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post #41 of 71
They gross me out and I find them depressing and sad on a number of levels. I'd like to say I'm not judgmental about those moms but that would be a huge, horrible lie. Poor little girls...
post #42 of 71
I honestly think that the parents have something mentally wrong with them, I watched Toddlers in Tiaras the other day and seriously thought I was going to puke.

It just all so gross to me(and completely bizarro).
post #43 of 71
The whole beauty pageant contest needs to be abolished. But as far as children doing this... I agree that it's not a good message to be sending our children.

-Kolleen
post #44 of 71
I laugh when the pageant moms of the documentaries say that it's just a hobby or that they'll use the cash they win for college money lol

Pageants are hard work if you want to win. And what college money? you didn't even win enough for what you spend, you usually invest the money for new clothes
The best prices where the ones that weren't cash.

And by the way i'm not trying to defend pageants in any way, i'm just saying I had a lot of fun doing them. I wasn't able to go outside and get dirty all the time but I enjoyed them.
post #45 of 71
Ok, can I admit that I just watched the youtube links? the first several were really shocking and horribly sad...something about the little girl reminded me so much of my three year old boy, and I can't imagine yelling at and drilling him over and over and over like that...she looked like such a baby esp in the first few, and she just couldn't get it right according to her mom, and her eyes just looked SO SAD (they still did in the last vid).
Then I googled/wiki'd them/her and sadder still.
post #46 of 71
I'm usually upset way before the swimsuit part. :
post #47 of 71
Beauty pageants in general don't bother me for children if they are geared more towards technique and inner beauty - and if its something the CHILD really really wants to participate in - however I do not condone beauty pageants for children that do the make up. And the bathing suit thing is APPAULING. Generally though, the do involve make up, bathing suits, sexualzation, and parents pushing their children - all things of which I don't approve. I'm just not close minded to it completely though - if there is one out there that can take a different approach and my daughter really really wanted to do it I would support her in it to her own comfort level only, as I would with any extra curricular she wanted to particpate in - given we can afford it and it didnt go against family values (I wouldnt let her participate in a pageant like most of the ones out there... I also am not sure ones I would approve of even exist, but im speaking hypothetically)
post #48 of 71
I just watched the first two parts of the "Living Dolls" link. Swimsuits are nothing. Those little girls (5 or so) are doing freaking stripteases. What is up with dance numbers for kids that age that include whipping open your jacket to reveal your little bikini-style top, and then walking around on stage with it slung over your shoulder like a stripper? Why would anyone want their little girl up on stage doing a routine like that?

The mom in those two clips scares me. I don't think she's rational, and that little girl is so sad looking.

ETA: Part three seems to have been removed from youtube.
post #49 of 71
Sis and I just watched "Living Dolls" on youtube (yes, section 3 has been removed but none of the rest... I don't know why.)

We then found one called "Little Beauties" just as disturbing if not more IMO.

Yuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK0K_...eature=related
That is part 1.
post #50 of 71
Yes, very much! I can't let my girl mature very fast. She's a child and I want her to act and dress like a child. I think these contests are ruining the little girls' psychology. No wonder we have a lot of teenage pregnancies today.
post #51 of 71
I agree with the pageants, but I have to tell you -- at a certain point in learning to use the potty, two piece swim suits were an absolute necessity for us, and our tankini choices were limited. It was all about practicality.
post #52 of 71
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Originally Posted by allegra View Post
Beauty pageants for young kids make me angry, period. They teach little girls that they have to be good-looking and all tarted-up for people to value them. It's disgusting.
ITA. I keep thinking what's going to happen to those girls the first time someone doesn't think they're pretty? They already have been taught that is their only value, their looks.
post #53 of 71
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Originally Posted by harleyhalfmoon View Post
We're currently looking into it.



