I am always amazed that cds don't go hand in hand with...

[MamaMonica]

homebirthing! And natural living folks. I was at a party and two homebirthing, natural living moms were changing disposables on their kids.

Has anyone else noticed this?

[Cassandra M.]

yes i have a good friend who had both of her girls at home and lives fairly naturally (natural medicine, no vax, but i think her diet isnt the greatest?) uses disposables...she has tried cloth but just cant get used to the bulk.
sorry if this is OT, but is there a very slim CD i can suggest to her?

[Sandra Dee]

Bumkins AIOs are VERRRRRY trim - not super absorbant but VERY trim. (And I've never had one leak - just get TOTALLY soaked inside).

I'm surprised - I was thinking the OP meant the other way - surprised that all CDing moms don't have HBs - but that does surprise me - I can't see being a HB crunchy mama and not CDing.

[MamaMonica]

Yeah- what I meant was that some moms who have thier babies at home choose to use disposables. I know its a choice... I just was surprised, thinking I'd have someone to talk cds with. I sort of assumed that if you hb'ed you'd also cd- in general, I know there are specific reasons you couldn't in more rare cases.

[Carolinamidwife]

Yes, this would have surprised me too before I started attending births. Only 1 single client during my whole apprenticeship has used cloth diapers! Although, I have also learned that people don't always choose homebirth for "natural" reasons anyway.

Amy

[BigBelly03]

I used to notice this at LLL meetings all the time, there were only a few of us that used cloth....
my former midwife was a huge supporter of cloth though--she would always tell her HB mamas-to-be that cloth diapering was best, just like breast is best, not to vax and not to circ...

[mamangazelle]

My cousin had her two last babies at home, was strong about breastfeeding and is an homeopath (is that how it's called in english) and used sposies. Even worst, when I was babysitting, she told me to change them only if they were poopy
I know she wasn't rich at that time, and maybe she didn't know about cd, so maybe I shouldn't blame her...

[CyndyRR327]

I cloth diaper, but wouldn't have a homebirth, kinda odd to some I'm sure, but there are a couple of reasons. 1. I'm diabetic and would need a c-sec. like I had before (we grow huge babies, hehe) and 2. Although I love the idea of hb, the risks just seem to high to me, what if something, anything, went wrong????

Anyway, just $.02 from someone who's backwards, LOL

[Ms.Doula]

DITTO Debbie! (BigBelly03)

I STILL notice this at LLL meetings all the time, there is ONE other cd momma I have seen there! (and she posts here!!- HI GayleForce!) Though a few of the leaders/helpers recommend em to new mommas!

And MY former midwife was a huge supporter of cloth though--she would always tell her HB mamas-to-be that cloth diapering was best, just like breast is best, not to vax and not to circ... and to eat natural whole foods.

[SarahGuinn]

Originally posted by Sheena
Although, I have also learned that people don't always choose homebirth for "natural" reasons anyway.

Amy

Interesting! What are some of the other reasons you've come across? I'd always assumed that it's always for natural reasons with everyone.

[pb_and_j]

That is suprising! However, I have been pleasantly suprised at all my LLL meetings to discover that almost everyone uses cloth.

[baileysmommy]

I have encountered the same thing especially at LLL. I have a friend who lives naturaly, lotus/home birth, vegetarian, bf, her brother is a chiropracter/Reiki Master. She uses sposies. She is considering switching though. I have loaned her some CPFs to give it a try.

I always figured that if you had a hb you would probably cd. But you might cd w/out having a hb. There are many reasons some people don't have hb such as insurance, medical reasons, fear, ect.

[MamaMonica]

Yeah- I was in no way thinking everyone should have a home birth. Maybe I worded that wrong ... I have been known to do that LOL

I have a LLL leader friend who used disposables as well. She's in the Midwest. I wonder if LLL members in certain parts of the country are more likely to CD.

[Jachut]

I've noticed it too - but then I think disposables are just so "out there" these days that people dont even realise the alternatives. Like when you go into Target here, there's only one or two packages of terry squares. There's never any covers, they're all just pulled off the hangers and out of thepackages and you cant find the size you want and although the supermarket has hundreds of snappi's there's never any near the nappies in target.

So if you wanted to do cloth here, if you hadnt discovered the wonderful world of the internet, you wouldnt have a hope basically. And like I said the other day, I heard through a company here that makes great covers that the big retailers are actively discouraging people from buying cloth by making it as difficult as possible.

When you think of enormous terry squares, pins, plastic pants and wet pails, even the most "natural" parents are prone to choose disposables.

