at a loss!!! I checked it out from the library and then bought a used copy online for $3.00.

Check it out!!!
post #5 of 11
I am dealing with some similar issues with my 3 year old son. We had a lot of changes in our life, a move in Dec...a new baby in June, etc. and I was not being consistant with him...I was very tired (and still am).

What has been working for us is being consistant and not "giving in" because of whining, screaming fits. I am firm but matter of fact and he seems to have shorter and shorter "out of control" episodes. I also made a chart of qualities that are important to us: being gentle, patient, responsible, compassionate, etc and I notice whenever he is doing those things and I put a little star next to the quality. At the end of the day, when we are reading books, we also go over his star chart and I tell him all the wonderful things I noticed him doing (ie: you were very gentle with that lizard this morning, you picked up your toys when no one asked and that was very responsible of you, etc). I helps me more than it helps him because it reminds me that he really is a lovely little boy.

Dont know if this will help you...but this too shall pass.
Namaste
Denise
post #6 of 11
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Thank you for the suggestions!

Malamamama, I'm not a huge fan of John Gray, but I've only read his marriage stuff, and my library does have that book, so I'll take a look. I've actually been looking high and low for the book "Kids, Parents, and Power Struggles" and have had NO luck finding it!

Denise, I like the idea of a positive reinforcement chart. I've used those before, but usually they have been for very specific behaviors rather than "qualities." I actually NEVER give in to tantrums or whining, which is one of the reasons why dd's behavior baffles me! So I guess having some real, concrete recognition of when she does behave well should help. I'm going to let her help me make the chart this morning!
post #7 of 11
I swear, I could've written your post....I thought it had to do with our new baby, he's two weeks today...DD is four, and I also feel that my little one is gone, and was replaced by this screaming kid, who absolutely will not listen...I choose my power struggles carefully, but even for serious things, she WILL NOT LISTEN, she says, No, you listen to ME...what do I do? or say?
Have you read 'Winning at Parenting without Beating your Kids'? By Barbara Colorosso? I did way back when, but I think it's time to get it out again!!!!
Who said, this too shall pass?????Oh, how I hope!!!

Peace,

Mamasoleil/samson
post #8 of 11
Boy does this sound familiar. I have a just-turning-4 YO who is really going through another "limit testing" stage too. I don't have any magic answers, just wanted to say "you are not alone!" I've been ignoring the annoying stuff as much as possible (literally saying "I'll pay attention when you stop screamming" and turning away) and being really firm with stuff that is unsafe (like running away). I certainly agree with leaving the park when you did and imposing a consequence for running away. That's become a big one for us lately too.

I've been taking a "positive parenting class" lately and someone had a very helpful observation. We were talking about the power of ignoring negative but not dangerous behaviour. One of the participants noted that we should all be ready for an increase in such displays as an initial response before they began to decrease. She used the "coke machine" analogy. What happens when the machine takes our money and doesn't spit out the soday? We shake it, push the buttons a little harder, whatever. Its not until we realize its not going to help that we walk away and stop it. Same with kids. So, last week as my DS was screaming in the car all the way back from the video store (which we had left without videoas because he ran away from me when I asked him to come to the bathroom with me), I sat and repeated "coke machine, coke machine..." to myself.

Good luck!
post #9 of 11
Funny, I've never read his marriage stuff! What really inspired me about his book was that he really focuses on reawakening your child to her innate desire to cooperate. (Remember early on when they loved helping mama?) I haven't even read the entire book, but I immediately started using the steps that he suggests and experienced positive results, so it got me going! I don't know if any "one way" is the answer and I pick and choose from all that I read, so......good luck to you! I am just now entering the "3's"
post #10 of 11
I once read somewhere ( I have no idea where) that kids go through adolesence more that once. When they're 1yo and start realising that they are a separate person from mama, and again when they're 4-5yo and start testing the limits and having tantrums again (think about what a teenager feels and acts like). Dd will be 5yo in Oct and is going through this now too. She has an almost 3yo brother who likes to torment her,(hair pulling, toy stealing/breaking, etc.. ..) so that doesn't help either. Dd is also very articulate and I also wonder if I'm expecting more from her than I should. Then we have some Mommy Time w/o ds and she is as great as ever (still sounding like a teen to me!)
I know there are no solutions here, but I know where you're coming from, and maybe thinking about adolesence will help, I don't know. Just my.02
post #11 of 11
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Just a little update...my local bookstore ordered Kids, Parents, and Power Struggles, and WOW, what a great book. It's only been three days since I started it and things are improving already. I love the way it makes me feel like my dd and I are on the same team and working for a common goal.

Thanks, all!
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