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post #1 of 20
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I have multiple food intollerances. I have known about them for a few months. I honestly feel like garbage, and as I type I have a mouthful of cancer sores. I am afraid though. I'm afraid that when I take these foods out of my diet, I'm going to binge. I used to binge and purge....but now I only binge and my binging days are a lot less than they used to. I know how quickly one binge can send me into days and days of binging and lots of purging. Has anyone else dealt with this?
post #2 of 20
Hi Babygrant. Saw your request in peace with food. I don't have any experience with what you're going through specifically. I just wondering who you have around that can support you through all this. It seems like for your health you might have to make some different choices, but also for your health you probably shouldn't be restricting if it triggers bingeing.
The only advice I can think to give is to seek help where you can, counseling to help through cutting out foods, if that is what you find your well being requires. I think you're approaching it pretty mindfully. I've often gotten the advice to look at food choices for what will really make my body feel good, as opposed to a way to help me deal with my emotions or stress, etc. It always seems so obvious when I write it out, but of course I know it's never simple.
post #3 of 20
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I really dont have any support. My husband doesn't understand the binging. "Just don't eat! It's simple". Simple for someone who doesn't suffer that mental thinking. My son goes to the naturopath on Wednesday, so I think I'll ask him and see what he says.
post #4 of 20
Is it possible that the foods that you have intolerances to are causing some of the mental anguish? I know that food intolerances can have a big effect on moods. And many people crave the foods that they have intolerances to (thus the binging). So is it possible if you had help getting over the hump of taking those foods out of your diet, that you'd be better off, and have less of the mental anguish/food bingeing? I really don't know anything about the bingeing, but I know what food does to my kids. DS has milk intolerance and when he has it, he gets mean, cries alot and has temper tantrums (he's 7) but when he's off it, he's the sweetest child there is. So I know there's a big connection. It's just a thought, and maybe a thought that would help get you over that hump. Do you have a friend that could help you the first week while the cravings are the worst? Or use the mothering.com boards for help during that time?
Kathy
post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by babygrant View Post
I have multiple food intollerances. I have known about them for a few months. I honestly feel like garbage, and as I type I have a mouthful of cancer sores. I am afraid though. I'm afraid that when I take these foods out of my diet, I'm going to binge. I used to binge and purge....but now I only binge and my binging days are a lot less than they used to. I know how quickly one binge can send me into days and days of binging and lots of purging. Has anyone else dealt with this?
Go Raw!!!

Cannot digest cooked foods so body has to make enzyme mutations and not always effective, so disease and disorder follows.

Also if eat high refined goodies, bowel then creates ileo fecal valve leakage and then food bits get into blood stream and create allergies.

Go Raw and take lots of DHA so body can have tools to repair. Liquid minerals good idea to for all essential mineral needs and amino acids now unavailable in foodstuffs due to poor soil quality everywhere.

Good luck!
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by kjbrown92 View Post
Is it possible that the foods that you have intolerances to are causing some of the mental anguish? I know that food intolerances can have a big effect on moods. And many people crave the foods that they have intolerances to (thus the binging). So is it possible if you had help getting over the hump of taking those foods out of your diet, that you'd be better off, and have less of the mental anguish/food bingeing? I really don't know anything about the bingeing, but I know what food does to my kids. DS has milk intolerance and when he has it, he gets mean, cries alot and has temper tantrums (he's 7) but when he's off it, he's the sweetest child there is. So I know there's a big connection. It's just a thought, and maybe a thought that would help get you over that hump. Do you have a friend that could help you the first week while the cravings are the worst? Or use the mothering.com boards for help during that time?
Kathy
That's very much a possibility. I find when I consume any dairy, I'm horribly moody. I've been feeling better now that I've found out the results of my son's allergy tests, so now I'll make time for myself.
post #7 of 20
I don't have advice, but I empathize with your worry and fear.
post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 
You know what sucks? Cost ALWAYS comes into play here. Quite a few of my intollerances fall into DS's allergies. Should be easier then, right? No. I hate salads, absolutely HATE them. I love bread, but the specialty breads are just too expensive for both DS and I to eat. All of the specialty foods are just so expensive, and DS's health comes far before mine. I should probably just look for recipes that are naturally free of wheat, dairy, and cheese, but then I have to find a happy medium. I need to find foods that my 2 year old will eat.
post #9 of 20
Babygrant...I'll come at it from another angle. Perhaps you have the allergies *because* of your relationship with food. IT is a more energetic way to look at it, but if food is your enemy (as it is with anyone who has an ED) then manifesting symptoms is the easiest way to keep it your enemy. It's far more complex than "you manifested your health issues" but since I ultimately believe that our health is always a result of our emotions that's basically how *I* look at it.

