Breast Cancer Deception

[FrannieP]

I just got this and wanted to pass it on because I think it contains some very useful information:
Breast Cancer Deception

[Gitti]

Thank you for posting it.

[Panserbjorne]

THANK YOU! This is one of my big issues. I have breast cancer in my family and I have been telling my family for years that it is NOT genetic. You CAN prevent and treat (gasp) naturally. It's great that it's getting out there. I hate that we are made to live in fear. It makes me sick.

[EFmom]

That's one of the larger piles of manure I've encountered lately.

[FrannieP]

Originally Posted by firefaery

I hate that we are made to live in fear. It makes me sick.

Me too.
This writer, Mike Adams wrote another piece recently that I enjoy
called, Why Doctors are Idiots: 150 Years of Disatrous Advice on Children's Health (satire)

It's a satire piece, but I think it has some good reminders.

[CanidFL]

double post sorry

[CanidFL]

Wow thanks for posting that! Very informative. A few years ago I stumbled onto a cancer causing list like the one in this article and I slowly made changes in my life to avoid cancer and be healthier overall as well as save our planet. I quit smoking, changed out all my cleaning/laundry products, eliminated plastic food containers, working on my relationship to reduce stress, cut out artificial sweeteners, stopped dying my hair, stopped dry cleaning, and stopped using nail polish!

I am now working on learning how to make my own soaps, lotions, shampoos, etc. I still have a lot to work on like my diet. We really need to start buying organic and stop eating junk like chips. I must admit though…this is the hardest change of all for me. I’ve been working on it for 3 years and just can’t seem to clean up my diet although it's gotten slightly better.

[BellinghamCrunchie]

I would like to believe what he says, but frankly, I think he's just on a rant.

He says that most cancers can be prevented/cured by getting enough vitamin D. In fact, he suggests all you need to do is get out in the sun more. If this was at all true, areas that had longer days/got more sun should have significantly less rates of cancer (up to 77% less cancer he says!). This is simply not true. In fact, my home town in Texas (Rockwall, Texas) has a slightly higher breast cancer rate than where I currently live (Bellingham, WA). And its not because people stay indoors more in Texas - I had a tan 9 months out of the year on my exposed skin - and I don't get ANY tanning here in Bellingham. 77% less cancer is an INSANE claim not backed by anything.

His ridiculous claim about getting more sun preventing most cancers makes me doubt everything else he has to say, which is too bad, because there might actually be some truth in some of what he says.

[Morganfyre]

Originally Posted by BellinghamCrunchie

I would like to believe what he says, but frankly, I think he's just on a rant.

He says that most cancers can be prevented/cured by getting enough vitamin D. In fact, he suggests all you need to do is get out in the sun more. If this was at all true, areas that had longer days/got more sun should have significantly less rates of cancer (up to 77% less cancer he says!). This is simply not true. In fact, my home town in Texas (Rockwall, Texas) has a slightly higher breast cancer rate than where I currently live (Bellingham, WA). And its not because people stay indoors more in Texas - I had a tan 9 months out of the year on my exposed skin - and I don't get ANY tanning here in Bellingham. 77% less cancer is an INSANE claim not backed by anything.

His ridiculous claim about getting more sun preventing most cancers makes me doubt everything else he has to say, which is too bad, because there might actually be some truth in some of what he says.

I have to agree with you. The percentage number is way too high to be believable. I could see perhaps 10-20% and have it be within the realm of possibility. Plus, you really need to talk to the MEN who have been affected by hereditary breast cancer. No genetic link indeed - hah!

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by firefaery

THANK YOU! This is one of my big issues. I have breast cancer in my family and I have been telling my family for years that it is NOT genetic. You CAN prevent and treat (gasp) naturally. It's great that it's getting out there. I hate that we are made to live in fear. It makes me sick.

I absolutely agree, when it comes to cancer fear kills (not to mention death by chemo, radiation, morphine and all the other crap the medical establishment dishes out). I think it is a crime enormous proportions what is being done to the people in the name of cancer. Cancer is curable, and a few brave doctors have spoken out, some of which have ended up in jail for their trouble. It is also totally preventable. When are we going to say, enough is enough and take back our power over our bodies?

FF I have an awesome book, called Mummy Strong Has a Lump in Her Breast for kids on understanding breast cancer from a GNM standpoint, my kids love it, and the rest of the books in the series. I have used them as part of my homeschool biology/health curriculum for DD.

To the PP, thanks for the link, I can't wait to read the report.

[sunnmama]

I think it is a great reminder that there are many hazards in daily life, and a lot we can do to create a lifestyle that promotes health.

But I think that it also dangerously oversimplifies the issue of cancer.

IME, cancer does not discriminate. I have seen people you would never expect to get cancer (because they live their life closely to what is prescribed in that website) do just that.

All that said, my mother is a 22 year survivor of breast cancer. I am deeply grateful to her oncologists and, yes, her chemotherapy. If it matters, I was raised on sprouts and Shaklee (back in the day) and good old-fashioned sunshine. My mom shopped health food stores before it was the trendy thing to do, lol. She didn't live a perfectly healthy life, and she has made some food changes since her diagnosis, but she wasn't the person you would expect to be diagnosed with breast cancer at 41.

[EFmom]

Originally Posted by sunnmama

But I think that it also dangerously oversimplifies the issue of cancer.

IME, cancer does not discriminate. I have seen people you would never expect to get cancer (because they live their life closely to what is prescribed in that website) do just that.

Exactly. I've met too many natural living breast cancer survivors to believe that for a minute. There are both genetic and environmental components to cancer risk.