[pb_and_j]

Originally posted by MamaMonica
I have a LLL leader friend who used disposables as well. She's in the Midwest. I wonder if LLL members in certain parts of the country are more likely to CD.

I am completely amazed at how more "crunchy" Michigan was than where I live in California now. There were a lot of ppl who used cd's there! Lots of midwives, LLL meetings, etc.

I also think that a lot more ppl use cloth than we think. Yes there are actually ppl who use cloth diapers and don't go around singing the praises of cd's. I have known several ppl who used cloth, but I didn't find out until I had known them for a while.

[MamaMonica]

Originally posted by Jachut
When you think of enormous terry squares, pins, plastic pants and wet pails, even the most "natural" parents are prone to choose disposables.

Yes- that makes sense. I would be intimidated by the wet pail for sure.

Julie- two guys in my dhs carpools cd'ed their kids-- with pins and prefolds to save money. It is true you don't always hear about it right away.

[crayon]

I am completely amazed at how more "crunchy" Michigan was than where I live in California now. There were a lot of ppl who used cd's there! Lots of midwives, LLL meetings, etc.

Where do you live? I live in Houghton/Hancock and I only know of a few mama's that cloth- but I lived in Ann Arbor and it was real big down there- but no diaper services- I hear they all went out of business 3 years ago. But I was raised in Washigton and it is real crunch there so I could just be looking at it different.

Anyway back to the topic:

IMO it all goes together BF, CD, Co-Sping AP- but I guess that is just for me and my life. I would think that parents who are enviromental woud also worry about all the disposables but I guess not all do- or maybe they only know the bad stories their parents and grandparents tell them and never looked into the huge options out there now. I bet most have never seen a cute fitted! KWIM?

Also the mass production of sposies has but a bad name on cloth and that is how most people view it- when we tell them we use cloth you always here "you are brave" "that is nasty" "are you poor?" Then I tell them some of my dipes are $15 (such the low end) and they freak but then I remind them that a box of pampers are $17 and that last a week or less- My $15 dipe will last for months if not years and for other babies!


I also second that not all people HB because they are natural- for me it was 2 reasons- one, I believe in homebirth, in women birthing natural, peace for newborns, no shots or bright lights and noise, but I also am totally afraid of hospitals- I got an infection from a hospital and could have died- I was on IV meds for 4 1/2 weeks 2 times a day with an hour prep and an hour treatment and an hour clean up--- all because of a nasty hospital-- But when I had my baby I tried so hard to have her at home after 39 hours of labor and at least 35 of my water being broken I went to the hopital- she was born 1 1/2 hours later.
: But even if I was not I would still want to have a baby at home because I am afraid of getting sick at a hopsital.

Okay getting late and I have gone on my So I will step off for now!

[pb_and_j]

Originally posted by crayon
Where do you live? I live in Houghton/Hancock and I only know of a few mama's that cloth- but I lived in Ann Arbor and it was real big down there- but no diaper services- I hear they all went out of business 3 years ago. But I was raised in Washigton and it is real crunch there so I could just be looking at it different.

I lived in the Kalamazoo area. We had a diaper service for my first when he was a baby before we started using our own dipes. As far as I know the one in Kzoo is still in buisness. Experiencing the total non-crunch here makes me homesick. But I have found a good LLL group, and a couple of the mamas who go are MDC mamas!

Ok, back to your regularly scheduled posting, lol.

[mamaBlue]

Its funny. I live in Southern Callifornia. I always thought this was the crunchiest place ever. Well, Oregon is pretty crunchy, too.

My midwife wasn't in the least surprised that I CD. Many of her mamas do. She was even the person who introduced me to Elimination Communication. One of her HB mamas is quite the EC advocate.

Also, now that I am becoming a WAHM, all these people I've known for years say "Oh yeah, I CDed all of my babies" and I never even knew!

[mothergooseofthree]

No one around here CDs. They all think I am crazy. I do know a few who HB, but have never seen anything like my CDs.

I was really suprised by the moms in my Homeschool group. LOTS of them are all about natural living, grinding their own wheat, never eat anything prepackaged, grow their own veggies, limit medications period, no vaxing, etc.......but I have heard many of them say that they only change their babies sposies if they are poopy.

With ds#1, I only changed his sposie about every 4 hours unless he was poopy, but I knew nothing about the chemicals in sposies or about CDS. But, those mommas are all about NATURAL, so it suprises me that they stop at diapers. I was even showing one of the VERY natural mommas my ME Sandys and AFs when Camden was itty bitty. She looked at them and said that she tried prefolds and wraps at one point, but that she did not have the time with 6 kids to mess with the extra laundry. I really do not see that it makes much more laundry for us, but oh well.