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post #21 of 53
mongoose, i agree! we are strong christians as well...and our faith is very important to us. but..... we like the harry potter movies, and one of my favorite movies right now is stardust. my dd makes concoctions mixing everything she can find together....and honestly i'd be alarmed if someone frowned upon her enjoyment in this & claimed it was witchcraft. how absurd. we also dress up and ....gasp....go trick or treating in our neighborhood....and what's worse.....we pretend santa claus is real and fireflys are fairies! imo, it's fantasy and imagination that we enjoy, and i don't see harry potter as endorsing anything but just that....fantasy and imagination.
post #22 of 53
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dm, this recently happened to us. It was so alarming to me. The mom said she didn't like that her dd wanted to "make potions" when she came home from our house

Ds, 7, loves to mix vinegar and baking soda with food coloring and the girls were palying with him, making "potions". She didn't even apologize when I explained it to her. Apparently she was afraid her dd was going to turn her into a toad
How cute of your DS! I'll have to suggest that to my own DS -- I bet he'd love it!

My thought at reading the OP was, "Oh geez!" I'm Christian too, but think its just plain silly how some Christians are acting about HP.
post #23 of 53
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Originally Posted by dharmamama View Post
It's actually kind-of exciting to be that dangerous, kwim?

We have the power to undermine the morals of pious children the world over! Fear us, o devout ones, for we will singlehandedly (or 10-handedly, maybe?) pull down the pillars of your moral values!

Who knows what else we are capable of? This opens up a whole new world of possibilities ...

dm
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From what I've been told it promotes witchcraft which goes against the teachings of the bible. I really , it's fiction! My kids aren't any more likely to become wiccan now then they were before the read them.
Yeah.. sorta like my aunts church back int he 80s taught that the SMURFS were satanic I'd insert a BIGGER eyeroll but alas there isn't one large enough to convey how idiotic I think it all is
post #24 of 53
Oh mama, I'm sorry. I've had similiar experiences as a lesbian with two children conceived through anonymous donor insemination who were then adopted by my partner, an aetheist, an unschooler, a socialist, a home-birther, and a HUGE Harry Potter fan living in TEXAS!! People think I'm very nice until they learn usually two of the above (or just the first) and then the reaction to me is
post #25 of 53
Oh my goodness! That's funny. . . and sad.
post #26 of 53
Oh isn't that the funniest and oddest thing? Dd met some girls last summer that were forbidden to even talk about Harry Potter or "songs that mention kissing". They were 13. Honestly, though it was odd to my Dd she wouldn't have been rude to them about it...but they were just so preachy. Blech.

And of course the whole time they were telling Dd about how Harry Potter is satanic, and witchraft is dangerous for children and families. Dd has grown up with a Pagan/Buddhist mother, and is exploring her own Pagan path. So strange what we run into.
post #27 of 53
My favorite response to the Harry Potter reactions (not mine, just overheard):

Do you think Rabbits can talk?
No, well Peter the rabbit didn't warp you for life, these books won't either!
post #28 of 53
Very Strange.

My SIL banned Harry Potter for her kids but let them watch the Lord of the Rings movies, I didn't understand that.
post #29 of 53
I've never understood why magic is good in some books (LOR, Narnia) and not in others (HP). I did find this http://www.onetruthministries.com/po...lord_rings.htm which attempts to explain it, but I really still don't get it. I guess it's because Harry didn't get corrupted by magic?
post #30 of 53
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How cute of your DS! I'll have to suggest that to my own DS -- I bet he'd love it!

My thought at reading the OP was, "Oh geez!" I'm Christian too, but think its just plain silly how some Christians are acting about HP.
Hi Nemmer


They love doing the mixing. Honestly, the HP obsession has been pretty strong since the release of the last book in July, then the movie in the fall. Dd has rearead the series at least *3* times since then. She's also read many other things tho too. This little girl never indicated she didn't like HP, she just didn't read as much as dd. I feel better about it now, but it hurt for awhile.
post #31 of 53
Heaven forbid our children learn to discern between good and evil......while having FUN:
post #32 of 53
A homeschooler I know once told me her church is warning about HP books because they have "real witch's spells" in them. I told her I don't believe those spells have any power, so the books aren't a threat to us. (My son was a reluctant reader until he found HP and quickly read the whole series. TG for J.K.R.!)

When I posted this conversation to another HS group, one mom responded that she's had trouble with the "real witch's spells" as well. "For years I've been trying the 'Silencio!' one on my kids," she wrote, "and it hasn't worked at all!"
post #33 of 53
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When I posted this conversation to another HS group, one mom responded that she's had trouble with the "real witch's spells" as well. "For years I've been trying the 'Silencio!' one on my kids," she wrote, "and it hasn't worked at all!"

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Hi Mom4tot!
post #36 of 53
The Silencio spell doesn't work in my house, either.
post #37 of 53
but I think my kids have mastered muffliato...
post #38 of 53
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The Silencio spell doesn't work in my house, either.
Mine either. We all must be saying it wrong
post #39 of 53
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Originally Posted by 3momkmb View Post
I've never understood why magic is good in some books (LOR, Narnia) and not in others (HP). I did find this http://www.onetruthministries.com/po...lord_rings.htm which attempts to explain it, but I really still don't get it. I guess it's because Harry didn't get corrupted by magic?
I just went to the link, but didn't take time to read the whole article. It seemed like the author was saying that Harry Potter is different because the wizard plays a central role in this series, not just a subordinate/helping role.

And yet -- it wasn't wizardry that defeated Tom Riddle: it was Harry's willingness to "lay down his life for his friends" (Biblical concept), the love that Riddle was too fragmented to understand.

To me, Harry Potter is a real embodiment of the Biblical concept that the first shall be last, and the last shall be first. Riddle, who seemed so powerful and crafty and cunning, was destroyed by the knowledge that he lacked, the knowledge that he'd scoffed at and never valued enough to learn: the knowledge of the power of love.

It was the gap in this knowledge that caused Riddle's first downfall, when he let Harry's mother give her life up for her son. And he seemingly forgot about this, and felt safe giving the killing curse to a Harry who had just willingly offered himself up (in the same way that his mother had).

I realize that we're going to see everything through the lenses of our own faith and beliefs: As a Christian, I read Harry Potter and feel surrounded by the imagery of Christlike love. Someone else may not see it this way.

I can respect any Christian who feels a need to steer clear of these books. But I hate to see anyone being ostracized for having a different view. Because of my concerns about being ostracized, I initially held off on getting the books and reading them to my oldest dd. Then I decided I just can't live my life in fear. Our girls also go trick-or-treating for Halloween, and I think we're about the only Christian family I know of who does this.

It hasn't caused us any rejections so far. But my oldest is now expressing a strong desire to branch out and make more friends (and her best friend is moving soon). Dd plays some with the neighborhood children, but of course their playtime is limited during the schoolyear. So now we're joining our local neighborhood homeschooling group (Christian), and I'm waiting to see how it all goes.

I'm sorry for what happened, Dharmama!

On a similar note, I recently discovered online that some conservative Christians are even dissing C.S. Lewis, and warning Christian parents against the Narnia books for their children!
post #40 of 53
I have been there. It sucks, huh?
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