What it also lacks are data, methodology, references and critical analysis. It is lunatic ranting.

[Mirzam]

The point I think that people don't get is, you can have an healthy lifestyle and still get cancer because the disease is intiated by psycho-biological causes. We are not able to produce illness unless there is an emotional trigger, yes we might have the breast cancer gene, but it isn't going to do anything if there is no stimulating occurance. Breast cancer, for example is triggered by a separation conflict, for example, a partner, mother, child is "torn away from by breasts" or "has torn away from me". It can be also be triggered by worry, a dispute or a "nest conflict".

We are more than just our physical bodies, health is just as dependent on emotions, mind, soul and spirit as it is about the strength of our immune system. This is the problem with orthodox, so-called scientific medicine, it dismisses all but the physical, it reduces the body to a machine and fights symptoms, so it never addresses the true cause of disease which always begins on the non-physcial level. It can cut something out, it can medicate, it can kill bacteria or viruses, but it can't heal the soul.

[sunnmama]

Originally Posted by uccomama

The point I think that people don't get is, you can have an healthy lifestyle and still get cancer because the disease is intiated by psycho-biological causes. We are not able to produce illness unless there is an emotional trigger, yes we might have the breast cancer gene, but it isn't going to do anything if there is no stimulating occurance. Breast cancer, for example is triggered by a separation conflict, for example, a partner, mother, child is "torn away from by breasts" or "has torn away from me". It can be also be triggered by worry, a dispute or a "nest conflict".

We are more than just our physical bodies, health is just as dependent on emotions, mind, soul and spirit as it is about the strength of our immune system. This is the problem with orthodox, so-called scientific medicine, it dismisses all but the physical, it reduces the body to a machine and fights symptoms, so it never addresses the true cause of disease which always begins on the non-physcial level. It can cut something out, it can medicate, it can kill bacteria or viruses, but it can't heal the soul.

Even if this is true (and my own mother can point to a stress in her life that she believes triggered her breast cancer), what does this mean in reality? Real people have stress, worries, and so on. Yes, we can all strive to handle them in healthier ways, but life will always involve stress. To suggest otherwise seems like a utopian fantasy.

And, I agree that the medical model addresses only the physical. But a patient can (and usually will!) take a more holistic approach. A patient might trust the doctors to handle the physical, but then go to her community or her faith to heal her soul. I think most doctors--especially oncologists, who have seen the whole range of healing and dying--acknowledge the role of the soul in healing. Why wouldn't they?

[EFmom]

Originally Posted by sunnmama

And, I agree that the medical model addresses only the physical. But a patient can (and usually will!) take a more holistic approach. A patient might trust the doctors to handle the physical, but then go to her community or her faith to heal her soul. I think most doctors--especially oncologists, who have seen the whole range of healing and dying--acknowledge the role of the soul in healing. Why wouldn't they?

Mine certainly didn't. He's a fairly spiritual guy. I, however, am not particularly spiritual at all.

And the thought that my breast cancer was caused by "separation conflict" is, quite frankly, hilarious. The data to support that conclusion would be????

[North_Of_60]

Originally Posted by EFmom

That's one of the larger piles of manure I've encountered lately.

Originally Posted by EFmom

What it also lacks are data, methodology, references and critical analysis. It is lunatic ranting.

I agree. Manure is an under statement.

[sunnmama]

Originally Posted by EFmom

Mine certainly didn't. He's a fairly spiritual guy. I, however, am not particularly spiritual at all.

And the thought that my breast cancer was caused by "separation conflict" is, quite frankly, hilarious. The data to support that conclusion would be????

To be clear, I meant that a physician might personally acknowledge the role of the soul (loose meaning here) in healing--not professionally. I just don't see any inherent conflict between being a physician and acknowledging the mind-body connection.

And ITA with your second statement.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by sunnmama

Even if this is true (and my own mother can point to a stress in her life that she believes triggered her breast cancer), what does this mean in reality? Real people have stress, worries, and so on. Yes, we can all strive to handle them in healthier ways, but life will always involve stress. To suggest otherwise seems like a utopian fantasy.

And, I agree that the medical model addresses only the physical. But a patient can (and usually will!) take a more holistic approach. A patient might trust the doctors to handle the physical, but then go to her community or her faith to heal her soul. I think most doctors--especially oncologists, who have seen the whole range of healing and dying--acknowledge the role of the soul in healing. Why wouldn't they?

Noone is suggesting otherwise. The point is to process and release the trauma (different than stress BTW) and not integrate it. It's what you store in your body and supress that leads to problems.

My doc handles all aspects of healing....but then again I wouldn't be caught dead in an allopaths office. My doc, while an MD (surgeon) holds his license for privileges only. He is a homeopath and practices as such. As a rule this modality addresses not only the physical, but the spiritual as well. It is well known and acknowledged that they are inseparable. I wouldn't use a doc that didn't believe that. It is impossible to have a fragmented approach and achieve true healing.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by EFmom

Mine certainly didn't. He's a fairly spiritual guy. I, however, am not particularly spiritual at all.

And the thought that my breast cancer was caused by "separation conflict" is, quite frankly, hilarious. The data to support that conclusion would be????

It's not exactly news that our emotions are what most effect our health. There are many well known people that don't believe you can heal physically without healing emotionally/spiritually.

[EFmom]

Originally Posted by firefaery

It's not exactly news that our emotions are what most effect our health. There are many well known people that don't believe you can heal physically without healing emotionally/spiritually.

There are well known people who believe in all sorts of things. That doesn't make them true and it's not evidence.