Perhaps it's really just about changing your relationship with food? Clearly you have to be safe and well in the meantime, but if this resonates with you at all it may give you a bit of hope. I can suggest some reading material if you are open to the idea.
post #10 of 20
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I'm up for the reading. Absolutely. Just let me know what you suggest, and I'll buck up and pay my library fines
post #11 of 20
I'm pming you.
post #12 of 20
I would be very curious to know those titles as well!
post #13 of 20
I'd say it's more likely that you have the ED because of the food allergies. Food intolerances make you crave the food that makes you sick, so it could definitely lead to bingeing and then purging because the food isn't good for you. So if you could get over the hump of the cravings (usually two weeks) your moods will be better, and hopefully won't feel the need to binge. No?
post #14 of 20
Kathy,
While from a biochemical standpoint what you are saying is true I believe everything happens for a reason. I personally believe that our health is a direct result of our emotions. So, in this situation I take a step back and ask how it serves the person to have this issue. Why, from an energetic standpoint is their body reacting in this way?

For me in my life I have been diagnosed with celiac disease and multiple food allergies. I had raging yeast, my liver was failing etc. For me the issue was not ever being able to be nourished (not just from a food standpoint.) I believed from a very early age that I was not safe in the world. I manifested my allergies/autoimmune issues as a way to remain a victim and prove my underlying belief. It started when I was quite young-just a toddler. It served me to keep food as my enemy-what is more basic and necessary than food? If I didn't have this issue then I would have to look deeper. The allergies, for me, were something to hide behind. All the healing in the world wasnt' going to release them because in my life they still served a purpose.

Now, I had measurable issues. Blood tested and confirmed. They were real. I was gravely ill. I was hospitalized more than once. That does not make what I am saying any less valid. By being so sick my identity was build on this core belief I had. In fact, it was reaffirmed when dd was born and in such horrible shape. I wasn't able to shift anything until I addressed the root cause.

There is quite a bit of writing even in the medical world about this concept. Our minds are incredibly powerful. Several people have done work identifying trauma, tracing it to different parts of the brains and mapping where it lodged. You can apparently predict how and where it will manifest in the body if you can determine the original trauma.

Dr. Edward Bach developed his entire healing philosophy (which has stood the test of time and is almost mainstream) based on this concept. He writes and believes that physical manifestations ONLY occur if you do not correct the emotional imbalance. Dr. Samuel Hanehmann believed the same. We are now realizing how inextricably intertwined our minds and bodies are. It's not a big leap to say that ultimately our mind drives the physical response.

It is of course a very complex issue, but this is my belief and understanding of it.

Edward Bach's Heal Thyself is a great place to start (it's a very easy read.) I think Esther Hicks also addresses it in all her books. EFT is another thing to look at.
http://www.emofree.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nRY3UtTHvo

I'm not saying that you don't have to address allergies while you are processing through things-noone should put themselves in danger based on an idea. However if you can examine all aspects and treat on many levels healing will come more quickly.
post #15 of 20
But my son was born with milk intolerance. Are you saying it's because he was emotionally imbalanced from birth? There is a big relationship between food and mood swings/emotional imbalance. But I'll agree to disagree, as it's up to the OP to decide what she's going to do.
post #16 of 20
No, what I'm saying is that he was still in your energy field, as my dd was in mine. All babies are. They simply reflect what's going on with you. That why the advice for an allergic baby is to heal MAMA's gut. Dd was born with ALOT more than dairy allergies. I had ALOT to heal.

You are not saying anything that anyone would dispute. Food allergies have real implications biochemically. They can and do alter brain function. Food addictions are VERY hard physiologically. Their ramifications are widespread and measurable. The question is WHY do you have them? I just prefer not to chase symptoms. In my life and family we go deeper. I don't feel that true healing can happen until the underlying things are addressed.