My first thought on reading this thread.
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Originally Posted by mtiger View Post
Be aware that community theater is a HUGE time commitment. And no, the kids don't get cut any slack on the hours.
It can be a big time commitment, but usually only for a few weeks, if you do a summer show. I did theatre starting at age five and loved it.
post #54 of 71
I led a protest of my university's "scholarship pageant" many years ago. We had to explain to numerous parents of contestants that we were protesting the event, not their daughters. The pageant organizers insisted that the bathing suit portion was a measure of physical fitness. Um, right. Wouldn't a treadmill competition be better for that? My point...One of the fathers told us that his daughter was an engineering student, very smart, and was doing this for the scholarship money. He had an aha moment when asked what he would think if his son paraded on stage in a speedo for scholarship money. We award women for conforming to ideals. Regardless of how smart a woman may be, her appearance is still what she is largely valued for.

Child pageant are creepy and gross. The pageant industry is wrong for so many reasons. They promote the idea that other women are competition and they reinforce our society's view of women and girls as sexual objects, rather than human beings.

My closest pageant experiences have been as a dance instructor at a studio that did a lot of dance competitions. That is another industry that has gotten crazy. The stage moms, age-inappropriate costumes and age-inappropriate dance routines I saw were really disturbing. Unfortunately, the glitzy, gaudy and just totally inappropriate were frequently rewarded with high scores. My students never had bellies showing, weren't in costumes that were more appropriately paired with a pole, performed to songs that did not have suggestive or vulgar lyrics and never shook their fannies at the judges. Sometimes we were rewarded for our efforts, sometimes not, but I always walked away with a clear conscience.

Anyway, back to the pageants. My mom pleaded with me to do our high school's pageant. She was convinced that I would win it. Who knows, maybe I would have. I refused on the grounds that it was too similar to a dog show. Besides, it would have ruined my punk cred!
post #55 of 71
It's creepy, gross, heartbreaking. I can't comprehend why you'd do this to your child.

I have a friend who's 3 year old (yes, THREE) is a competative cheerleader. Their uniforms are the skankiest things I've ever seen, tiny short skirts, bare tummies. It's so gross to me.
post #56 of 71
its not the bathing suits that irratate me...

it's everyone around those little girls telling them that to be the most beautiful or even be a contender with a tiny chance they have to have:

an expensive set of "flippers" (fake teeth that fit over their own)
a spray tan
airbrushed makeup
hair extensions
fake eyelashes
and tape or other tricks to "fix" flaws or create correct curves

I watched a show where the mother had head shots of her tiny (under 6) daughter done for her portfolio. When she reieved the photos back her daughter seemed to love the pictures however her mother TOLD the LITTLE GIRL that she needed to pay big bucks to now get a professional to touch up the photos. She explained to the girl that her eyes needed to look more bright and blue, her skin needed to look more smooth and clear, and her lips were not full enough... and on and on and on. That poor little girl. I can't imagine the body hangups shes going to have by age 10.
post #57 of 71
It makes me so sad! I grew up in a house always being told that I was ugly or fat... I remember being told that some woman had beauty and some had brains and I had the brains. I still get told that DH would never stay with me if it was for my beauty since Im not attractive at all and better not get fat otherwise he would leave me for another woman. I have a lot of body image problems because of it.
I would never let my child be in one of those pagents and it makes me sick to my stomach to see those precious babies being dressed up and taught to act like hookers.
post #58 of 71
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Originally Posted by demeter9 View Post
the whole thing grosses me out.
ita!
post #59 of 71
everything changes, including pageantry.
compare:
JonBenet Ramsey circa 1996
she participated in glitz pageants

glitz pageants of today

see the difference???

some people think that all of us turn out to be hookers:
maybe some do. i dont care if some people think that im not pretty, i dont give a crap... i dont feel the most gorgeous creature of the planet.
post #60 of 71
Wow - the girl in that first clip actually has a missing tooth. I don't think the parents let that happen, anymore.

Honestly, Aleo...if you enjoyed pageants, I'm glad. I just find the whole idea of pageants kind of stomach-turning, even for adults. For kids...just so gross to me.
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