"soulja boy" - Page 2

[smillerhouse]

I agree with a lot of what has been said. A major objection I have is the obectification of women and the general glorification with being a passive victim and a rich celebrity without the day to day reality of working.
I try not to react while giving my teens many op to live a REAL life. To me, any screen:music,video,computer, TV is largely fansty. This is not bad, if it is in balnce.
Like, today my daugther, nearly 15 has voice lessons. This weekend she has a volleyball tournament. She will help with shopping. When we are out of town we will go to Whole Foods , a history center and a deli like they do not have around here. She is going to a club Sunday geared to the teen indie scene.
I want her to live and particpate in all kinds of life. The life depicted on popular culture is one small aspect and while intruiging, I feel it needs to be balnced with man
y other sorts of living.

I really try to avoid power struggles plus see that she loves the beat,etc.


Sallie

[Eben'sMama]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

I caught a little bit of VH1s 100 Best Songs of the 80s last night. Anyone else see that? Def Leppard's Poor Some Sugar on Me. If that isn't sexual innuendo, I don't know what is. I did know the song was about sex when I was a teen and listening to it but I'm not sure if I knew exactly what it all meant. Anyway, I think I turned out all right in spite of listening to that dirty, filthy rock and roll music.

That's so funny! When DH and I first started seeing each other, one day while we were in the car and that song came on the radio. He said, "You know, it never occurred to me before, I don't think this song is actually about sugar."

[stayinghome]

Grease Lightening had those lyrics??!! I totally missed that too. And the sugar song- "i'm hot sticky sweet from my head to my feet..." yeah, that's sexual in nature.

I don't have too many issues with lyrics and my teen. Now i will ask her to turn off the videos or music if her younger sisters are around. But i think my teen is old enough to handle it.

[UnschoolnMa]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

Yep, that's my point. We don't give teens enough credit for being able to separate music, art, fantasy, video games, whatever, from real life. I watched Tom & Jerry when I was a very young child. It never even crossed my mind that it was okay or harmless to smash someone over the head with a frying pan. If we're open and honest with our teens and children and talk to them about our values and model what we consider decent or appropriate behavior, they'll get it.

This is our approach.

[chiromamma]

OK I will expose just how old and in the way I am. I'm pretty sure I know what supersoak means but can someone come out and tell me what superman means? I learned that dance and everything.

[keriberry]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=superman

[funkygranolamama]

Originally Posted by keriberry

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=superman

so degrading...

[lindberg99]

The video to this song seems pretty innocuous to me though and not degrading to anyone. It just seems to be people dancing. Maybe he just puts in the superman and supersoak stuff to draw more attention to the song because I'm betting people are talking about it a lot more than if it was "tamer" lyrics. And for kids, I bet that gives it the lure of the forbidden.

[funkygranolamama]

Originally Posted by lindberg99

The video to this song seems pretty innocuous to me though and not degrading to anyone. It just seems to be people dancing. Maybe he just puts in the superman and supersoak stuff to draw more attention to the song because I'm betting people are talking about it a lot more than if it was "tamer" lyrics. And for kids, I bet that gives it the lure of the forbidden.

yeah probably. my dd and her friend thought they were just different dances, like doing the "superman" the same way someone would do the "cabbage patch" (man I'm old). I haven't seen the video. Maybe I'll youtube it in a bit. I wasn't bothered by the song at all until I heard what the meaning of those words were. It probably affects me a little differently being an abuse victim, too.
It's triggering for me and blows my mind that people would be joyfully dancing to something like that.

[Marsupialmom]

In one article he denies that was what it meant and was trying to get people to look at his new song. It could have been a lie but at the same time he is 17ish and it could have been something someone else wrote and he didn't know what it meant.

[Irishmommy]

Dd loved that song, loved the dance. I checked out the lyrics, we had a talk about them, and I left it up to her. I haven't seen her play it or dance to it since. But it was her choice.

[lindberg99]

If you really want to hear the words, watch this video of a guy reading the lyrics. http://youtube.com/watch?v=jtT3SP1D_SY

[chiromamma]

Originally Posted by keriberry

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=superman

Who thinks up this stuff? So weird to have a term for such a ridiculous act.

[UnschoolnMa]

Ahh slang is such a bizarre thing, isn't it?

Dd and I just talked about this as I was reading it actually. She read the definition ages ago and thought it was really gross and disrespectful. She think's it's interesting that on his Wiki page it says that he's interested in avoiding the "negative and violent themes" that he so often sees in rap music. Dd said "Okay, so calling women 'ho's' is what exactly?"

She's still pretty good at the dance though.

[kerikadi]

I don't think kids pay much attention to the lyrics. Most of them don't know the words let alone what they mean.

I know as an adult I look back at some of the music I listened to and am surprised they played it on the radio. Little Red Corvette anyone?

[Arduinna]

I don't know, as someone who sang the lyrics to afternoon delight as little kid along with tons of other sexually referenced songs I don't see the big deal. As is clear from your post they don't get the reference anyway. Just like how at 10 or whatever I was clueless what afternoon delight was

[funkygranolamama]

Originally Posted by Arduinna

I don't know, as someone who sang the lyrics to afternoon delight as little kid along with tons of other sexually referenced songs I don't see the big deal. As is clear from your post they don't get the reference anyway. Just like how at 10 or whatever I was clueless what afternoon delight was

true

[moondiapers]

Originally Posted by Arduinna

I don't know, as someone who sang the lyrics to afternoon delight as little kid along with tons of other sexually referenced songs I don't see the big deal. As is clear from your post they don't get the reference anyway. Just like how at 10 or whatever I was clueless what afternoon delight was

Afternoon delight isn't about doing things to a "Ho" while she's asleep is it?

[lindberg99]

Originally Posted by moondiapers

Afternoon delight isn't about doing things to a "Ho" while she's asleep is it?

Yeah, I think there's a big difference about some guy singing how he and his partner are going to have some "afternoon delight" (which really could be anything from hugging to sex, depending on how you think right?) and some 17 yo singing about how he's going to superman or supersoak his "ho."

My DD is 9 and not into this music at all but if she ever does get into it, I'm going to take the approach of some of the previous posters and talk about it with her but then let her decide if she wants to listen to it or not.

What is this guy's other music like? I've only heard "Soulja Girl", which doesn't seem bad to me, of course I've never really listened that closely to the lyrics.

[Arduinna]

Well it was an example, I could probably dig up something more offensive to you if I wanted. Doesn't change the fact that if they don't understand the slang and what the reference is then it doesn't matter TO ME.