To each his own. We all have different paths. Sometimes it's helpful for us to hear other's experiences. You can take what you can and leave the rest. That's the beauty of an international forum!
post #17 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone. So because of my way of thinking, and manifesting the wrong things, it could be why ds has almost identical sensitivities to me (we've both got tested, both have almost the same food sensitivities)? I really am open to another way of thinking. Someone in this area just opened a BodyTalk office, so I've been reading a bit about that.
post #18 of 20
There was an article awhile back (couple weeks ago), I think in the allergy forum about how antigens are passed through the breastmilk, and that's how the kids get the allergies. Interesting, because I didn't think I had any food intolerances. But if child #2 had some, then child #3 had even more, it's definitely a possibility. So now I'm getting tested. It's an interesting theory, anyways.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by firefaery View Post
Babygrant...I'll come at it from another angle. Perhaps you have the allergies *because* of your relationship with food. IT is a more energetic way to look at it, but if food is your enemy (as it is with anyone who has an ED) then manifesting symptoms is the easiest way to keep it your enemy. It's far more complex than "you manifested your health issues" but since I ultimately believe that our health is always a result of our emotions that's basically how *I* look at it.

Perhaps it's really just about changing your relationship with food? Clearly you have to be safe and well in the meantime, but if this resonates with you at all it may give you a bit of hope. I can suggest some reading material if you are open to the idea.
Full Moon Feast!! Jessica Prentice, the author, writes in the first few pages about her struggle with food. It took her years to figure out how to have a positive, nourishing relationship with food.
The book has delicious, nutrient dense recipes - I'm also reacting to * alot* (29!) foods at the moment & this book has been a blessing.

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But my son was born with milk intolerance. Are you saying it's because he was emotionally imbalanced from birth? There is a big relationship between food and mood swings/emotional imbalance. But I'll agree to disagree, as it's up to the OP to decide what she's going to do.
When a mother is reacting to foods, she has chronic inflammation, inflammation in the mother can lead to allergies, asthma & autism-spectrum disorders in the child.

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Originally Posted by firefaery View Post
No, what I'm saying is that he was still in your energy field, as my dd was in mine. All babies are. They simply reflect what's going on with you. That why the advice for an allergic baby is to heal MAMA's gut. Dd was born with ALOT more than dairy allergies. I had ALOT to heal.


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Originally Posted by kjbrown92 View Post
There was an article awhile back (couple weeks ago), I think in the allergy forum about how antigens are passed through the breastmilk, and that's how the kids get the allergies. Interesting, because I didn't think I had any food intolerances. But if child #2 had some, then child #3 had even more, it's definitely a possibility. So now I'm getting tested. It's an interesting theory, anyways.
I was JUST pondering this this morning! Wow, weird tha I came here & read it....

I am reacting to 29 foods (possibly more) & am bfing Ds *a lot* - I'd venture to say that his diet is still 85%-90% breastmilk at 22 months. I know that babies get their mother's antibodies, so I wondered if he would get these from me - jeez I hope not. sad:

Here's how I believe my food allergies came about: I had a time of great stress, more stress than I've ever been through in my life all at once. My cortisol shot through the roof, constant fight-or-flight, many, many horrible symptoms both mental/emotional & physical. Eventually I used up all of my cortsiol, DHEA & sex hormones. And now I have 5 pretty strong food allergies + 24 moderate allergies - who knows how many more taht we didn't test...
Of course there are soooo many theories out there, but I've read that foods eaten in times of great emotional stress can cause the body to recognize them as intruders.
Another theory that I've hitched my wagon to - and Jessica mentions this in Full Moon Feast, is that adrenal fatigue is the cause of allergies, asthma & eczema - this came from her trusted herbalist.

It makes sense to me, your adrenals are the core of your immune system, along with your gut - if they aren't up to par, everything will be compromised.
post #20 of 20
http://www.contemplatethis.com/archives/category/audio

the second one talks about food. In all fairness I haven't listened to it yet, but i have read the original text. I would assume it's the same and will post if it's not...

It's along the lines of Full Moon Feast which Metasequoia referenced .
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